Double standards- edited topic : note : 15 - Page 10

Originally posted by: Walden

For the sake of discussion, lets just assume that Indira was part of a normalish family (maybe had some younger sisters and brothers- who did not mistreat her) and her father left the family and she had to take over (lets say in her early 20's). And let's assume that she had a older brother (vidith) who was studying abroad, So do you guys think that Indira, being a woman, would be treated differently for taking over the family or would she also be a nobody just like the millions of men who do the same across India everday.

The part that bothers me the most about the show is how they showed Indira waiting for Vidith to return and take over the family responsibilities. As a woman, why aren't we capable of managing the household, even if there is a older or younger brother around?

p.s for those looking for a discussion on Indira's character (including me), we'll do that in another topic some other day:))

Originally posted by: Walden

@bold- yes when I made the post, I was assuming we would ignore most of the exagerated and largely unrealistic things they show (like each one of Indira's family member being evil, Indira not smiling for 8 long years! etc). So like you said Pari, when we ignore most of these unrealistic aspects of the story, what we have left is a young girl who supports her family. And many of us in real life do this! Should we get special recognition for this? I don't think so. I don't think we are doing anything extraordinary to deserve any special recognition.

Originally posted by: light_28

Fangroup or fan or rishi fan or indira fan was nt used by me even once. Nor when i quoted you or surbhi123. It was Surbhi123 who first used the word "fan" in her reply to me. She told me that she is a fan of well knwn actress RP. Dnt knw why ?
Anyways thanks 4 clearing me that why you thot the need to mention rishi in your the first most comment . My issue was only wid that and i got it that u wishd to take rishi as the eg to explain the other side. Thanks.

Originally posted by: Pari117

thanks for the relevant direction D, i will continue writing since its your post, i request only my friends to quote me OR refer me in their post

As you said Indira waited for vidit, i agree to it, why keeping expectations with a family member just because he is a man, did she tried mandira to make independent and earning? yes i agree mandira went for college and she gave the fees, then why after rape incidence there was so much hue and cry for mandira's marriage?? Just because she is a woman? instead it would have been better if indira would have made mandira earning and serving, but she didnt do it? but if i bring vidit back into discussion indira was relying upon vidit, WHY? because he is a MAN, but mandira wasnot, somehow our priorities depends upon gender.

u mentioned a situation if indira would have been in such situation then we would have given her same applause??

you, i and many other ladies in the world are sharing a lot of financial responsibilities of their parents, this doesnt makes us extra ordinary, it would be unfair to award us just for serving our families. its our moral duty, the one who fled away from it is declared escapist and the other who stand for their family gets self respect and self satisfaction, i dont understand why so much of halla for a girl who is just doing what a son would have done??? this is called gender inequality

Originally posted by: tabu31noor

preetiji here u have to believe me rishi is more popular in our forum than indra ppl here love to discusss/analyse/bash/criticise/love adour on rishi chrachter than any other chrachter of show in watever topic name is 😆ultimately he"ll come into discussion😆😆😆rishi u rockkk dear...tummm sabke zahan me chaaa gaye ho...keep rocking like this rishi ⭐️

Originally posted by: Walden

Pari, thanks for bring the discussion back into focus:)

@bold---- you raise some brilliant points. yes, why not Mandira? So out of all the women characters in the show, only 1 (maybe Shweta later on) is capable of working and earning? Why the rush to get her married? Yes, why not have her stand on her feet? Make her get a part-time job to pay for her expenses (like clothes etc) while she's studying and then later on get a job to support herself. Why marry her off and expect her husband to support her? Its as if Indira is saying- you know my bad luck that I had to support my family but I won't make my sister do it?

Very discordant indeed!

Originally posted by: Surbhi123

If it isn't about indira...her surroundings ...her circumstances ...as we are ignoring everything...her working at small stage...the situations she faced...than why are we using her name . And if its not related to our show as circumstances are ignored here...than there is a discussion forum provided by india forums to us for such general discussions . Here is the link...
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_topics.asp?FID=58&submit=GO

and i would like to mention one thing...a person builds out be someone through experiences which the person earn from being in circumstances...facing challenges...taking decisions in situations and we are ignoring such a big thing that indira family hasn't behaved very nicely with her . Than why is the character genuinely dragged in the post .

Originally posted by: Walden

Well, isin't that the point of this forum? Aren't we supposed to take what's shown on screen and draw some real life conclusions about it? In order for it to have some real life applications, the exagerrated and unrealistic bits have to be ignored (I mean what kind of a person doesen't smile for 10 years?- absolutely unrealistic, what kind of a person suvives a stab wound with some dettol?) To me Indira's demonic family and their representation is just as unrealistic and I'm going to ignore that part. Because if we're going to assume that her family was as demonic as they show them to be, then I can only label Indira as a immature woman to continue to fund these demonic people. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. So in order to prevent this topic from becoming an analysis on Indira's character related to her serving her demonic family, I'm trying to keep this discussion about gender stereotypes. If you're not interested in that disucssion, there are plenty of topics on the forum about Indira supporting her demonic family.

Originally posted by: Pari117

there is only one answer for it D, even Indira preferred relying upon shoulder of a Man rather than a Woman, if she would have considered herself a Son of the family she would never had kept so much expectations from vidit.

Do you remember what vidit said to her??

i opted for wrong ways just because u expected too much from me, i kidnapped rishi just to earn money.

This again proves indira kept so much expectations from him since he was a son of family and indira's brother.

haha exactly it sounds as if Indira didnt wanted her sister to take over this. she made mandira marry early, if she would have been great then she would have made mandira self made, not replying upon any other guy, but at last she made her own sister like other ladies who depend upon their husband for evrything.