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Posted: 12 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: tanushee

indu is not a wall between rishi n indira as she dsnt know tht zara is indira...shweta gave birth to hr n usko pal pos ke bda kiya...thr is a bond bet 2 so u cnt blame indu 4 such bhviour...


Aree , what pal pos ke bada kiya... Due to insecurity, Swetha never tried to teach Indu values, to give respect or discipline. Just Swetha, pampered Indu and supported her misbehavior.
What bond and with whom. With Zara/Indira or Swetha. did not get it.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: KajAnj

Sweta raises her and is still doing it that is great👏👏 but how she does it also must be considered.

Indu who's 8-9 years but talks like a girl of 18 years old that's why she pronounced the word chakkar(having an extra marital affair) today.
My POV.Not everyone must see it from my perspective.



Anju very nicely said.

@bold: Agree with you. 😃

Edited by sakshi1 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Well even though I don't like the mature dialogues that are written for this young child, I can understand where she's coming from. From what has been shown so far, it would be abnormal for Indu to NOT hate Rishi and Zara at this point. The adults in her life (who behave like kids) are to blame. Rishi needs to sit down and talk to her and tell her the truth. Shweta needs to find a friend (and not her 8 year old daughter) to share her frustarations about life/husband and stop poisoning Indu's mind regarding her father. Zara should just stay out of it for now. When all the so called "adults" around her grow up and start behaving like mature adults, the kid can finally go back to being a kid.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I would just like to make a point here.Swetha has alwys been bashed left and right in this forum right from the verry beginning and the justification that all the inshi/zashi fans come up with is that Rishi never forced Swetha to do anything.She herself messed up her life.I agree..That was indeed a mistake from the lady..Atleast she wuldnt have got to have got to hear all the dirty comments made abt her in this forum..A woman who has taken care of the child for eight long years,brought her up with all the love that she could give(as the child was lucky enough to get this only from one of the parents) and has taken the responsibility of one bigg family which was no way related to her just a few days back is getting to hear all this..I dont say that swetha was right in pampering Indu and i completely oppose the way Indu behaved today in the episode.But am just not able to get how people can point fingers to the person who has selflessly done everything that she could do to a child and a family gets to be blasted soo badly and on the other hand the guy who never bothered to look at his own child and who forgot all his responsibilities as a father is not at all questioned in this issue just because his love for his lost wife was soo pure that he could be forgiven for escaping from his responsibilities...Hw can one possibly justify this??? The one who has done evrything ,though maynot be completely in the right way,is treated sooo poorly and the guy who has not done anything is just left without any further queries because he is permitted to do so because of his pure love for his shreematiji...Am no way mocking the true love that is shared between Inshi/Zashi as i myself am a fan of this couple...But that doesnot mean every action of either of them or both of them is justified for me...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: aadk

I would just like to make a point here.Swetha has alwys been bashed left and right in this forum right from the verry beginning and the justification that all the inshi/zashi fans come up with is that Rishi never forced Swetha to do anything.She herself messed up her life.I agree..That was indeed a mistake from the lady..Atleast she wuldnt have got to have got to hear all the dirty comments made abt her in this forum..A woman who has taken care of the child for eight long years,brought her up with all the love that she could give(as the child was lucky enough to get this only from one of the parents) and has taken the responsibility of one bigg family which was no way related to her just a few days back is getting to hear all this..I dont say that swetha was right in pampering Indu and i completely oppose the way Indu behaved today in the episode.But am just not able to get how people can point fingers to the person who has selflessly done everything that she could do to a child and a family gets to be blasted soo badly and on the other hand the guy who never bothered to look at his own child and who forgot all his responsibilities as a father is not at all questioned in this issue just because his love for his lost wife was soo pure that he could be forgiven for escaping from his responsibilities...Hw can one possibly justify this??? The one who has done evrything ,though maynot be completely in the right way,is treated sooo poorly and the guy who has not done anything is just left without any further queries because he is permitted to do so because of his pure love for his shreematiji...Am no way mocking the true love that is shared between Inshi/Zashi as i myself am a fan of this couple...But that doesnot mean every action of either of them or both of them is justified for me...


aadk. you brought up some great points. I would also love put my 2 cents opinion on this.

Indu : Starting of the first few episodes, when Indu did some mischief on some couple and those couples came to home to let their parents know about it , at that time Rishi was very angry with Indu and asked Indu to apologise them. But she did not. At this moment, if Swetha supported that point and asked Indu to tell sorry to those people then Indu might have learnt the lesson. children always tends to love those people who always favor them. That is kids habit.

One more thing, when Indu was escaped and went to mumbai, even after coming back, as mom she must have scolded or advised her for this bad choice, no she said she is not angry with her, what does kid get from this info: My mom will never scold, she is very good, and what ever I am doing is ok to my mom.

Recent one was: When Indu said that she hit Zara and will hit her again, she must have advised indu at that moment only. That is signal Indu got from Swetha. She can hurt or talk back to elders.

Swetha, due to her insecurity, she failed to make a good choice for Indu.

Pampering is ok but at the same time their has to drawn thin line to discipline and teach values for kid. That was missing.

Edited by Anu_1 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Children are always high light of the show. They are fun and much stress Buster for most of us if the children behave thier age and do the Nautanki they suppose to do. I love Indu when she behaves like8 yrs old. I love her when she is with Rishi and Zara in same frame.
Hate is the strong word to use for this child . She is victim of circumstance and poor writting for8 yr old. They need to stop writting such a long and age inappropriate dialogs for such cute child actress.some times she looks like she has hard time with them and finds difficulty to say them because Shruti does not understand them .
. Her mother is very possessive of her. Uses her for her own gain. Father is not successful of disciplining her and looks like he has given up in frustration and just waiting and depending on her real mother to come in the picture . Her behavior is very hard to take . Many times I want to discipline her.
She is not wall between Zara and Rishi but she is bridge between them . They both love her and is very obvious . Sweta needs to stop using her and as Welden said must find friend to download herself . Rishi needs to sit down and explain her but at this time she will never sit with Rishi and will continue to insult him ,which is extremely hard to digest!!
We knew, this was coming and we should have been ready for it. Another HD female character going down in my book. They need to show one female in positive way for my sanity .





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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anu_1


aadk. you brought up some great points. I would also love put my 2 cents opinion on this.

Indu : Starting of the first few episodes, when Indu did some mischief on some couple and those couples came to home to let their parents know about it , at that time Rishi was very angry with Indu and asked Indu to apologise them. But she did not. At this moment, if Swetha supported that point and asked Indu to tell sorry to those people then Indu might have learnt the lesson. children always tends to love those people who always favor them. That is kids habit.

One more thing, when Indu was escaped and went to mumbai, even after coming back, as mom she must have scolded or advised her for this bad choice, no she said she is not angry with her, what does kid get from this info: My mom will never scold, she is very good, and what ever I am doing is ok to my mom.

Recent one was: When Indu said that she hit Zara and will hit her again, she must have advised indu at that moment only. That is signal Indu got from Swetha. She can hurt or talk back to elders.

Swetha, due to her insecurity, she failed to make a good choice for Indu.

Pampering is ok but at the same time their has to drawn thin line to discipline and teach values for kid. That was missing.

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Anu.i definitely agree with you that swetha has pamepred Indu a lot...No doubt abt it...I was never justifying dat act of hers..And as far as the first instance that u have mentioned is concerned,i would like to tell that Rishi has never loved Indu any time..His act then was just a reflection of his attitude towars Indu.He scolded her,never made her feel even once as his daughter and taking the reponsibility of a father was never in his list of duties...His act of scolding Indu was right,but the point here is that he has done only that and never ever cared to shower love upon herr..If rishi can be justified for neverr caring for Indu and just scolding her whenevr he felt she was wrong,then on the other hand why cant swetha also be justified for pampering d kid all d time just because the kid was being loved only by one of the parentss..afterall things have to be balanced...This is the point that i want to make.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: aadk

I would just like to make a point here.Swetha has alwys been bashed left and right in this forum right from the verry beginning and the justification that all the inshi/zashi fans come up with is that Rishi never forced Swetha to do anything.She herself messed up her life.I agree..That was indeed a mistake from the lady..Atleast she wuldnt have got to have got to hear all the dirty comments made abt her in this forum..A woman who has taken care of the child for eight long years,brought her up with all the love that she could give(as the child was lucky enough to get this only from one of the parents) and has taken the responsibility of one bigg family which was no way related to her just a few days back is getting to hear all this..I dont say that swetha was right in pampering Indu and i completely oppose the way Indu behaved today in the episode.But am just not able to get how people can point fingers to the person who has selflessly done everything that she could do to a child and a family gets to be blasted soo badly and on the other hand the guy who never bothered to look at his own child and who forgot all his responsibilities as a father is not at all questioned in this issue just because his love for his lost wife was soo pure that he could be forgiven for escaping from his responsibilities...Hw can one possibly justify this??? The one who has done evrything ,though maynot be completely in the right way,is treated sooo poorly and the guy who has not done anything is just left without any further queries because he is permitted to do so because of his pure love for his shreematiji...Am no way mocking the true love that is shared between Inshi/Zashi as i myself am a fan of this couple...But that doesnot mean every action of either of them or both of them is justified for me...

I completely agree with you about Rishi not being a father figure to Indu at all for those 8 years (at least from what they have shown us). While I can understand his grief, I expected him to rise above everything (including Shweta's presence) to make Indu his only priority. What I don't agree with is the claim that Shweta's actions have been selfless. I think quite the opposite is true. She has stayed in SN and taken care of Indu for these 8 years for very selfish reasons (her longing towards Rishi, her desire to have a family/pati/beti, her fear of being alone being the primary ones).
If she were selfless, she would have recognized long ago that the dynamics between her and Rishi were hurting Indu. She would not sit in front of her daughter and cry all the time. She would have recognized the fact that hiding Indira's truth from Indu was adversely affecting Rishi and Indu. If she had been truly selfless and a mother in the true sense, Indu's well being (and I don't mean just giving the kid food and clothing) would have taken precedence over her own issues and insecurities. This actually applies to both Rishi and Shweta But if they were shown to be strong-willed characters, there would be no role for Zara/Indira to come in and fix all that is wrong- thus defeating the one and only purpose of this show.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Walden

I completely agree with you about Rishi not being a father figure to Indu at all for those 8 years (at least from what they have shown us). While I can understand his grief, I expected him to rise above everything (including Shweta's presence) to make Indu his only priority. What I don't agree with is the claim that Shweta's actions have been selfless. I think quite the opposite is true. She has stayed in SN and taken care of Indu for these 8 years for very selfish reasons (her longing towards Rishi, her desire to have a family/pati/beti, her fear of being alone being the primary ones).
If she were selfless, she would have recognized long ago that the dynamics between her and Rishi were hurting Indu. She would not sit in front of her daughter and cry all the time. She would have recognized the fact that hiding Indira's truth from Indu was adversely affecting Rishi and Indu. If she had been truly selfless and a mother in the true sense, Indu's well being (and I don't mean just giving the kid food and clothing) would have taken precedence over her own issues and insecurities. This actually applies to both Rishi and Shweta But if they were shown to be strong-willed characters, there would be no role for Zara/Indira to come in and fix all that is wrong- thus defeating the one and only purpose of this show.

Thanks a lott Walden for your views..Infact i think your views have changed my opinions about shweta to some extent..Yes,as u said,i do feel now that swetha' love for Indu has not been selfless.."Indu's well being (and I don't mean just giving the kid food and clothing) would have taken precedence over her own issues and insecurities."-very well said,..At that point of time when Indira was no more ,here swetha got a husband,a child whm she had given birth,a family and infact everything and much morre than what she had ever thought she would get from life..But at that moment, i agree that her desire to be called the wife of Rishi made her stay in SN ,but more than that it was the motherly bond and the attachment that she had for a child whm she had carried in her womb for all these 9 long months,which made her stay in SN...I somewhere find it difficult to bring this motherly love under the act of selfishness...Her selfishness stemmed from the pure love that she had for the,child whose mother was not in this world anymore and whose father was lost in his own world...And as far as Rishi is concerened,he was soo lost in his world ad when he found a person in swetha who cud bring up his daughter and take care of the family without bothering him,he readily accepted it...Had he stopped Swetha right then and there,i dun think all these problems would have come...Soo,their own insecurities,selfish motives n misunderstandings had an upper hand in rishi and swetha' life compared to their roles as parents..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: aadk

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Anu.i definitely agree with you that swetha has pamepred Indu a lot...No doubt abt it...I was never justifying dat act of hers..And as far as the first instance that u have mentioned is concerned,i would like to tell that Rishi has never loved Indu any time..His act then was just a reflection of his attitude towars Indu.He scolded her,never made her feel even once as his daughter and taking the reponsibility of a father was never in his list of duties...His act of scolding Indu was right,but the point here is that he has done only that and never ever cared to shower love upon herr..If rishi can be justified for neverr caring for Indu and just scolding her whenevr he felt she was wrong,then on the other hand why cant swetha also be justified for pampering d kid all d time just because the kid was being loved only by one of the parentss..afterall things have to be balanced...This is the point that i want to make.



aadk, @bold: I will disagree that point. Love and pamper your child,at same time teach the child values and discipline them.
Already I have wrote in earlier post, that every mother will pamper and love their child but at the same time they teach and correct the child's mistakes,when they do wrong, misbehave and does not show respect to elders. That is mother's duty also. That is missing with Swetha. Due to her insecurity, she is afraid to scold Indu when she makes mistakes.

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