The voice against injustice at I-F!!Mod note Pg34&36 - Page 19

Originally posted by: .SilentPrincess

I really have nothing much to say.. I didn't want to join the discussion, but certain things are getting to me. And I only have one question.. So if we ignore the first part of your comment..and concentrate on the second half.. i.e the current situation.

@Bold... You stated above that now members will "obviously" feel pressurized to vote for Sano's banner, because she's one of the moderators. What I want to know is why? I thought banner contest were creative contest, to make the forum a bit active..and bring change.. But your post obviously says something else.. so if I had voted for banner 2/3/4 instead of 1 I would have been banned from HD forum.. cause I did the biggest crime of not voting forher banner? really.. its childish to think like this. Members votes on the banner they like, not on basis of who made it. Why you say something like this..is something I want to know.

Originally posted by: Walden

Maybe its just me. But once I know the names of the banner maker (especially since I know many of these people), I can't remain fair and unbiased. Why do the mods want me to make a biased selection? 😳

Originally posted by: Walden

Civil disobedience...Heck ya! Haha Henry David Thoreau would be proud (actually he would most likely turn over in his grave seeing his principles being used to fight an unfair banner contest on India forums😆...but that's okay...the end consequence here may be trivial but the cause is no less important!!)

Appu, you pretty much said what I wanted to say...I'll probably just be rephrasing some things here...Few points I'd like to make.

- In the thread announcing the winner, the mod said that this was the winner chosen by the forum when that was clearly not the case. The winner had been solely chosen by the DT members who voted on all the entries. The claim that the forum had voted for the winner was clearly a misrepresentation of the truth.

- When the fairness of the selection process was questioned, the mods told us that because of cheating in the original voting round, the 4 banners with the most votes were put to another vote thru the DT section. This was again false on 2 levels. First because the screenshot clearly showed that the DT members voted on all the banners, not just the top 4. Secondly, if there was so much cheating in the original vote, how could the top 4 banners be selected in a fair manner (from what the mods said, the cheating was not just limited to MID's, it also involved group voting, plotting, etc)- so clearly n these circumstances, how can we expect the top 4 to be selected fairly. Obviously this is all moot at this point because we all know that there were never really top 4 from the initial voting round and that was another misrepresentaion of the truth.

- My question is if everything was done fair and square and in accordance with the rules of IF, then why did the truth and the whole truth take so long to come out??? It was only after the mods were questioned repeatedly by us, that little bits of the truth slowly started tricking out.

- Again, if the mods are so confident that everything was done fairly and in accordance with the rules, why did they agree to this re-vote???

- After looking at these repeated misrepresentations of truth, any rational person would question the legitamacy and integrity of the process!!

Even if we were to ignore all these previous misrepresenations of the truth, lets deal with the current situation: So the mods for some reason (even though they say the original winner was selected fairly) decided to have a re-voting. Now lets look at the unfairness of this new voting thread:

- As it stands now, the voting process has been compromised becauses members are aware of the identity of one of the banner creators. And this creator is a mod of the forum. Obviously people will now feel pressurized to vote for the banner that has been created by the mod! This is no longer a level playing field and certain banner(s) now have an unfair advantage towards winning. This is wholly unfair to all the other banners in the running that have no fair shot at winning anymore!

I don't know if the mod's will heed our requests for a fair and transparent voting process, but if the current unfair voting process is allowed to stand, the banner which will be selected will not have earned its place to be put up in our forum. It will only be a reminder to many on this forum of a very unfair, unjust, and biased contest.

Appu, is there any way this thread can be made available to all forums in IF? I think there are issues beyond this forum that need to be addressed by the general forum and its management.- the most important being the rule that allows a mod/organizer to participate in the contest that they themselves are running/organizing and overseeing. This is especially bothersome when the voting is taking place in a closed off place like the DT section where there are no checks and balances or oversight. This rule needs to be changed.

Originally posted by: preethimadhavg

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thats the reason why mods wrote all the names of banner makers so that you can be biased based on your fav so that it wonot be injustice😳

and this is news to me that you are pressurized by MODs😲

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Good point Saumya!

Originally posted by: Walden

Good point Saumya!

I didn't even vote in the original contest...I looked at all the entries...thought all of them were great! I could care less which entry won and so I didn't vote. People are completely missing the point here. The point is not about which entry wins, the point it that it should win thru a fair, just, and transparent process.

Originally posted by: _saumya_

FALTU! please mind this,
Appu , the TM, had voted for Sano's entry and the entry no. 24 which is just a morph of entry 23 which is in the second voting round.

Dia I.e. Walden had not voted at all

I had voted forSano's and entry 23 which are in the second round.

Duo there is no reason as to why we would experience sour grapes. Can't help if some people can't look beyond groupism