Aapko kya !! - Page 34

Originally posted by: Sherry24

I agree with your points Siya. All all valid and justified and logical. Sai-V have to be the end game.
But I continue to have my doubts with the off screen dynamics. If not P would not have been married to V.

Coming to V’s redemption, with what he has done today, and what he is supposed to do as per the spoilers, I have no idea how that is even possible. How can his act today be justified?

That’s what I’m curious to know.
For me channel sees its benefits which lie with we all know what if the ph and actors are throwing too many tantrums channel will shut the show for good.

With what he did today somewhere I expected him crossing the line this way, as for IF spoiler I don’t know how that’ll play out. Anyways it’s not like sai is living in heaven now he has already made her life miserable, what more is he going to do? Snatch savi? How? For that he’ll have to prove he’s still married to sai and chalo if he says she hid her identity then judge will ask why and why did she leave the house….if they show illegal content calls for Ibf complaints.

Is this Ph willing to loose ghum? The only show that works? They have had 5 out of 6 shows shut down in a span of 6 months. May 2022 to October 2022, can they risk ghum shutting down? I don’t think so.

This ph isn’t Ekta or rajan who will bounce back.As I said yesterday audience is king in the entertainment industry. If big stars like Aamir can get rejected who are these people.
Honestly I feel people should stop theorising or giving any kind of discussion and feedback to them. Feedback is very clear from audience across platforms even Trp. they watch only to see what Will sai do or how will sai virat come back or how will savi get her father.

This team lacks execution, in their overconfidence they ruin the potential of the show. And if I heard right Ekta is bringing a new show at 8 on colors 😊 so will star take a hit on their prime time? Currently ghum is loosing money for them, yes they have Trp but Trp alone doesn’t gain revenue, no revenue = loss for channel as cost isn’t re earned, a reason why slb was removed from saraswatichandra.

Honestly on the makers to make or break the show, this time it is the final straw from them they are on the verge of burning this show to ashes and their ph too, phir sochte rehna ashes se kaise rise karoge cause it won’t happen. Audience has the capability to destroy many things. Silence is a killer for this ph and it’ll destroy them waise bhi kabh tak negative hype pe jeete rahoge, you will have to add positivity. Yep audience will catch on and now they will get a new show to watch. So let’s see.
redeem kar sakte ho, instead of thinking that audience is your enemy see their love for the characters and lead pair s and v not their hatred for your useless characters. Ghum stood strong because audience like you and I fell for sai Virat, that is your trump not anything else.

If the marketing teams of star and ph is reading this (which I know you do) then understand audience doesn’t hate you fgs, audience hates the toxicity of your show and cause you insult your audience they have started hating you all too. Your feedback is unanimous everywhere and we also voice the opinion of Trp audience so if you don’t want to take it jo karna hai karo we will happily leave and we are.

Originally posted by: Svt611

Uske bawajood we imile main naya ml aya.

Here v uses p to make sai jealous. I never saw him use sai to make p jealous.
see I get what everyone is saying I’m not too fond of v myself today but story pov se if I see why give two biological kids to the leads. See they messed up with their execution, to add scenes and increase their content they screwed many things up and it’ll cost them

Imlie mein aya due to Gashmeer having beef with Gul & channel.

See people accept or okay with ml loving anyone other than the FL is only a humshakal of the FL... That's common.

See that's the problem nah if they had kept Virat like with Pakhi till now like he was with her until he saw Sai & Jagtap and if they just focussed on Virat is actually playing and leading on P as he's jealous thinking Sai has moved on or he's doing all these with his heart not agreeing or wanting, not willingly ya just focussed on Virat using Pakhi only to make Sai jealous phir it'd have been bearable but that's not how it comes across. Neither in dialogues. Monologues. It's looking Virat is genuinely moving on in many scenes... They should give dialogues atleast to clear he has Sai only in his heart... How anyone would interpret when he keeps assuring and giving her wife status publicly that too infront of Sai without any inhibitions. How would they undo all these? I am clueless. Where's this even heading.

Originally posted by: Svt611

That’s what I’m curious to know.
For me channel sees its benefits which lie with we all know what if the ph and actors are throwing too many tantrums channel will shut the show for good.

With what he did today somewhere I expected him crossing the line this way, as for IF spoiler I don’t know how that’ll play out. Anyways it’s not like sai is living in heaven now he has already made her life miserable, what more is he going to do? Snatch savi? How? For that he’ll have to prove he’s still married to sai and chalo if he says she hid her identity then judge will ask why and why did she leave the house….if they show illegal content calls for Ibf complaints.

Is this Ph willing to loose ghum? The only show that works? They have had 5 out of 6 shows shut down in a span of 6 months. May 2022 to October 2022, can they risk ghum shutting down? I don’t think so.

This ph isn’t Ekta or rajan who will bounce back.As I said yesterday audience is king in the entertainment industry. If big stars like Aamir can get rejected who are these people.
Honestly I feel people should stop theorising or giving any kind of discussion and feedback to them. Feedback is very clear from audience across platforms even Trp. they watch only to see what Will sai do or how will sai virat come back or how will savi get her father.

This team lacks execution, in their overconfidence they ruin the potential of the show. And if I heard right Ekta is bringing a new show at 8 on colors 😊 so will star take a hit on their prime time? Currently ghum is loosing money for them, yes they have Trp but Trp alone doesn’t gain revenue, no revenue = loss for channel as cost isn’t re earned, a reason why slb was removed from saraswatichandra.

Honestly on the makers to make or break the show, this time it is the final straw from them they are on the verge of burning this show to ashes and their ph too, phir sochte rehna ashes se kaise rise karoge cause it won’t happen. Audience has the capability to destroy many things. Silence is a killer for this ph and it’ll destroy them waise bhi kabh tak negative hype pe jeete rahoge, you will have to add positivity. Yep audience will catch on and now they will get a new show to watch. So let’s see.
redeem kar sakte ho, instead of thinking that audience is your enemy see their love for the characters and lead pair s and v not their hatred for your useless characters. Ghum stood strong because audience like you and I fell for sai Virat, that is your trump not anything else.

If the marketing teams of star and ph is reading this (which I know you do) then understand audience doesn’t hate you fgs, audience hates the toxicity of your show and cause you insult your audience they have started hating you all too. Your feedback is unanimous everywhere and we also voice the opinion of Trp audience so if you don’t want to take it jo karna hai karo we will happily leave and we are.

What do you think of the new SBS voiceover... They've never been wrong...

What if he himself gives divorce to Sai to get Savi as he doesn't want Sai...

Maybe the ph people is too loaded...

Originally posted by: mysticriver

What do you think of the new SBS voiceover... They've never been wrong...

What if he himself gives divorce to Sai to get Savi as he doesn't want Sai...

Maybe the ph people is too loaded...

Sbs has been wrong many times before 😂

Only surrogacy and savi truth they were bang on. I don’t trust anything anymore till I see it happen.

De de but will savi leave her mother, nope! Will vinu choose sai when he finds out who his parents are, yes!

Phir v kya karega?

Ph isn’t loaded hota toh saare shows udd nahi gaye hote.

Originally posted by: mysticriver

Imlie mein aya due to Gashmeer having beef with Gul & channel.

See people accept or okay with ml loving anyone other than the FL is only a humshakal of the FL... That's common.

See that's the problem nah if they had kept Virat like with Pakhi till now like he was with her until he saw Sai & Jagtap and if they just focussed on Virat is actually playing and leading on P as he's jealous thinking Sai has moved on or he's doing all these with his heart not agreeing or wanting, not willingly ya just focussed on Virat using Pakhi only to make Sai jealous phir it'd have been bearable but that's not how it comes across. Neither in dialogues. Monologues. It's looking Virat is genuinely moving on in many scenes... They should give dialogues atleast to clear he has Sai only in his heart... How anyone would interpret when he keeps assuring and giving her wife status publicly that too infront of Sai without any inhibitions. How would they undo all these? I am clueless. Where's this even heading.

i told you they screw up just to prolong the show and increase count of episode. They think audience has amnesia but we don’t. It’s on them now, make it or break it but this time it’ll break for sure if they don’t fix it

Originally posted by: Swaydheenta

Chalo good,

Angst and hate filled track is upcoming. I love it.

I seriously don't like, sweet, lovey dovey sairat, that much.

The post confession one.

If executed well and if the focus is on SaiRat, with less ss of bhabhi, then this track is gonna be awesome.

Sai Will file a police complaint. Virat will decide to take a revenge.

There's a lot of angst.

In all this, my only question remains, what about the virat, that'll go after sai?

I know, it's too early, but what i mean is, that our guesses were that virat will realize that he's in a deep mess after savi's revelation and will bend towards sai!

He will bend towards sai in the future, but what will trigger it, expect Vinu's revelation?

The realisation that he wants sai back and will go after her but sai will not forgive him easily?

With savi's revelation.

His guilt and conflict of marrying pakhi and realising that, he's in a big trouble, is needed in the future.

There's no guilt or realisation of his marriage with pakhi.

What would trigger that?

Most of us predicated that with savi's revelation, virat will be in a huge problem and he'll realise that his MARRIAGE with pakhi is a huge issue.

The realisation that he created a big mess by marrying pakhi, isn't there.

My question remains, what will trigger that realisation? And, then what will make him go After sai.

The realisation that he cannot claim his child, due to his marriage with pakhi.

But, filhaal aisa dikh nahi raha. He's openly claiming savi, DESPITE being married to pakhi.

As if he has no RESTRICTION and marriage ain't even a issue.

The restriction factor is a thing. He's not HESITATING to claim savi or take her, despite that marriage.

NOT RIGHT NOW. BUT, IN THE FUTURE.

Baaki, iske alawa, I'm loving this track👍🏼

At first a big high fi Sway and I'm glad I'm not the only one who is not much fan of lovy dovy sairat. I always liked sairat domesticity and their raw emotions and passionate fights where I see their love more compared to romantic scenes. Their couple fights give me more feelings compared to post confession wale sairat.

I might be in minority or a single one who don't see Virat going after Sai to convince her and manao her because this pattern has been overly used here, moreover it actually doesn't serve the purpose of leap for me. The reason is again communication and understanding each other's as an individual will be lacking here. If u observe in Shruti track divorce drama and current separation Sai's one dialog was permanent, iss Virat Chavan ko toh mai nahi janti and that's where I'm hoping this track will be more about individual exploration rather than manao each other's bcoz their contrasting personality is their main issue in their relationship and not able to make understand each other's thought process.

My belief is Sai will understand Virat as an individual rather than comparing with her father and his ethics coz both are different person and their definition of duty is also completely different. For Virat he have to understand Sai's insecurities and most importantly he should learn to balance between his duty and love, that will be his main growth in this track and that will come because of kids, one side adopted son(as of now) another side his own blood, both are is biggest responsibilities as of now and very messy one.

For sairat it's very long way to go for me because currently they are more functioning as parents. And I actually liked yesterday that complete destruction or bury of their feelings which gives possibility of new falling in love phase without any baggage or responsibility.

Honestly even I don't want anyone to run after each others coz that will again put their issues will be unaddressed which I'm really tired now.

If u see sairat confession than it was about their insecurities and fear of losing each others rather than love and feeling of living together or of committing to each other's, neither they had any sort of communication and addressing issues. They both maksed their feelings and emotions, even that agreeing for surrogacy was their fear of losing each other's.

I really can't think what exactly going to happen coz writers are throwing one after another surprise to us, but if I observe the characters here than I don't see Virat regretting of marrying Pakhi as of now coz his reasons are clear, it's for Vinnu, neither he regrets of standing for his family that day when Sai left house. The only point where I was hoping that Vinnnu's congenital health issues might make Virat realise his blunder on surrogacy but again promo of Vinnu recovery gave another shock.

The question is not about if Sairat are endgame but whether they "should" be. And the answer is clear. They should NOT. V is beyond redemption. now even if he regrets, Sai cannot be with a guy like him. He is toxic, abusive. Just like JM despite his "reformation" remains a murderer and cannot become Sai's husband/lover, similarly a man like V - even if he regrets from here on out, has been massacred to the point that his reformation if any- will only be for himself. So that he doesn't go to hell. And maybe so that his biological children don't feel humiliated to think that a criminal is their "father". At least if ge repents they will face less shame,pain to be associated with him by blood.

Anyone that thinks V should be able to "win Sai back" or that Sai should forgive him to be with him clearly doesn't understand that V is abusive. And that saddens me even more than the show's plot. Instead of glorifying abuse as love/passion/possessiveness, we as audience should take a stand against a story that makes a woman - a FL return to be with a spineless , toxic guy.

Originally posted by: Moor278

Episode 654

Very honest opinion is I didn't like the episode.

And before anyone comes at me that this might be because V got slapped, let me clarify it's not. . He is inconsequential.

Just yesterday I mentioned that I have hopes from the writing team. The thing is we as audience are attached to the characters and show but new writers or the new team which comes in midway doesn't have the proper reference or are unbothered to go and check.

Hence the disconnect.

Still... it gave me feels of the Sai confession episode. Part 1 was stupid but it worked in totality.

This might be the same.

Also others can throw light on the editing part but inserting the CN scene in between the fight took away the tempo of the fight. I would have been happy if this had continued in flow.

On second viewing with just SaiRat fight it is more glaring that it should not have been done.

The entire episode showcases misogynistic and patriarchal mindset.

Vitthal arrives at CN and makes accusations over Sai. Asks V to control his first wife. Calls P Sai's sautan... calls V a bigamist. So far so good.

He does show what Society treats a woman even in 2022!!! Her honor, her status in the society is referenced with that of the man in her life. If Vitthhal very well knew that V is married and Sai is not... why didn't he take his grouse on Sai? Why did he have to involve V in this? I know for the sake of drama it is important but as said... it's patriarchy. Sai alludes the same in the end.

V reacts as he should have. Macho man

It's a 7 year leap BTW😔... koi Vanku ko maths sikhao.

Sai is a human, uska gestation 3 Saal ka nahi ho sakta 🤡

CN is as expected. Once again, even though they don't want to be associated with Sai... The accusations and toxicity doesn't stop... neither the need to talk about it continuously. Misogynist.

Surprisingly P makes an important point ki think about how it feels as a woman when K wonders if Sai and Jags have an affair. Ironic.. when in all probability Karishma herself is having an affair.

But how is this the same P who wanted V to see Ajinkya with Sai? Or who implied that Sai and Aniket are more than friends.

If this was said in front of V purposely, I can understand if this is a pretence. But this cannot be the P we know from pre leap. I don't know what they are making her. 😕

V goes to Sai's place, drags her and makes her sit in the car. Those waiting for recreation scenes can calm themselves. The seat belt scene is recreated with Sai and V. Is good.

He takes her to an open ground and blasts at her. Directly asks if she has an affair with Jags... and receives a slap.

Confession episode vibes again. This is the same cheek that had once received a public kiss. 😃

The slap should have landed 😤... makeup se 2-3 ungli banate to aur maja aata... bada hi fake slap tha like the fake kiss 😆

While the dialogues are much needed they do not have the punch that we expect from a SaiRat fight. I am not satisfied.

It's more of gyaan than pain... it's more of rueing than anger.

This is not how Sai would react. I would have loved if Ajinkya was referenced. Sai when denied food was more fierce than the Sai today who had her character questioned.

This anger and frustration was more like a resigned acceptance... something at how we react after repeatedly saying the same thing and yet the other person is not understanding it.

V has implied it and is angry but he has not made a direct accusation like this so far, not to her. I expected Sai to be massively angry. This was too bland.

Both regret the day they fell in love, confessed.

V has FB of Sai's confession.

'Hamare bich Jo bhi rishta tha!!!'... excuse me... The rishta is not dead

Both lie to each other and themselves about their feelings for each other.

The end dialogues of Sai about how Society treats a single woman was important but not needed now... now was the time to air out the differences and hurt. To clear out the misunderstandings. Only once has Sai asked why did he marry P? It should have been extended more. I would love if Sai asks more questions.. especially why did he marry P if he loved Sai so much?

Looks like the fight has not ended and may continue tomm... in totality it may work. Not particularly on this episode.

Ayesha NB did good with the material provided but it did not have the intensity of a SaiRat fight. The pre leap fight was much much better.

Sincerely hope this continues tommm... and more personal questions come out. 😕

P.S. P is unreadable today. She does seem worried and insecure for V and her status but she is voicing good for Sai when everything points otherwise. This cannot be the same P who accused Sai of doing drugs with scholarship money. 😔

P.P.S. The new writers are good. Approach is different and bit refreshing. But I wish someone gives them a rundown on important elements of the story. It can't be total ignorance.

Sometimes like today it feels like these two are not the Sai and V we know 😭

I won't say I didn't liked yesterday's episode because bura se bhi bura episode dekh liya ghum mai toh it was superior 😂 and on top of that ghum rarely touches women empowerment dialogue so have to give it to them for giving powerful dialogue to FL addressing how single mothers are judged everyday.

But yes during all this thing emotional quotient was definitely missing, it inserting dining table drama was just meh and it ruined continuity and intensity both.

I honestly want more of Sai's outburst as a betrayed wife and mother rather than this dialogue and her questioning him all valid questions regarding Pakhi where he have to face mirror, that would be more fun to watch. But again I understand that all this things are to extend misunderstanding after Sai's truth revelation where Virat will be in hulk mode again and sulking on his pain and bring all custody battle topic for drama only, we know custody not going to happen here because for that writer's have to use brain which they clearly doesn't have.

And that thappad toh omg it was hilarious, I grown up watching Parvati, Prerana and Tulsi ka slapping era toh aajkal ke FL are nothing in front of those slapping Queens 😂😭😂😭

I wish makers focus on Sai and Virat's emotions more than those drama because it's going repeated and now Diwali is over so hope story will move forward.

I'm all for revenge, hatred phase of sairat because if its executed well than its one of the good troop of itv and I want raw emotions of both of them.

Originally posted by: mysticriver

Imlie mein aya due to Gashmeer having beef with Gul & channel.

See people accept or okay with ml loving anyone other than the FL is only a humshakal of the FL... That's common.

See that's the problem nah if they had kept Virat like with Pakhi till now like he was with her until he saw Sai & Jagtap and if they just focussed on Virat is actually playing and leading on P as he's jealous thinking Sai has moved on or he's doing all these with his heart not agreeing or wanting, not willingly ya just focussed on Virat using Pakhi only to make Sai jealous phir it'd have been bearable but that's not how it comes across. Neither in dialogues. Monologues. It's looking Virat is genuinely moving on in many scenes... They should give dialogues atleast to clear he has Sai only in his heart... How anyone would interpret when he keeps assuring and giving her wife status publicly that too infront of Sai without any inhibitions. How would they undo all these? I am clueless. Where's this even heading.

I know some ppl are saying there's something more to VPs marriage but I don't think so....some ppl are saying that there must be more to why everyone is thankful to P

But if you think back to the FB of adoption process it looked like ninad practically begged P to accept the marriage so that's the Ehsan she did for the family because with that marriage they got vinu and v and Ashwini say that vinu is Vs lifesaver so they are grateful to P for "sacrificing" for V

I don't think it's anymore than that can't give the makers that much credit to create a underlying story ...we've seen what they do

If there was something there would be some hints ....not subtle hints but actual hints that mass audience could see

Originally posted by: Mikis

I know some ppl are saying there's something more to VPs marriage but I don't think so....some ppl are saying that there must be more to why everyone is thankful to P

But if you think back to the FB of adoption process it looked like ninad practically begged P to accept the marriage so that's the Ehsan she did for the family because with that marriage they got vinu and v and Ashwini say that vinu is Vs lifesaver so they are grateful to P for "sacrificing" for V

I don't think it's anymore than that can't give the makers that much credit to create a underlying story ...we've seen what they do

If there was something there would be some hints ....not subtle hints but actual hints that mass audience could see

Yup. Aur kiya hosakta hai? There's no mental thing. They had covered all that post surrogacy from KD. Even Pakhi's suicide attempt all that... Depression track.