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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr

Much much better than the last two days - very sad, but far easier to connect with, thank god!


I'm not sure if this is me, or a general opinion - but I prefer PooBaa knocking sense into Gulaal any day over Vasant.

I really loved that she did it - much needed for Gulaal and best person was PooBa who had maintained that all along and today I loved it when she drilled it into our "Miss akhroat" that 's what I feel like calling Gulaal for her thick skinned , thick shelled approach to Kesar , no matter how much he bangs his head against her...

But I'll move to the other things for now. Nur and I were talking earlier in the day when I said that although the recent series of FBs had been annoying and disappointing in general for how much from the past could have been used and wasn't - but I thought (in retrospection of course) that there was a trend about them.

What a brilliant observation - you are bang on for both Kesar and Gulaal - afterall fantasies are made up of what we dont have in our real lives...especially for Gulaal, I realised after you mentioned , it is this blissful home and hearth and a "husband" is what she had been missing (and also not having a kid, as per her phera FB) ...that is what was most evident in her mind, though in our minds the stronger imprints were of the intensely "romantic" moments with Kesar - he telling her she was wronging the woman in her , that she will have to accept his love one day, that she cud stay back in the house only if she fell in love with him , etc...
and Kesar's strongest need was to be the centre of her world...

that his place in her life, like he used to believe in his innocence a decade ago - has indeed always been one class apart and unique - but just that understanding with almost a drought of emotional/verbal whatever confirmation...

Somewhere he seems to know now that she loves him , but does not , or does not want to, accept..and that's what breaks him even more..and he has no energies left to fight it any more..."mein jaanta hun, par phir bhi tu rakh le" is like I know you love me , but you will need to be reminded of me ..you will not remember me by yourself, I know that..coz you never do, do you.

.I have to add I'm glad when they were making him write a letter, they linked it back to all the others he had written. His line - tujhse apni baat main chitthyon mein hi keh pata hu - is a hit on more than one level. ... he's never really 'delivered' his letters right, has he?! they've always reached her too late, through others...

Beautifully put , this and every word in your post , it is beyond me to respond in writing to everything in your posts , but believe me , in my heart , I am responding to everything that you have written..

and as I sign off , I am left filled with only two things - your heart touching post and Kesar's heartbraking farewell scene - with tears rolling down his eyes, with the choke in his voice , with that forlorn expression that only Neil or Kesar can give ...it tore my heart apart...

jump right in people - second to last thread post, this.

xx
JZee
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Jumping right in JZee , into this storm of emotions that you have created in addition to those existing after the episode...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Oh his sleeping on the floor was heartbreaking... He doesn't do it because he doesn't deserve the bed... he's sticking to his word - is baar Gulaal apni marzi se waapis ayegi ... - he'll only get to 'share' the bed as her equal and a husband, when she's ready and willing - and he's not going to change that rule whether or not someone's watching over him...

The entire hide and seek in that house between them was so fantastic and moving! And Kesar picking up the Thali - I thought he would take it with him as a keepsake... sigh...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@Nur..oh yeah the floor!...that was the house where he spent his last good memories with Gulaal and he would like to spend his last night in the village in the very same place...anything that would make him feel closer to her!...sigh..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01

Oh the humesha bit *sigh* Sach mein...kuch bhi toh humesha nahin rehta...I need to rewatch the last scene again! Fantastic dialogues they had today!

Both NB and MP were fab in the last scene but NB was seriously stupendous...you feel so CONNECTED to Kesar's heartbreak, his pain...and honestly after EVERYTHING, there is this beautiful sweet innocence to his devotion towards Gulaal that NB brings out so well!



Neil is superb , in all aspects , but this is a specially beautiful aspect - his innocence and devotion to Gulaal immediately brings to mind little Kesar and the way he held Gulaal in his little heart...NB manages to get that innocence across...

VJ.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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It's as heartbreaking to read what you have written as when watching the episode. I am numb for now!


"True Love burns the brightest, But the brightest flames leave the deepest scars."
Edited by angel68 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nur - I'm going to be very selfish and a sadist and say I'd would DELIGHT in the idea of Vasant reminding her to 'smile', and Gulaal zoning out of Vasant's bhoot into memory of the Kesar confrontation where he told her the same... and then THAT proving to be the kick, if at all! But I think we're going to get a full on GV scene, with no break and lapse into Kesar, except giving her that final push... so yeh.

Dude - he's certainly not as bad as PB... But I do wish he could be as unimportant as her at this point... Perhaps Kesar will never be jealous - but I'm always going to be sour about how he barges his way into this and that :D even his bhoot, lol! Good for Gullu, I'm not Kesar! No but seriously... like we'd discussed, I wish there was another version to a GV moment... maybe Vasant looking over in the end... or maybe Vasant just serving her arguments - like she was always intended to marry twice... I dunno - the 'dialogs' of the ME were exactly what I'd not wanted - so maybe that's my problem... I'll just leave it to Sunday now - today was awesome enough to spend a Saturday over, and have genuine hopes for a Sunday... if today could actually wash out the last two days to this extent - its something to say already!

On that note, Reemz needs to come back he he! I'll tell her she was right and getting RIGHT GK ALWAYS works! No matter what! I should have taken her word, knowing myself :D :D :D
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr

Oh his sleeping on the floor was heartbreaking... He doesn't do it because he doesn't deserve the bed... he's sticking to his word - is baar Gulaal apni marzi se waapis ayegi ... - he'll only get to 'share' the bed as her equal and a husband, when she's ready and willing - and he's not going to change that rule whether or not someone's watching over him...


The entire hide and seek in that house between them was so fantastic and moving! And Kesar picking up the Thali - I thought he would take it with him as a keepsake... sigh...



True, it was heart wrenching to see him sleeping on the floor , as if touching the floor to bring back those same days that he had spent with Gulaal there... and yes, the way he maintained his boundaries even when he was alone...that's how much he loves her and reveres her ,,,

I so wanted him to know she had been there ...

VJ
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Posted: 14 years ago
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nice episode today well executed by actors n well taken by cvs everything is nice n also better than recent previous episodes but everything is nice just mechanically n technically but the connection is missing as usually the show makes us i don't know today i think the soul n connection missing in today's episode i think.even small n simple scene of gk connects so well but today the farewell n heartwrenching scenes n all gk today didn't connect well.didn't make much impact.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr

Nur - I'm going to be very selfish and a sadist and say I'd would DELIGHT in the idea of Vasant reminding her to 'smile', and Gulaal zoning out of Vasant's bhoot into memory of the Kesar confrontation where he told her the same... and then THAT proving to be the kick, if at all! But I think we're going to get a full on GV scene, with no break and lapse into Kesar, except giving her that final push... so yeh.




👏👏👏 Wow that would be lovely and so satisfying ..retaining Vasant for whatever reasons, but giving Kesar his due place that he deserves so much
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr

Oh his sleeping on the floor was heartbreaking... He doesn't do it because he doesn't deserve the bed... he's sticking to his word - is baar Gulaal apni marzi se waapis ayegi ... - he'll only get to 'share' the bed as her equal and a husband, when she's ready and willing - and he's not going to change that rule whether or not someone's watching over him...


The entire hide and seek in that house between them was so fantastic and moving! And Kesar picking up the Thali - I thought he would take it with him as a keepsake... sigh...


Oh... I thought the sleeping on the floor was more out of habit and remembrance of his days in that house with Gulaal. I don't think that it was coz of some guilt in his mind of not deserving the bed... I might be wrong... but, imo, his last night in the village, like Maz said was a repetition of his happy days with Gulaal and him as a couple in that small, yet happy home they made together...

Everything in the episode was so well done... it seemed like it was a completely different director to the last 2 ones... today was just vintage classic Gulaal... amazing dialogues, perfect execution by each actor, and such cinematography... the songs were perfect.. Gulaal and Kesar together in their "home" were perfect.. in their longing and pining for each other.

Gulaal had a perfect home with Kesar for a few days in that toota foota ghar... and they have become her best momories... Like Jzee said, she remembers them as a reminder of her happy days as a couple together... she has sub-consciously accepted Kesar as her husband in that home.. and hence, when she is so heart-broken, she goes back to the place where she found solace and happiness. She recovered from her heart break of feeling responsible for breaking the house, she called home for 10 long years., in that home with Kesar by her side.

She is hale now, yet her heart pines for Kesar.. she knows it, yet does not know how to give him the place he desires in her heart. She has finally accepted in her heart of his love for her. Yet, it will need a push for her to be able to reciprocate it whole-heartily...

Kesar knows her well enough to know that she loves him in her heart, but is still not ready to give him the place in her life, which is wants... when he says that I know that you won't be able to forget me, he knows it so well... he knew yesterday when the family wanted to get Gulaal back, that she may even come back for everyone's happiness... and she might even accept him as a husband... but he wants more... he wants her love, his undying devotion for her to be equally requited... he does not want to settle for anything less...

Jzee I was reading the post title... and remembered this classic end to "Gone with the Wind"... if it wasnt a hindi serial...then it could have ended like Gone... with Scarlett finally realising her feelings for Rhett, when he is going away for good... but, thankfully, we have a happy ending !!!!

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