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Posted: 14 years ago
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Don't know how I missed that.

THIS is exactly what I mean. If you're going to start labelling Gulaal-Kesar's relationship then you will simply lose sight of what these two actually mean to each other.

Gulaal nurtured Kesar for a short while...true! But how does that automatically make them mother-son? If she really saw him as her 'son' then she would never have married him.

You can notice the 'Yashoda' referance but dismiss MB calling Gulaal 'Rukmini'. How can you forget that Kesar was written in Gulaal's destiny since Day 1.?When she came in to the house as Vasant's bride, she rushed in to save Kesar without completing the rituals properly. The ghat-bandhan which ties a husband and wife together was unconsciously put around Kesar's leg while it was still attached to Gulaal.


Regarding the slapping marathon after the confession. My mother actually thought Gulaal was about to hug him and confess! So yeh...I don't understand where anyone can claim any motherly feelings there 😕

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Posted: 14 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: nureat01

Ummm Gulaal's expressions when she slapped Kesar after his confession were "motherly" expressions?? Wow this is really news to me🤔😳

And these E24 etc. ppl hardly ever follow the storylines of shows closely enough to know what they are talking about...a few days back a segment was also talking about a "love triangle" b/w Kesar-Talli-Kunal...and do we see that? Umm I don't think so.

Gulaal has NEVER thought of Kesar as her "son"...if that was the case, the zillion and one other signs of what the K and G relationship would evolve as since the very beginning of the show...none of those signs would be shown.

Gulaal NURTURED Kesar when he was younger, yes she did...but is the only label for nurturing someone equivalent to making them mother-son? A woman nurtures a man in so many ways, in so many roles...these things evolve with time.



ya you have a point
undearstandable the story n eveything. they showed n handled it well kudos to cvs 👏
woman nurting a man is diff, but nurting a child in to a man is diff. did u see both in same way
how can a avg person relate to it. where the values of rels. it's crime,it's child rights exploitation.
as a show it is unique n exceptional no doubt abt it. they took sensitive sub n presented well.
😊

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Posted: 14 years ago
#43
Honestly, if you want to call them mother-son; bhabhi-devar; husband-wife;best friends;lovers...that's fine because what they actually share is above all those labels.

Vasant was Gulaal's husband, PaanBha is Kesar's mother and Talli is a friend of Gulaal and Kesar but what GK are to each other cannot be put behind a relationship tag except for maybe soulmates.
Edited by *Reemz* - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

Don't know how I missed that.


THIS is exactly what I mean. If you're going to start labelling Gulaal-Kesar's relationship then you will simply lose sight of what these two actually mean to each other.

Gulaal nurtured Kesar for a short while...true! But how does that automatically make them mother-son? If she really saw him as her 'son' then she would never have married him.

You can notice the 'Yashoda' referance but dismiss MB calling Gulaal 'Rukmini'. How can you forget that Kesar was written in Gulaal's destiny since Day 1.?When she came in to the house as Vasant's bride, she rushed in to save Kesar without completing the rituals properly. The ghat-bandhan which ties a husband and wife together was unconsciously put around Kesar's leg while it was still attached to Gulaal. Exactly...these were HUGE signs...none bigger than the one where she rushed into the house without completing the ritual of her official entry as a bahu...only and only to save Kesar's life...and no, this was not done out of some kind of "motherly" feeling...it goes so all beyond that...honestly what Kesar and Gulaal mean to each other is on a level beyond this world, this realm...and not to be blasphemous but there is God in that relationship...that's my opinion atleast.

My initial point was that Gulaal as a woman has nurtured Kesar, made him into a better human being in every way she could...and this goes beyond mere labels of "mother" or "wife"...this is what one human being has meant to another...I see it as that and that is above all labels to me.


Regarding the slapping marathon after the confession. My mother actually thought Gulaal was about to hug him and confess! So yeh...I don't understand where anyone can claim any motherly feelings there 😕 LMAO@ your mother's reaction😆




@uniquebie: Yes, that is what I'm saying as well...it's a very sensitive subject and if not treated properly, it can come across as creepy or uncomfortable...but the way this subject was treated in this show actually gives it a PURITY in my opinion.
Edited by nureat01 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sama0023

Thanks for taking out time for giving your suggestions.
1. You think that story should avoid unnecessary loops on the side tracks where people are anxiously waiting for the outcome of the main tracks.
2. Story is showing multiple issues concurrently and one part is the main track which in fact needs more attention than the side tracks.
3. There is jump in the story. e.g. every interaction between Kesar and Gulaal has something different as if the story has jumped 10 paces ahead in the background. The viewers try and figure out what would have happened. In the previous scene and the next scenes there is a lot of gap.. storywise. Viewers need a better flow.
4. Dushy, Raman and other characters have their own separate tracks, which takes the focus away from Gul-Kes. They if need to have a track should be involved with Gul-Kes so that they are always in the focus and their story can proceed on regular pace.

Thanks once again.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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[quote]honestly what Kesar and Gulaal mean to each other is on a level beyond this world, this realm...and not to be blasphemous but there is God in that relationship...that's my opinion atleast. [/quote]

I like how you put that ☺️

I always relate this quote from WH to Gul-Kes:

'Whatever our souls are made of, his and mine are the same'
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@uniquebie: Yes, that is what I'm saying as well...it's a very sensitive subject and if not treated properly, it can come across as creepy or uncomfortable...but the way this subject was treated in this show actually gives it a PURITY in my opinion.


@reemz

ya KG relationship has no labels. they are soulmates. they don't need a relationship.
thats wat gulaal show is about. misconception is that soulmates is used for couples, no it's not.
soulmates connection btwn two souls thats it, eventhough relationship exists or not btwn them.
so they are showing the same too.
gulaal show doesn't target general audience. it doesn't cover as a whole. it's only for set of ppl.
a movie or show targets whole audience then it's become popular.😊

Edited by uniquebie - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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[quote]3. There is jump in the story. e.g. every interaction between Kesar and Gulaal has something different as if the story has jumped 10 paces ahead in the background. The viewers try and figure out what would have happened. In the previous scene and the next scenes there is a lot of gap.. storywise. Viewers need a better flow.[/quote]

What you term as a 'jump' is actually something I would call tight scripting which you rarely witness on television. That's how their scenes are supposed to be written i.e. they take GK's relationship forward. You see this kind of disciplined writing in films maybe but not on the small screen.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Well this is generally true for the audiences, once it comes to family drama, to catch up their sentiments and emotionally involve them. Well movies could be musical, war, comedy, romantic, sci-fi.. so you have a special interest in watching these movies, you don't relate to everyone of them. For a social family drama our indian audience does relate to daily shows thats why they mimic the characters and the fashion shown in the shows. You cannot totally disregard this. Its not a matter between easy or complex its a matter of how well your audience follows it. After all its made for the audiences.
So I understand, Gulaal is only for the people with lots of brain power else they should move on to other shows. 😃 Gulaal and Kesar should play mastermind or sudoku instead of Ludo.
Ab humara kya hoga. 😳

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: SlingShooter

Well this is generally true for the audiences, once it comes to family drama, to catch up their sentiments and emotionally involve them. Well movies could be musical, war, comedy, romantic, sci-fi.. so you have a special interest in watching these movies, you don't relate to everyone of them. For a social family drama our indian audience does relate to daily shows thats why they mimic the characters and the fashion shown in the shows. You cannot totally disregard this. Its not a matter between easy or complex its a matter of how well your audience follows it. After all its made for the audiences.
So I understand, Gulaal is only for the people with lots of brain power else they should move on to other shows. 😃 Gulaal and Kesar should play mastermind or sudoku instead of Ludo.
Ab humara kya hoga. 😳

thanks



In that case, your post as well as the question you've posed is redundant...in order to make something "relate" to the general audience tastes, the essence of what is actually special about this show will be totally lost...so no, we CAN'T help make Gulaal "popular"...since "popularity" is also a relative term in some ways...

EVERY show is made for the audience...but the audience is VARIED...instead of just adapting a show to the whims of such a varied audience, I think a story should be told with heart and conviction and Gulaal has done that fully in my opinion.

I do not agree with the points that there have been "too many tracks" or too much "jumping around" b/w tracks...all of those were needed elements in a MULTI-LAYERED story that has managed to maintain its integrity despite being a daily soap...if that is too tiring for ppl to watch after a hard day at work, fair enough...they can look for other sources of entertainment.

Gulaal deserves it's space on the Indian TV landscape just as much as the audience for the oh so great Saathiya type shows...the question is more about how the PARAMETERS for measuring this so called "popularity" are taken into consideration..if such parameters only measure nonsense like Uttaran, LCL, Saathiya, then obviously those parameters don't work for what Gulaal is...
Edited by nureat01 - 14 years ago

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