GHKPM written updates and Episode Discussion Thread # 134 - Page 4

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Well dude, I can't change your opinion and I am NOT defending viaan's act. But I would like to mention that viaan did ask katha to walk away if she is uncomfortable but she chose to stay. Also, I feel that katha could have told viaan the truth while asking for the loan. That was the mistake from her side. Viaan kept that pathetic condition to test her. That was his mistake. They both made mistakes. I am nowhere defending viaan.Also I don't think that kind a love story is possible in real life coz noone will repent like viaan and noone will be understanding like katha. That's why its called fictional. I was talking about the best redemption in ITV....

While I accept what viaan did was pathetic but I don't agree to call him a rapist as whatever happened was katha's choice. I love katha's character as a mom and as a person. Noone was perfect in that show. Everyone had their own flows. I don't think someone who didn't watch that show from beginning to end will understand the flow of that story as every tiny detail was connected to eachother. And yes, writers did do a fantastic job.

I also was a big fan of yhm as a kid (or a young adult), watched it till ishita's miscarriage. But now I understand how toxic raman was and how idiotic ishita was to give in to all his abuse. Sorry about that if my opinion offended you. But at the end of the day, we are not gonna agree on this so lets make peace with that we have different opinions. Have a nice day,buddy.

Originally posted by: Bibliophiles

I think there is some misunderstanding regarding this clip that I would like to clear

FYI, Savi slapped Rajat as soon as she found him on the airport, even before their confrontation/conversation started.....So, I am not able to understand how were you able to see the wrong sequence in the above clip. Are you sure, you have seen the same clip, or I have watched something else

Also, you're telling as if Raman never assumed that there was some love angle between Ishita-Mani, and that's why never went berserk because of that & attempted to force himself on Ishita. Come on both Raman & Rajat had the same misunderstanding & has committed the same mistake & both of them were leaving the country considering that their respective wives were unhappily stuck in the marriage. Rest sequencing & context have been differently in both shows
Haan Raman was guilty & feeling undeserving, but he could have sincerely & wholeheartedly sought FORGIVENESS from Ishi for his violence even for once. Itna bhi kya EGO bhai... Desh abandon kardenge lekin MAAFI maange bina. The matter as grave as that was never addressed properly there . Several days of violent behaviour & mistreating Ishita was very conveniently forgotten in the OG, & everything(nok-jhok) was shortly back to normal. It was clearly rugged under the carpet by both ISHRA, especially victim literally forgot her husband forcing himself on her the very next day and acted normally. like nothing major happened just a small nok-jhok . YHM CVs clearly FALTERED & Infuriated the audience here.

And, thank god, they have changed the context of airport sequence in Ghum it would've looked without head & tail-so random & meaningless, as sequencing of tracks are different here, becz of time paucity

When did I deny that? I already said yhm didn't handle it properly..What happened during that time was, when the scene aired, we yhm fans trended all over social media- on IF, twitter, FB..there was massive backlash. Yhm cvs never understood how to resolve it so they brushed it under the carpet and both the characters forgot what happened. It was absolutely pathetic and I myself agree with it. In ghum, Rajat apologized. That's why I didn't say anything about that.

But here I'm talking about few people who think the airport scene is some sort of masterpiece scene that sets it apart from og. Is it really the case though? Nope. In that clip he is accusing his wife of having an affair publicly. It's embarrassing, inappropriate and highly humiliating. What should've happened in their private space, is happening in front of everyone. Is there any logic in comparing this scene with the og one? In og, this scene happened nearly 2-3 weeks after Mani's track. In between, there were scenes where Raman started seeing things from Ishita's pov, repenting for his mistakes, making up to her,and then finally taking decision of leaving her for her so that she stays happy..The context in og is completely different.

They've changed the context because they didn't have time to show all of that..which is fine..but I dont understand why it's hailed as some great scene. Rajat here is clearly being an asshole, giving her divorce on the suspicion of affair without even talking to her, so Savi slapping him shouldn't be something that would make her the greatest fl of itv..I mean come on.

Originally posted by: Sajini235

Well dude, I can't change your opinion and I am NOT defending viaan's act. But I would like to mention that viaan did asked katha to walk away if she is uncomfortable but she chose to stay. Also, I feel that katha could have told viaan the truth while asking for the loan. That was the mistake from her side. Viaan kept that pathetic condition to test her. That was his mistake. They both made mistakes. I am nowhere defending viaan.Also I don't think that kind a love story is possible in real life coz noone will repent like viaan and noone will be understanding like katha. That's why its called fictional. I was talking about the best redemption in ITV....

While I accept what viaan did was pathetic but I don't agree to call him a rapist as whatever happened was katha's choice. I love katha's character as a mom and as a person. Noone was perfect in that show. Everyone had their own flows. I don't think someone who didn't watched that show from beginning to end will understand the flow of that story as every tiny detail was connected to eachother. And yes, writers did do a fantastic job. But at the end, it is fictional, not real.

I also was a big fan of yhm as kid, watched it till ishita's miscarriage. But now I understand how toxic raman was and how idiotic ishita was to give in to all his abuse. Sorry about that if my opinion offended you. But at the end of the day, we are not gonna agree on this so lets make peace with that we have different opinions. Have a nice day,buddy.

It has got to do nothing with yhm buddy. You can call ishra toxic all you want, I'm not gonna be offended by that. But please don't call what happened that night as Katha's choice..🙏It wasn't and never will be. The consent obtained here is not by free will, it is obtained under pressure when she was in desperate need of money..That makes her consent invalid, I'm speaking legally, it isn't my opinion. The premise of Viaan's guilt also was problematic He was guilty because Katha was a single mom? But what if she wasn't? What if she wanted loan to build a new house? Does that make his condition okay?No. He was guilty only because she was a mom and her kid was fighting cancer, he wouldn't have been guilty if it was any other regular girl.That's why the whole show/the premise for me is very, very disturbing ..I made a lot of posts about this in Katha Ankahee forum as well. So yeah, nothing to do with yhm. I'm sorry if my post has offended you in anyway. But that show really gets on my nerves

Don't get me wrong but I wanted to tell one last thing.Its just I am little surprised as after the truth of why katha needed money was revealed, when viaan went to ask forgiveness from katha, she herself said what you just said dude that will you feel guilty if I was not a single mom and what if I needed that money for myself. Your literal thought was addressed in that. That's why I said that writers were extremely talented and it is a very complex concept to understand without watching. Also I understand about your point on legal stuff. Sorry to disturb you but couldn't stop myself from replying seeing your opinion reflecting the exact dialogue katha had.

By the way, is your dp from k drama healer? Just asking as I am planning to watch it.

Originally posted by: Sajini235

Don't get me wrong but I wanted to tell one last thing.Its just I am little surprised as after the truth of why katha needed money was revealed, when viaan went to ask forgiveness from katha, she herself said what you just said dude that will you feel guilty if I was not a single mom and what if I needed that money for myself. Your literal thought was addressed in that. That's why I said that writers were extremely talented and it is a very complex concept to understand without watching. Also I understand about your point on legal stuff. Sorry to disturb you but couldn't stop myself from replying seeing your opinion reflecting the exact dialogue katha had.

By the way, is your dp from k drama healer? Just asking as I am planning to watch it.

Yeah I know about that scene dude. But even after that night, Viaan used to paint himself as a victim who was wronged by Katha but he then suddenly starts feeling guilty after he gets to know about Katha's son..That's why I didn't like it. I would've preferred if they showed Viaan not ending up with Katha. Because what happened that night imo was irredeemable.

@Bold: Yes, Yes..do watch itIts my absolute fav. Good mix of action, romance and thriller..Both ML and FL are super protective of each other. ❤️😘

I think there is some misunderstanding regarding this clip, that I would like to clear

FYI, Savi slapped Rajat as soon as she found him on the airport, even before their confrontation/conversation started.....So, I am not able to understand how were you able to see the wrong sequence in the above clip. Are you sure, you have seen the same clip, or I have watched something else??

Savage AF...

Also, you're telling as if Raman never assumed that there was some love angle between Ishita-Mani, and that's why never went berserk because of that & attempted to force himself on Ishita. Come on, both Raman & Rajat had the same misunderstanding & has committed the same mistake & both of them were leaving the country considering that their respective wives were unhappily stuck in the marriage. Rest sequencing & context have been differently in both shows.
Haan, Raman was guilty & feeling undeserving, but he could have sincerely & wholeheartedly sought FORGIVENESS from Ishi for his violence even for once. He couldn't muster courage to seek apology from Ishita ..Itna bhi kya EGO bhai... Desh abandon kardenge lekin MAAFI nahi maange. The matter as grave as that was never addressed properly there . Several days of violent behaviour & mistreating Ishita was very conveniently forgotten in the OG, & everything(nok-jhok) was shortly back to normal. It was clearly rugged under the carpet by both ISHRA, especially victim literally forgot her husband forcing himself on her the very next day and acted normally. like nothing major happened just a small nok-jhok . YHM CVs clearly FALTERED & Infuriated the audience here.

Umm, here I'd like to add a point. In YHM, there was a significant amount of gap between both the tracks.

When the MU happened, it was handled horribly and Raman never ever apologized for it. He felt remorseful when he woke up but then again spotted Ishita with Mani and spewed more venom. It was in the following episodes when Simmi connected the dots and informed him, only then Raman realized his folly. Then as usual there was some forced comic relief and the next thing we knew, IshRa were happily taking part in some ritual, as if nothing ever happened between them.

It was shoddy writing at its worst and presented Ishita in a very poor light.

On the contrary, Raman leaving India was a well-planned track. By then Ishita suffered tremendously thanks to Ashok and Adi. So he felt Ishita would be better off without him. There I believe the writers had done a very good job addressing his inner turmoil.

Thank god, they have changed the context of airport sequence in Ghum, it would've looked without head & tail-so random & meaningless, as sequencing of tracks are different here, becz of time paucity.

Exactly!

Originally posted by: Bibliophiles

Savi is being considered better than her, simply because the victim didn't literally forgot the trauma of her husband forcing himself on her & several days of humiliation & mistreatment, the very next day, and acted normally as if it was a regular nok-jhok & petty fight. For ITV standard, Savi confronted, grilled, lashed him out properly. she refused to let go off the incident & forgive his pathetic behaviour easily, because of that maybe....

Anyways, it's a difference of perception, what could be not so perfect for you & me, could be for others... and it's absolutely fine if they find someone else better because we know taste in fiction/art is a Subjective matter...To each its own...NEVER MIND

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It couldn't have been explained in better words.