I sense Talli trouble... - Page 6

Originally posted by: Lennie

Phulwa is somewhat based on a true story of Phoolen Devi

These things happen in some villages, harsh in a way but it happens and for them its probably natural in some way coz they live in that time/world/life, sometimes we cant look at things in a one set mind, sometimes it need to look from so many angles and such, not everything is black and white

We all know child marriage is wrong and that this show is fictional, but main issue for me is what this show is trying to portray about child marriage.
IMO if G-K do end up being romantically involved, are we to assume that firstly child marriage works, and that secondly and more worriedly that it its ok in certain instances to perform?
Many of us may have younger family members around kesar's age when he was 'married', how many of us hands on our hearts can or will say that if those same family members were in kesar's shoes today we would be perfectly fine with the situation? I'll be honest I would be fuming.
This marriage is illegal, and most societies would condemn such marriages, and again I would say in this instance majority rules.
At the end of the day if G-K romance happens for me it shows that crime pays. Lewd as those men's comments were in the maha epi promo, they had a point G-K romance jodi will eventually enjoy the fruits of a child marriage. Agreed that no child molestation happened nor can now that kesar is older and that gulaal never ever had any such intentions, but the actual fact that he was 'married' is classed as child abuse.
So are cv's trying to portray at the end of the day that gulaal is a show that shows people how to perform child marriage 'correctly'?
Seriously I don't know the meaning to this show. I get that love knows no boundaries, but come on showing that it even can form during child marriage a serious crime, is not giving the show a very good image is it? Nor a good moral.

Originally posted by: suki11

We all know child marriage is wrong and that this show is fictional, but main issue for me is what this show is trying to portray about child marriage.
IMO if G-K do end up being romantically involved, are we to assume that firstly child marriage works, and that secondly and more worriedly that it its ok in certain instances to perform?
Many of us may have younger family members around kesar's age when he was 'married', how many of us hands on our hearts can or will say that if those same family members were in kesar's shoes today we would be perfectly fine with the situation? I'll be honest I would be fuming mad.
This marriage is illegal, and most societies would condemn such marriages, and again I would say in this instance majority rules.
At the end of the day if G-K romance happens for me it shows that crime pays. Lewd as those men's comments were in the maha epi promo, they had a point G-K romance jodi will eventually enjoy the fruits of a child marriage.Agreed that no child molestation happened nor can now that kesar is older and that gulaal never ever had any such intentions, but the actual fact that he was 'married' is classed as child abuse.
So are cv's trying to portray at the end of the day that gulaal is a show that shows people how to perform child marriage correctly?
Seriously I don't know the meaning to this show. I get that love knows no boundaries, but come on showing that it even can form during child marriage a serious crime, is not giving the show a very good image is it? Nor a good moral.

Well then why just look at this show?

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

Well then why just look at this show?

Balika Vadhu was about child marriage, Ekta shows were about having multiple spouses, widows marrying their husband's murderer but then end up falling in love with them, or stories about reincarnation. There are so many strange shows out there.

When you sit down to watch these bizarre stories, you don't think 'Hmmm now what will I learn from this show?'. These serials are for couch potatoes who want a form of escapism. I think they learn enough morals from their parents and close ones.

As far as I can see, the show wasn't made to tell society 'Look this is about child marriage and this is our view on it'. It was meant to be written about two people called Kesar and Gulaal, their bond. There's no point of generalizing them with typical scenarios of an adult-child marriages. You can't always stereotype every relationship under one category. Why not judge each circumstance on their own merit?? Personally, I've seen this show from the POV of two people who share unconditional love for each other, marriage or no marriage.

Well BV is also going to show that the second wife as negative which means Jagya-Anandi will end up together :)

I think more than likely everyone agrees with the following on this forum:-

1) Child marriage is wrong, both morally and legally
2) This show is fictional as are all events in it and on one should use it as basis upon to make life decisions
3) None of us would truly wish to ever see ourselves or ones close to us in either gulaal's or kesar's position today.

Now coming to why I personally watch Indian tv serials. Firstly yes they are a form of escapism to me, as they are to billions worldwide. I'll also admit I rather shallowly like to watch some of the more boring, un-entertaining one's just because I love the Indian fashion, and its away to keep up to date with it.

Coming to what makes a serial appeal to me, good actors with even better chemistry, great script, and amazing sets sure play apart in making a good show, but IMO those are just the outer skin of a show. The substance of the show is crucial, what the show wants us to see/hear, its message to us its audience, is what draws me to it. Do I want to see this story unfold? Do I want to listen to its voice? Those are questions I admit I sadly ask myself. Not initially, but after a few epis yes I do, because I want to know if this show is worth my time.
What's the point in watching something you've heard or seen a million times? What's the point in watching a show that portrays characters or scenarios that you can't relate to? What's the point in a watching a certain show when you know with a click of the remote you can watch something a hellva lot better?

Relating to a character or the situation they are in is important. If you watch a show and spend the whole time scratching your head wondering wth is going on or W*F are the characters doing, you might as well switch off. Agreed most people can't relate to a murder, rapist, or any criminal, but in some instances some shows do a decent job of showing how such a character came to be. So although you won't agree with or be any of those things, you get why some individuals come to be.

Ok coming to this show! Why I watch gulaal, was because I was drawn to gulaal's and vasant's characters. I enjoyed watching their romance blossum, and loved the gulaal/kesar bond alongside kesar/vasant rista. I might not agree with gulaal's decision to 'marry' kesar, but I get why she did it. She in her confused (I'm not ignoring the fact that she was recently bereaved and still grieving) head, perhaps honestly believed that she was doing the right thing.
But the point is she commited a crime. And I can't condone such crimes. Child marriage is classed as child abuse. I don't watch B.V and couldn't care less what that show portrays as an result. But gulaal quite frankly speaking upon 'marrying' kesar commited child abuse. And the whole village, that stood there and allowed and accepted it, are condoning a crime. No one on this forum can escape that fact because that is what it is a fact.
Agreed all love stories aren't convential nor perfect. Perfection is something all of us must strive for, and few will ever achieve it. Again none of us are suddenly going to stalk playgrounds in an attempt to find potential husbands because of watching this show. Nor are we going to view boys/girls kesar's age when he was married as individuals we may one day grow to love as life partners.
But yes, some people who do practise such customs, may well feel justified in doing so, because of this show. Again I'm not saying this likely but chances are it could happen. My point is whether you or I see this as show about child marriage, other people will, and some of those people might practice child marriage, and feel that 'yes we are doing a good thing'.
Furthermore think of the poor children who are suffering (suffered), the abuse of child marriage.What a slap in face this show and others like it are for them. Here they were lamenting their fate, when infact hey, according to this show, what's happening (happened) to them is actually a good thing.
This show is sending a social message and in this case if it chooses to portray child marraige IMO they should do the right thing and show it is wrong. No what ifs or buts, it is plain wrong. Its a crime, and everyone who watches this show realise this. Right now I think their glamourising this concept by showing the beautiful gulaal and hottie neil, having some grand love story. That is not the reality so stop showing it.
Just think if they showed up a screwed up G-K, as an result of such a marriage and just one, just one person changes their minds and prevents such a marriage from happening. Wouldn't that be a good thing? Wouldn't it be better knowing that this happened rather than seeing G-K romancing? And it can happen, yes it most likely won't, but it might.

Sorry I've just realized how long this post is! Sorry If I've offended anyone, that is definitely not my intention!

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

Well BV is also going to show that the second wife as negative which means Jagya-Anandi will end up together :)

I would suggest that you watch the show before leap too because it explains the whole deeyavatu situation very well.

Regarding Gulaal have feelings for Kesar, isn't this why they're showing her supporting Kesar and Talli? Because she doesn't intend to have any romantic feelings for him. She has that emotional tug with him but the romantic tug will come later after seeing how this adult Kesar acts with her.

Anyway, we're not going to agree with this ;) As I said, I am not viewing this as a child marrying an adult, its more about the relationship between two people changing over time. Not all love stories are conventional and not all of them are perfect. Plus serials, especially INDIAN dramas are not to be taken seriously. There was this English soap which showed a relationship between half brother and sister. What do you take from that? Nothing because no-one is suddenly going to condone that kind of relationship JUST because its been shown in a drama.

You even see 20-30 year olds with 60-70 years olds. We frown upon that because its like two generations skipped but its their choice, their life.

I HAVE A GUT FEELING THAT TALLI WILL END UP WITH DUSHYANT.I FEEL GULAAL WILL BE FORCED IN TO RELATIONSHIP WITH KESAR DUE TO SOME CIRCUMSTANCES THEY GET CAUGHT IN AGAINST HER WILL IN THE BEGINNING OF COURSE BUT LATER SHE WILL SUCCUMB TO HIS CHARMS.MAY BE THEY WILL GET STRANDED SOMEWHERE FOR A FEW DAYS AND WHEN THEY RETURN EVERY ONE ESPECIALLY JAMUNA WILL WANT THEM TO STAY TOGETHER .AFTER YESTERDAYS EPISODE JAMUNA THINKS KESAR HAS FEELINGS FOR TALLI ,SO SHE WOULD SURELY WANT KESAR AND GULAAL TO CONSUMMATE THEIR MARRIAGE JUST TO SPITE TALLI.TALLI WILL GET EVEN WITH JAMUNA BY MARRYING DUSHYANT AND BECOMING HER BAHU.WISHFUL THINKING MAY BE..LETS SEE.THE WORST THAT CAN HAPPEN IS TALLI KESAR MARRIAGE.ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT CANBE TOLERABLE.