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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Ishani96

I have a feeling that what you’re saying is true but it’ll be tweaked a little. Given the writers of Udaariyan and Ghum are the same, I feel it’s going to be Virakhi sambhog + New ML and then Sairat coming together for a while with new ML + Pakhi turning negative. That’s how they can stretch this plot for a whole year! Then probably shut down/gen leap. As much as I hate the fact the truth is Sairat are going to be the endgame otherwise how will they keep Chavanis and Virakhi relevant into the story till the end. They’d have to phase out. Also I don’t know if anyone else feels it but now it seems like they’re basing Ghum loosely on Kasauti S1?😳

Anything is possible in this serial. Characters change overnight but what remains constant is Vankar's sadism. Vankar plays with every character on the show, but he doesn't play much with Sai so keeping that in mind if he wants his fav character Sai to end up with someone who slept and fell in love with other women then what can fans do. If Virat is going to end up sleeping with Pakhi or falling in love, then new ML is definitely coming. In a way its good, people hanging onto the serial will walk away with painful memories but after few days will find some other serial to watch and forget about it.


KZK 2 itself was not based on KZK 1. Ekta the queen of showing ONS, multiple marriages didnt do that in KZK2 and even today none of her shows have such MLs. If Vankar wants to do that no one can stop him except two factors TRP and channel. Today, both are on his side so he is overconfident and this over confidence is the killer.

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Posted: 2 years ago

honestly it makes no sense that the Chavannis and P, V had no curiosity and interest in Savi's paternity kmowing Sais personality and knowing her name is SAVI. JM is the last person she would sleep with. moreover chavannis have always been meedlessome, gossipy ppl so how did they not care. n how did no one figure based on Savi's age (5 or 7 or whatever) that with such a small age diff, and if Sai didnt adopt- that she had to have been pregnant with V's child.

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Posted: 2 years ago

if new ML comes viewership n buzz, interest will increase and people who quit the show may also come back. most people dont wanna see Sai return to jerk chavan.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: purplegirl7

SPARK

Omi who was scared of Vithal's men and knife today stood against him with the confidence of BK's raajneeti and kursi.

Vitthal said clearly V have 2 wives, but why is DCP acting ignorant? V was unfazed by 2 biwi, pehli biwi, dusri biwi, baharwali and gharwali comment. VM gave a reality check to P. BK was feeding to P that Sai is sautan, but VM called her sautanji🥳. Keeping aside whoever is Savi's father, he had never divorced Sai and is still announcing P is his wife. When VM asked 'then who is Sai?', he became silent. Why couldnt he just say Sai is his son's doctor confidently too? He had been suspended before for having 2 wives before, or the law of ghum land has changed? Even VM got confused by the Chavan family.

V thrashed VM for insinuating Sai and JM's relationship. Le me: bhai saab, khud ka character ko sambhalo. But V got hooked when VM said he was talking truth. When VM said Sai kept JM hanging it felt like a mirror to V and P. V changed her status from bhai ki biwi to meri biwi but still keeps her as dost. Sai will not accept JM, and he also knows it. However corrupt VM is as a person, he feels for his son. 'Jaan chidakta hai Sai pe aur uski bacchi pe'. He doesnt want his son to keep wasting his life. Give a clear cut. V, his son or Sai's life. These options are for Sai, but why did he convey it to V? To take back or let go of his pehli biwi?


BK and Sonali's bakwas was expected but P's answer to Karishma was ajooba. VM did what P did with Ajinkya. P knows Sai's character, thats why she had to be sly and send Ajinkya to her room. It would have made sense if the old Shivani said it. Bindas Shivani was lost with Yamini's exit. Is Karishma really having an affair? She looked so innocent. Saas and bahu enjoys igniting fire on Sai-V-P's relationship's. What would their reaction be if Karishma's affair was exposed?

Sautan's fear was worth watching though. She couldnt even stand BK saying V went to Sai because Sai knows how to get men on her side. Most of the people on the dining table knew V went to Sai. All her badbad about V and their relationship only gave away her insecurities. The V that left is the same V that went up to his room when Ajinkya was there. She knows JM still affects V. She just wants to block it all out. If she had registered VM saying there are 2 men in Sai's life, then Savi's baba could either be V or JM. Deep down she must be praying it is not V.


V has been troubled by JM's presence near Sai at Kankavli itself. Then he questioned Sai about JM by holding her wrist so tight that it left marks😡. She refused to answer. He left but the unanswered question made him go crazy. The first time he saw JM near Sai's house, P diverted him. Then he saw him with Savi, but he left to avoid Savi seeing or hearing things. And today with VM's words, it erupted.

With Gulbya too, V thrashed him for questioning Sai's character. Sai said that the person who does badtameezi have trouble when others does the same. Then went to question Sai who is Savi's father. Today again the same mistake. Sai was already on talking terms with him and greeted him warmly at the door. But he dragged Sai into his car and drove off, away from everything, cornering Sai for an answer😡.


V in his anger and madness, kept insinuating a relationship between Sai and JM.


'Woh gunda bhi aisa pesh aata hai jaisi ki woh tumhari beti ka baap'

The effect of JM questioning Chavan about Savi's kidnapping. I had expected this when they showed JM entering Sai's house after BK questioned who is Savi's baap.


'Ek rishta hamare beech mein hua karta tha, aaj wahi rishta tumhari aur Jagtap ki beech mein'

😡😡😡

With whatever he saw and hear, he had decided there is something between Sai and JM, he just want the name of the relationship.


A slap. THE END. For Sai.


'Mere dil mein tumhare liye 1% FEELINGS THI, woh maine AAJ KHATAM kai'

The hint he wanted came out from Sai's mouth clearly, but its too late.


The person she had feelings for, confessed to, shared a life with..today questioned her character. She is regretting and blaming herself for having feelings for such a person💔

Instead of accepting he was wrong, he took it on his ego. How could Sai's feeling for me end? You hate the confession? I hate the day I fell in love with you. Tumhara jaisa pyar toh thappad hi padega. His ego doesnt allow him to be the wrong one and put the blame back on Sai. TUMHARA Jagtap ka baap created tamasha at my house and, me and my family had to see it. Because of your relationship with Jagtap.

'Jaha chingari hoti hai, wahi dhuan hota hai'

Gulbya, VM and V too. All have the same mindset. Making assumptions on single woman, single mother's character, questioning her kids parentage. Such are the society's thinking.


'Kaun ho aap? Ho kaun?'🔥

V had no answer. Just like he didnt have an answer for VM.


'Patni hai na aapki? Hai na patni?...Pucha aapse Patralekha se shaadi kyu ki?'

She has accepted V is married to someone else and she has no right to question about his personal life.


'Khud chahe jo kuch karlo, lekin jawab aapko mujhse chahiye' 🔥

He is married to someone else but still expecting answer from Sai as if she is still his wife.


Somehow the 'fight' felt like Shruti track rehash but Sai and V flipped.


Sai's speech about women empowerment felt like trolling both V and BK. V once raised his voice for Sai's education and career, women to work and sharing house work between husband and wife. BK used to be against it. Now BK gives speech about women empowering women but still spews nonsense about Sai.


Today felt the spark of Sai Joshi's aag. Loved her comeback to V. Really hoping this will grow into 🔥. Sai has more control on her anger now, but V's anger keeps growing. Until V realizes he was wrong, he will keep causing destruction. By the time he realizes he is wrong, the bridge will be burnt.

I read very few people’s pov here adding you to the list! Superbly stated

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: mysticriver


No. They've two biological children. They can't show Pakhi's pregnancy journey second time... Of pl. They'd lose audience then when they showed no pregnancy journey of Sai. If this go UD way Ghum would lose audience. I see a new ML permanently if VP angle go to that direction despite giving two biological children of leads. None can tolerate ML impregnating some other woman. That too in a prime time show of SP. Its not the same era anymore. Or even willingly romancing, falling for or having s*x in full sense or falls out of love with FL then trp audience too won't tolerate it. Anyway I feel makers are literally playing with fire. Taking too much of a risk. It can go either ways. People will understand their tricks & feel boredom after a point. Why would ppl continue watching VP being & acting as a couple or their love story? I doubt that about trp audience. This show thrives on sensationalism & triggering content but everything has it's saturation point. After a point there's gonna be no come back.

V S dena nahi tha toh two biological kids kyun? That’s my question.

People say this will go anupamaa way, but we forget that show is about the titular character who had grown kids but here the kids are small.

At for UD correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t remember Fateh sleeping with jasmine. Yes he slept with tejo then left her but never slept with jasmine. Whereas in imile they showed aditya sleeping with Malini so brought aryan for imile.

As far as I know Trp audience they will take it all till that one thing doesn’t happen if that line is crossed they’ll want a new ml too. So the call is on channel and makers.
FEMALE LEAD will be sai and sai only anyone paired opp her is the ML, so will NB want to loose the status of ML- nope.
both kids belong to sai Virat, they could’ve gone the kd or even irrorbotir way of showing vinu biologically pakhis. Virat being attached with that kid but they made him sai’s son.
The kids are too young for them to have a broken family like anupamaa.

Just stating facts here.
Virat has to be redeemed though for the acceptance to come back and that’s on makers. They know what brings them Trp and we all know it too if they don’t see it or don’t want to cash in on it then what can we do. Ghum will drown too sooner or later. and let’s not forget this is the only money making show this ph has left so they better be smart or their ph will shut down for good this time

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: purplegirl7

SPARK

Omi who was scared of Vithal's men and knife today stood against him with the confidence of BK's raajneeti and kursi.

Vitthal said clearly V have 2 wives, but why is DCP acting ignorant? V was unfazed by 2 biwi, pehli biwi, dusri biwi, baharwali and gharwali comment. VM gave a reality check to P. BK was feeding to P that Sai is sautan, but VM called her sautanji🥳. Keeping aside whoever is Savi's father, he had never divorced Sai and is still announcing P is his wife. When VM asked 'then who is Sai?', he became silent. Why couldnt he just say Sai is his son's doctor confidently too? He had been suspended before for having 2 wives before, or the law of ghum land has changed? Even VM got confused by the Chavan family.

V thrashed VM for insinuating Sai and JM's relationship. Le me: bhai saab, khud ka character ko sambhalo. But V got hooked when VM said he was talking truth. When VM said Sai kept JM hanging it felt like a mirror to V and P. V changed her status from bhai ki biwi to meri biwi but still keeps her as dost. Sai will not accept JM, and he also knows it. However corrupt VM is as a person, he feels for his son. 'Jaan chidakta hai Sai pe aur uski bacchi pe'. He doesnt want his son to keep wasting his life. Give a clear cut. V, his son or Sai's life. These options are for Sai, but why did he convey it to V? To take back or let go of his pehli biwi?


BK and Sonali's bakwas was expected but P's answer to Karishma was ajooba. VM did what P did with Ajinkya. P knows Sai's character, thats why she had to be sly and send Ajinkya to her room. It would have made sense if the old Shivani said it. Bindas Shivani was lost with Yamini's exit. Is Karishma really having an affair? She looked so innocent. Saas and bahu enjoys igniting fire on Sai-V-P's relationship's. What would their reaction be if Karishma's affair was exposed?

Sautan's fear was worth watching though. She couldnt even stand BK saying V went to Sai because Sai knows how to get men on her side. Most of the people on the dining table knew V went to Sai. All her badbad about V and their relationship only gave away her insecurities. The V that left is the same V that went up to his room when Ajinkya was there. She knows JM still affects V. She just wants to block it all out. If she had registered VM saying there are 2 men in Sai's life, then Savi's baba could either be V or JM. Deep down she must be praying it is not V.


V has been troubled by JM's presence near Sai at Kankavli itself. Then he questioned Sai about JM by holding her wrist so tight that it left marks😡. She refused to answer. He left but the unanswered question made him go crazy. The first time he saw JM near Sai's house, P diverted him. Then he saw him with Savi, but he left to avoid Savi seeing or hearing things. And today with VM's words, it erupted.

With Gulbya too, V thrashed him for questioning Sai's character. Sai said that the person who does badtameezi have trouble when others does the same. Then went to question Sai who is Savi's father. Today again the same mistake. Sai was already on talking terms with him and greeted him warmly at the door. But he dragged Sai into his car and drove off, away from everything, cornering Sai for an answer😡.


V in his anger and madness, kept insinuating a relationship between Sai and JM.


'Woh gunda bhi aisa pesh aata hai jaisi ki woh tumhari beti ka baap'

The effect of JM questioning Chavan about Savi's kidnapping. I had expected this when they showed JM entering Sai's house after BK questioned who is Savi's baap.


'Ek rishta hamare beech mein hua karta tha, aaj wahi rishta tumhari aur Jagtap ki beech mein'

😡😡😡

With whatever he saw and hear, he had decided there is something between Sai and JM, he just want the name of the relationship.


A slap. THE END. For Sai.


'Mere dil mein tumhare liye 1% FEELINGS THI, woh maine AAJ KHATAM kai'

The hint he wanted came out from Sai's mouth clearly, but its too late.


The person she had feelings for, confessed to, shared a life with..today questioned her character. She is regretting and blaming herself for having feelings for such a person💔

Instead of accepting he was wrong, he took it on his ego. How could Sai's feeling for me end? You hate the confession? I hate the day I fell in love with you. Tumhara jaisa pyar toh thappad hi padega. His ego doesnt allow him to be the wrong one and put the blame back on Sai. TUMHARA Jagtap ka baap created tamasha at my house and, me and my family had to see it. Because of your relationship with Jagtap.

'Jaha chingari hoti hai, wahi dhuan hota hai'

Gulbya, VM and V too. All have the same mindset. Making assumptions on single woman, single mother's character, questioning her kids parentage. Such are the society's thinking.


'Kaun ho aap? Ho kaun?'🔥

V had no answer. Just like he didnt have an answer for VM.


'Patni hai na aapki? Hai na patni?...Pucha aapse Patralekha se shaadi kyu ki?'

She has accepted V is married to someone else and she has no right to question about his personal life.


'Khud chahe jo kuch karlo, lekin jawab aapko mujhse chahiye' 🔥

He is married to someone else but still expecting answer from Sai as if she is still his wife.


Somehow the 'fight' felt like Shruti track rehash but Sai and V flipped.


Sai's speech about women empowerment felt like trolling both V and BK. V once raised his voice for Sai's education and career, women to work and sharing house work between husband and wife. BK used to be against it. Now BK gives speech about women empowering women but still spews nonsense about Sai.


Today felt the spark of Sai Joshi's aag. Loved her comeback to V. Really hoping this will grow into 🔥. Sai has more control on her anger now, but V's anger keeps growing. Until V realizes he was wrong, he will keep causing destruction. By the time he realizes he is wrong, the bridge will be burnt.


Awesome read!!👏👏


I think two things are here to stay after today. V’s angst and vengeance. Sai’s fire and confidence and no nonsense attitude

Sai may be at a disadvantage with Savi’s truth, but we know who will buckle eventually. But when and how is something that is tiring and frustrating. The feeling that it is a long wait ahead is just not helping

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Svt611

V S dena nahi tha toh two biological kids kyun? That’s my question.

People say this will go anupamaa way, but we forget that show is about the titular character who had grown kids but here the kids are small.

At for UD correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t remember Fateh sleeping with jasmine. Yes he slept with tejo then left her but never slept with jasmine. Whereas in imile they showed aditya sleeping with Malini so brought aryan for imile.

As far as I know Trp audience they will take it all till that one thing doesn’t happen if that line is crossed they’ll want a new ml too. So the call is on channel and makers.
FEMALE LEAD will be sai and sai only anyone paired opp her is the ML, so will NB want to loose the status of ML- nope.
both kids belong to sai Virat, they could’ve gone the kd or even irrorbotir way of showing vinu biologically pakhis and Virat with that kid attached but they made him sai’s son.
The kids are too young for them to have a broken family like anupamaa.

Just stating facts here.
Virat has to be redeemed though for the acceptance to come back and that’s on makers. They know what brings them Trp and we all know it too if they don’t see it or don’t want to cash in on it then what can we do. Ghum will drown too sooner or later. and let’s not forget this is the only money making show this ph has left so they better be smart or their ph will shut down for good this time


But for redemption too you can butcher a character only to a certain limit.


In post anniversary, DevKit drama, post Shruti they did show Sai is in his heart but he had become like that due to anger & resentment but things are too dicey in this track.


For majority Virat/NB won't no longer be ML if VP angle goes to that direction. He'll be seen a legitimate villain officialy. VP pair won't ever be accepted, lead pair will always be the one that will have Sai in it.


UD mein jo dikhaya that was unacceptable. Doesn't matter how close Priyanka and Ankit were offscreen & their offscreen BTS or they were leads but I'd not have ever shipped Fatejo due to what they showed b/w Fateh & Jasmin. He didn't sleep but he was having affair with Jasmin, used to have full blown proper romance with Jasmin (it wasn't VP or Virat Shrutu cringe touchy scenes which isn't romance that way). He had kept on telling about his love to Jasmin. He used to get jealous seeing Jasmin with another person, infact if I remember correctly he had used Tejo in some scenes to make Jasmin jealous ig.


So sleeping with another woman without knowledge or drunk state in weak moment unwillingly thing can be given justification but woh bhi bohut pehle ki baat hai. Mostly when there's intercourse b/w ML & PL there will be pregnancy of that woman on the way I doubt phirse pregnancy dikhayenge uska or she won't be able to become mother?


In Imlie AKT didn't willingly sleep with Malini...

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Posted: 2 years ago

And it is surprising, I haven't seen an ITV show as toxic as Ghum and yet I'm around even if it is for few scenes 😂.

But yes I must admit I skip many scenes in Ghum (I rarely do that for any show, film, or book). No doubt I've been a 0.2 TRP show shipper 😂


Trust me. I fall into the same bracket. Checking all the boxes.

I skip scenes and episodes of ghum. I love movies and go to watch all by myself. I love to watch the beauty of it on the larger canvas. I have sat through the worst movies when my friends just wanted to run🤣. Books are well second love!

I’m always manifesting on that TRP. Just doesn’t seem to be working😉

Parivaar has been sticking around since separation. His decision to stick by his larger family and Sai questioning if he even considered one.
Even in the promo he said “Ek baar maine apne parivaar la saath diya”.

All is about his parivaar. Where did Sai fit in here? And which family is he even referring to? The ones give two hoots about him and his happiness. All they do is use him for driving their own agendas and getting their way around things, boosting their egos. No one really cares what he wants. Not even Ashwini

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: mysticriver


But for redemption too you can butcher a character only to a certain limit.


In post anniversary, DevKit drama, post Shruti they did show Sai is in his heart but he had become like that due to anger & resentment but things are too dicey in this track.


For majority Virat/NB won't no longer be ML if VP angle goes to that direction. He'll be seen a legitimate villain officialy. VP pair won't ever be accepted, lead pair will always be the one that will have Sai in it.


UD mein jo dikhaya that was unacceptable. Doesn't matter how close Priyanka and Ankit were offscreen & their offscreen BTS or they were leads but I'd not have ever shipped Fatejo due to what they showed b/w Fateh & Jasmin. He didn't sleep but he was having affair with Jasmin, used to have full blown proper romance with Jasmin (it wasn't VP or Virat Shrutu cringe touchy scenes which isn't romance that way). He had kept on telling about his love to Jasmin. He used to get jealous seeing Jasmin with another person, infact if I remember correctly he had used Tejo in some scenes to make Jasmin jealous ig.


So sleeping with another woman without knowledge or drunk state in weak moment unwillingly thing can be given justification but woh bhi bohut pehle ki baat hai. Mostly when there's intercourse b/w ML & PL there will be pregnancy of that woman on the way I doubt phirse pregnancy dikhayenge uska or she won't be able to become mother?


In Imlie AKT didn't willingly sleep with Malini...

Uske bawajood we imile main naya ml aya.

Here v uses p to make sai jealous. I never saw him use sai to make p jealous.
see I get what everyone is saying I’m not too fond of v myself today but story pov se if I see why give two biological kids to the leads. See they messed up with their execution, to add scenes and increase their content they screwed many things up and it’ll cost them

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Svt611

V S dena nahi tha toh two biological kids kyun? That’s my question.

People say this will go anupamaa way, but we forget that show is about the titular character who had grown kids but here the kids are small.

At for UD correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t remember Fateh sleeping with jasmine. Yes he slept with tejo then left her but never slept with jasmine. Whereas in imile they showed aditya sleeping with Malini so brought aryan for imile.

As far as I know Trp audience they will take it all till that one thing doesn’t happen if that line is crossed they’ll want a new ml too. So the call is on channel and makers.
FEMALE LEAD will be sai and sai only anyone paired opp her is the ML, so will NB want to loose the status of ML- nope.
both kids belong to sai Virat, they could’ve gone the kd or even irrorbotir way of showing vinu biologically pakhis. Virat being attached with that kid but they made him sai’s son.
The kids are too young for them to have a broken family like anupamaa.

Just stating facts here.
Virat has to be redeemed though for the acceptance to come back and that’s on makers. They know what brings them Trp and we all know it too if they don’t see it or don’t want to cash in on it then what can we do. Ghum will drown too sooner or later. and let’s not forget this is the only money making show this ph has left so they better be smart or their ph will shut down for good this time


I agree with your points Siya. All all valid and justified and logical. Sai-V have to be the end game.
But I continue to have my doubts with the off screen dynamics. If not P would not have been married to V.

Coming to V’s redemption, with what he has done today, and what he is supposed to do as per the spoilers, I have no idea how that is even possible. How can his act today be justified?

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