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Originally posted by: jjkg

This is a big failing of Indira in all her personal and professional relationships. And this is one example of what I mean when I posit that Indira's personality has to grow. If she keeps stalling at her present locii, she will unwittingly invite continuous betrayal and disappointment in her life. People and reasons change, but story will remain the same.

Originally posted by: jjkg

Does this qualify as bashing? 😃More importantly, Is there any distinction between lying and bashing?😡

Comments like these really makes one sorry that one even bothers to expend time and effort on this forum.😭 😭We betray our own selves when we comment.

I have not seen a single post that has bashed Indira, or is anti-Indira. Everyone feels her pain, her betrayal, her shock. She is our cherished heroine. But that does not mean Indira is a devi. She is all too human with enormous qualities, accompanied by big failings. Recently, there has been lot of discussion on her character traits and the learning curve she has ahead of her. This is nothing unique to her.

If the makers of this serial tout that they have true to life characters and we all go RAH...RAH...RA, puffing are chests, mighty pleased with ourselves, then it behooves us that we assess the characters as such, and assess the learning they have in front of them. If over 95% of the life of this serial is spent on "woe betide me" Indira, in the final 5%, magically all issues are resolved, bad characters become good and she gets happiness, then this serial is no different than dime a dozen others.

If CVs wants to portray real life like characters, then they should shoulder the responsibility of showing reactions to traumatic events based upon where one's atma is on its growth curve - like it happens is real life. We have low expectations of likes of Sharmas, becuase their souls are really mired in mud, nor do they operate on a higher plane. But Indira is not such an atma. It would be all the more tragic if her soul, her personality keeps stalling at its present position. She will do more harm to her own self, than what anybody has ever done to her.

As my mentor once told me when my life was in deep crisis through no fault of my own, there is slight difference between "bitter" and "better", and that is the letter "I". How I chose to react to the trauma determined how I can out at the end of it.

Regarding Inshi:

When people have been desirous of Indira to not go into her "bitter" mode once the shock has passed, it is not because we are teen worshippers of Inshi.

It is because Rishi has redeemable qualities that are hard to find. He was utterly devoted to her. But his devotion had a poison pill, and that was his culpability in Vidith's accident and his fear of informing Indira before Vidith's complete recovery. And now this poison pill has burst. He has to really take a hard look at himself and grow out of it. Indira has to learn to forgive, not throw baby out with the bath water.

And please note, I am not talking about love here. I am talking about forgiveness, ability to see a person's strengths as well as weaknesses.

Clumping Rishi with likes of Sameer, Diwans and Sharmas

Whether Indira will accept Rishi back into her life is immaterial.

What is germane is the failure by us to distinguish between Rishi and others. Namely his attempt at redemption with atonement and sacrificing a materially cushy life. There has rarely been a great man in history who has not traveled the mistakes, atonement and redemption continuum. But then I maybe living in a different universe than some noted denizens of this forum😭

Rishi is on the mistakes-atonement continuum. Recognizing this does not take away from Indira's genuine's pain or Vidith loosing his life as he knew it.

@bold about the "bitter" and "better": Wonderful! Struck a chord! :-D

@bold about redemption reminded me of these lines:

"Girte hain sheh-sawaar hi maidan-e-jung mein; Woh tifl kya girenge jo ghutno ke bal chalte hain"

Loose translation: In a battlefield, the horse riders are the ones that fall to the ground. Those who are already on their knees cannot really fall.

These lines, IMHO, really apply to Rishi. He has traversed that path and has come a long way from his dissipated past. Right now, am floundering for words to express this properly, but request you not to walk away from posting. Cheers!