GHKPM WU & Episode daily discussion thread #116 DT P. 61 - Page 86

Today is TRP day.

What would be the TRP this week?

1. 2

2. Below 2

Jaanne ke liye intezaar karte rahiye...GossipTV ki TRP reveal ka, lol🤣

Originally posted by: szsiddiqa

Just as gist on the topic of touch "Haath" of those episodes

https://twitter.com/redsalsaaa/status/1478769078613381121

Enjoy!

Thank you dear for sharing this, now ppl can finally clear their misconceptions nd understand the difference between touch of whom she loved nd touch of whom she doesn't love nd have any feelings beyond just being a frnd thus feeling uncomfortable

P. S. This above vm of SaiRat proves everything in regards to intentions of Virat, bcoz Virat never ever touched her with wrong intentions, always their proximity was on mutual consent😌😊so comparing his touch with the Dr. Is lame nd illogical, though I agree Dr. Intention wasn't to make uncomfortable but ignoring the reaction of her aftermath is definitely wrong on his part,he just breaking rules of their marriage in his own flow without her consent

Originally posted by: G259

Not trying to be preachy but there are a few things that should be understood.Please note that whatever I would say in this post is not a dig at any fandom be it SaiRat or SaiYa.Apologies in advance if it comes across as that but I will have to say that for explaining my POV.I have not read the discussions going on here except for the last 2-3 pages.That also happened as I came to check if the episode is up or not.Wanted to read the WU.

Satya touching Sai without her consent is WRONG.

Sai pining for Virat while being married to Satya is wrong.

Shaming Sai for being uncomfortable with Satya's touch is also wrong.

Just because Sai is married to Satya or we want her to with him doesn't mean that we should shame her for not liking his touch.However I won't judge his character or call him names for these incidents because he has not been shown to be such a kind of person.The one who was so perceptive while making her wear gajra is now unable to understand that she isn't comfortable with his touch?This is clearly inconsistent writing.They cannot create conflict or show anything without making it cringe.But we don't say that Virat's behaviour is inconsistent writing because he has had the same pattern of behaviour with Sai and Satya.With Sai he has behaved in a similar way when Mahabaleshwar incident happened,Shruti track happened and countless other instances.His behaviour is Satya is similar to the Ajinkya incident time.The whole hit and miss with Sai trying to tell Satya about being uncomfortable is building up to something big.He might behave the same way again and Sai might blast him this time around.If he does something wrong then,I will surely bash him.

Sai got married to Satya because she wanted to stay "unavailable" for Virat (she had flashbacks of Ashwini saying things on those lines)So now her being in dilemma about choosing sari is bogus.Satya knew what he was getting into but he did not sign up for Sai holding Virat's hand in front of him or trying to touch him.Sai and Virat were not in love in the initial phase of their marriage but we wanted Virat to draw boundaries with Pakhi because deal or whatever,marriage is a marriage and your spouse deserves loyalty.So if Sai does the same,she will be called out.

Thanks soo much for this

I 100% agree with you on all this

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Originally posted by: KaalaCoat

Again… Hypocrisy thy name is Ghum fandom. But seriously, I think my problem with SaiRat fandom was once the lengths they went to or problematic statements they stayed silent about for the sake of their couple.

This is partly because

They didn't show any happy moments between SaiRat throughout their married life and especially after their remarriage. Not in the magnitude to justify the eternal love V Sai are supposed to have.

That's why the makers have to resort to creating new Flashbacks to justify those now. 🤪

All it had was repeated track after track after track of high intensity emotional drama where Sai was crying and V was problematic. All this to justify and keep one character relevant.

The audience has only seen this since about a year or so... all they think of is V harassing Sai one way or another.

What the makers didn't show and we are supposed to assume is that SaiRat also had a loving relationship in between. Sai accepted P as surrogate and was supposedly her happiest with V in that phase... The few glimpses are to suffice. Just because we didn't see it (as audience) doesn't mean Sai didn't get it.

Saavi is the proof of it. She wouldn't be here if Sai had not recovered mentally and emotionally after her miscarriage and surrogacy debacle. (This is not my interpretation... it is what the doctor had told Sai).

V is a problematic character since long (we all are aware of the reasons) ... and all everyone talks about is what he has done wrong. Even bringing up the first marriage which happened around episode 50. To people who have joined recently all they hear/read is this treatment of Sai by V and Chavans. Which is why the opinion and emotions are so high.

That's not the case for old viewers... neutral audiences and those who have been associated for long know that Sai is not entirely right all the time and the issues between them had contribution from both .. though she is always better sorted than V. Almost always.

On the other hand, the makers will give what gives them numbers. And I don't believe they will change the ML after 800+ episodes just because the audience wants a new guy for Sai.

This demand has happening since ages... what made a difference now?

And even if they have brought someone new... my personal expectations were something like what you and me wrote for Sai.

A guy and his family like Arjun and Sumit (Sahil from Sherrys OS too)

I don't see Satya like them 😕 even though this makes me Satya hater 😒

My most favorite phase of SaiRat🤩😍this is the biggest proof which clears that Sai was never uncomfortable with his touch where she never objected him as it has her consent always

https://twitter.com/Anu_chirp/status/1658910934755315712?s=20

P. S. Dr. Intentions wasn't wrong as far as they are showing, but him ignoring her response to it, is completely wrong

Considering all this debate on touch, Satya and Sai, I had this thought.. Some have said it works both ways.. if Sai doesn't want to be touched she should also not touch Satya etc.. And that she didn't stop him from beginning when they were colleagues and later also, in the start of the marriage. If you think about it Sai has started feeling uncomfortable with the touches that upar se seem casual since Satya started developing feelings for Sai.. I guess it has translated itself in the way he touches her and a woman always knows.. Sai somehow gets the undercurrents and that's what is making her uncomfortable. She hasn't anything concrete to call him out on but she senses the change and wants to put a stop. But is hesitant bcz she doesn't want to embarrass herself and Satya if there is nothing in it. That's why her talking to him about it also comes across as half-hearted. Satya on the other hand knows the change within himself, and the reason why he is finding opportunities to touch her, so his doing it is wrong when he knows there's nothing from Sai's side and the terms of the marriage haven't changed. Even if we say he is a good guy and when he knows Sai is uncomfortable he will stop, his doing it now is still wrong.

Wow! That's quite a different perspective. Could be true as well. There's definitely something makers are hinting at, but till they voice it out on the show we can only speculate 😆

The posts on this thread make me so sad. People say just the right, deep things that i totally agree with (some posts), but we all know that writers aren't thinking with such depth. For them, it all happens conveniently wrt TRP/the character(s) they placed their bet on for that week 😅 they are more shallow than the movie gehraiyaan.

Some weeks Satya will be a d*ck, some weeks Viru, sab mein Sai ka "farz vs pyaar" ka nonexisting but forced conflict hoga aur hum sabka katega because we will be trying to find who is the lesser evil of all three.

But we can all agree that biggest evil is bhavani🤣

Originally posted by: austen-eliot

Considering all this debate on touch, Satya and Sai, I had this thought.. Some have said it works both ways.. if Sai doesn't want to be touched she should also not touch Satya etc.. And that she didn't stop him from beginning when they were colleagues and later also, in the start of the marriage. If you think about it Sai has started feeling uncomfortable with the touches that upar se seem casual since Satya started developing feelings for Sai.. I guess it has translated itself in the way he touches her and a woman always knows.. Sai somehow gets the undercurrents and that's what is making her uncomfortable. She hasn't anything concrete to call him out on but she senses the change and wants to put a stop. But is hesitant bcz she doesn't want to embarrass herself and Satya if there is nothing in it. That's why her talking to him about it also comes across as half-hearted. Satya on the other hand knows the change within himself, and the reason why he is finding opportunities to touch her, so his doing it is wrong when he knows there's nothing from Sai's side and the terms of the marriage haven't changed. Even if we say he is a good guy and when he knows Sai is uncomfortable he will stop, his doing it now is still wrong.

Echo this 👍🏼

A woman always senses it, decipher or not....is a different scenario. Satya going into personal space of Sai without her consent is weird. Makers shouldn't have brought this only,given the fact ITV can't handle sensitive issues. It should not have been shown only for stupid trp drama. N it holds true for real/pretense whatever marriage....even in any other relationship

Originally posted by: LoveAyeshaVirat

My most favorite phase of SaiRat🤩😍this is the biggest proof which clears that Sai was never uncomfortable with his touch where she never objected him as it has her consent always

https://twitter.com/Anu_chirp/status/1658910934755315712?s=20

P. S. Dr. Intentions wasn't wrong as far as they are showing, but him ignoring her response to it, is completely wrong

Consent isn't a competition

In present time there have been numerous examples of Virat touching hugging Sai and Sai feelings disgusted by it

Consent isn't a one time free pass

Because by that logic Sai was ok with flirting and going near Satya few episodes back

But that's not how this works

Consent is not a one-time event; it is a continuous conversation that requires active and ongoing participation from all parties involved

Sai right now is as uncomfortable with Virat as she is with Satya