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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Moor278

Read few opinions...

My understanding stems from this...

Sai ka suffering is a given. It drives TRP because the TRP public (predominantly female) feel vindicated when Sai wins. So uspe blame game, rona Dhona, taane baazi hogi hi... V might lead the team himself

But for them family, kids and motherhood is of prime importance. All of which points to Sai.


That said... I am still seeing the story in the broader context.

1. I have made peace with V as an obnoxious individual who is loyal to Sai only physically. That's what the makers been trying to show since the leap. And while the 'one organ theory' is now seen as a joke, it is the only relevant aspect for V. Yes they have reduced a character, a human being to just his physical needs. Sad as it is 😔

2. Even though it's a rehash of Ghum 1.0... it's not... because P is really married to V. Sai is not really an outsider, neither just zimmedari. Most importantly there are kids involved. It's not the same. V will be pulled towards his kids first and by extension Sai. She won't be able to refuse him either.

3. It is increasingly looking like Shruti rehash. Yes. But again not exactly. In Shruti track Sai was inclined to fight for V. She accepted everything just for this. Sai the woman and Sai the mother has been hurt too much this time. The inclination to fight for the love has gone completely. And she is not a woman to go after a married man. So even if that woman is P, Sai won't save V.

4. The kids will be the catalyst. If V ka reformation has to happen it has to happen through the kids. His not consummating the marriage with P, adopting a kid and regaining his life for a bit and with Saavis impending reveal, he will be affected massively.

I love the fact that both Saavi and Vinu are strong kids with better sense of right and wrong. They are the ones who will take him to the task. Knowingly and unknowingly. If Saavi ka reveal happens first, then V won't be able to claim Saavi until he resolves his marriage issue with P. And P won't let him, blackmail him with Vinu. Till Vinu ka reveal happens, V will be suffering from unable to call his own blood as his. And that's his punishment. His Karma working. 2 parivar has to happen for him to realise this.

5. CNwasis are utter nonsense. It's pointless to get worked up on them. They are going to fall flat when the truths are revealed. Sai holds all the Trump cards even Vinu.

6. With the surrogacy unfortunately, P has become an indelible mark on Sairat relationship. Even if she dies or willingly goes away, her contribution in giving birth to Vinu cannot be negated. It's a matter of debate whether it was needed or not. But that's the creative call they took by giving her a successful pregnancy. She is here to stay. Also like I mentioned few days back, P has managed to gaslight everyone, so unless she commits a bigger crime in her insecurity or over confidence (alone without any co culprit), her status (iss Ghar main jaade) bahot majboot hai. Sai and Karishma can never be able to compete with her. It's a very real phenomenon. One bahu is always fav in any household and she gets extra leeway.

7. Sai is at her strongest mentally. She is suffering because she loved V and he betrayed her. And that betrayal has made her build up walls around her which would take massive efforts from V to break down. This is not Shruti track Wali Sai, even if mental illness theory is proved. If the makers decide to make her meek again, it will lead to TRP loss. Don't think with the amount of crime done against Sai, anyone would accept her happily going back without retribution.


In all this V as always has taken the most brunt, but the onus lies on him now, more than ever. I will wait for few episodes post Saavi ka reveal... if it doesn't look like he is changing... then it's a lost cause.

The writing was gone long back, so has the direction... there are massive bloopers hard to ignore and mostly there is no head or tail, no continuity.


But VP doesn't seem happening. Not after 630+ episodes. Thats stupidity. Pure and utter stupidity. 😔


I hope I am not sounding too foolish to hope for all this.


The reason I am addicted to ghum is majorly because of the forum members. Even if I don't watch episode, I cannot resist dropping by on forum.

So if the people like all of you leave the show and the forum, it would be very easy to de addict from the show. 🤗


This week is going to be massively triggering. We all need each other to keep our sanity up. 😳



You have mentioned all the points clearly Moor 👏🏻💥. Yes this time makers can't make Sai meek, it would destroy whatever she has built during these leap years! That time she was just a wife, but here she's a mother. No matter what a mother can never take any BS towards her kids silently, Sai tho wouldn't at all! She would fight tooth & nail to protect savi from chavan rakshas 💥. She mi8 melt a bit at the end after everything gets sorted, just for the kids sake. Usse zyaada nahi. Eagerly waiting to see virat tasting his own bitter medicine when he won't be able to claim his own blood. Karma shld bite these ppl soon in such a place where it hurts terribly 🤚

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: JinglesRead

Haan Bahot logo ke saath yahi karthe hain . Unka apna Ek gang hain agar woh log triggering prediction bhi kare toh analysis hain agar baki log kuch kahe toh negativity, gaslighting ho jata hain .

Virat ka abuse ko uska pyar aur possessiveness bolte hai kya wo triggering nahi hai for people who dont tolerate any kind of abuse from their husbands? Har galat harkat ko ye dikha dena ki kaise wo sairat ke favour me hai

Ek had tak ship thik hai you can do it too lekin agar kisi ka view alag hai to wo negative hai why? Public forum hai you can write anything you want about characters

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Moor278

Read few opinions...

My understanding stems from this...

Sai ka suffering is a given. It drives TRP because the TRP public (predominantly female) feel vindicated when Sai wins. So uspe blame game, rona Dhona, taane baazi hogi hi... V might lead the team himself

But for them family, kids and motherhood is of prime importance. All of which points to Sai.


That said... I am still seeing the story in the broader context.

1. I have made peace with V as an obnoxious individual who is loyal to Sai only physically. That's what the makers been trying to show since the leap. And while the 'one organ theory' is now seen as a joke, it is the only relevant aspect for V. Yes they have reduced a character, a human being to just his physical needs. Sad as it is 😔

2. Even though it's a rehash of Ghum 1.0... it's not... because P is really married to V. Sai is not really an outsider, neither just zimmedari. Most importantly there are kids involved. It's not the same. V will be pulled towards his kids first and by extension Sai. She won't be able to refuse him either.

3. It is increasingly looking like Shruti rehash. Yes. But again not exactly. In Shruti track Sai was inclined to fight for V. She accepted everything just for this. Sai the woman and Sai the mother has been hurt too much this time. The inclination to fight for the love has gone completely. And she is not a woman to go after a married man. So even if that woman is P, Sai won't save V.

4. The kids will be the catalyst. If V ka reformation has to happen it has to happen through the kids. His not consummating the marriage with P, adopting a kid and regaining his life for a bit and with Saavis impending reveal, he will be affected massively.

I love the fact that both Saavi and Vinu are strong kids with better sense of right and wrong. They are the ones who will take him to the task. Knowingly and unknowingly. If Saavi ka reveal happens first, then V won't be able to claim Saavi until he resolves his marriage issue with P. And P won't let him, blackmail him with Vinu. Till Vinu ka reveal happens, V will be suffering from unable to call his own blood as his. And that's his punishment. His Karma working. 2 parivar has to happen for him to realise this.

5. CNwasis are utter nonsense. It's pointless to get worked up on them. They are going to fall flat when the truths are revealed. Sai holds all the Trump cards even Vinu.

6. With the surrogacy unfortunately, P has become an indelible mark on Sairat relationship. Even if she dies or willingly goes away, her contribution in giving birth to Vinu cannot be negated. It's a matter of debate whether it was needed or not. But that's the creative call they took by giving her a successful pregnancy. She is here to stay. Also like I mentioned few days back, P has managed to gaslight everyone, so unless she commits a bigger crime in her insecurity or over confidence (alone without any co culprit), her status (iss Ghar main jaade) bahot majboot hai. Sai and Karishma can never be able to compete with her. It's a very real phenomenon. One bahu is always fav in any household and she gets extra leeway.

7. Sai is at her strongest mentally. She is suffering because she loved V and he betrayed her. And that betrayal has made her build up walls around her which would take massive efforts from V to break down. This is not Shruti track Wali Sai, even if mental illness theory is proved. If the makers decide to make her meek again, it will lead to TRP loss. Don't think with the amount of crime done against Sai, anyone would accept her happily going back without retribution.


In all this V as always has taken the most brunt, but the onus lies on him now, more than ever. I will wait for few episodes post Saavi ka reveal... if it doesn't look like he is changing... then it's a lost cause.

The writing was gone long back, so has the direction... there are massive bloopers hard to ignore and mostly there is no head or tail, no continuity.


But VP doesn't seem happening. Not after 630+ episodes. Thats stupidity. Pure and utter stupidity. 😔


I hope I am not sounding too foolish to hope for all this.


The reason I am addicted to ghum is majorly because of the forum members. Even if I don't watch episode, I cannot resist dropping by on forum.

So if the people like all of you leave the show and the forum, it would be very easy to de addict from the show. 🤗


This week is going to be massively triggering. We all need each other to keep our sanity up. 😳

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: mysticriver


But I'm sure the ml didn't come across devoid of integrity or looked ambiguous for sure at any point. Jab ml hee karta hai aisa toh dusron se kiya expect kare.

well Neil was a white character…everything he did was fair and justified…but karthik had shades…like when he stole his sisters baby, questioned his wife’s fidelity , etc.. Virat here…I don’t know much as I haven’t seen his past deeds..but he seems to have shades as well 🤷🏻‍♀️..
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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Indira1211

well Neil was a white character…everything he did was fair and justified…but karthik had shades…like when he stole his sisters baby, questioned his wife’s fidelity , etc.. Virat here…I don’t know much as I haven’t seen his past deeds..but he seems to have shades as well 🤷🏻‍♀️..


But I'm sure Karthik didn't have this much closeness with the 3rd angle which is being shown in Ghum.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: mysticriver


But I'm sure Karthik didn't have this much closeness with the 3rd angle which is being shown in Ghum.

But he too tried to move on ....but I don't believe he loved naira...if so he won't have married sirat

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Anilaanu

But he too tried to move on ....but I don't believe he loved naira...if so he won't have married sirat


That was with his wife's humshakal. It's still better than moving on with a 3rd angle imo. Sirat was the FL after Naira. I'm sure he didn't try moving on with Vedika girl.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Indira1211

well Neil was a white character…everything he did was fair and justified…but karthik had shades…like when he stole his sisters baby, questioned his wife’s fidelity , etc.. Virat here…I don’t know much as I haven’t seen his past deeds..but he seems to have shades as well 🤷🏻‍♀️..

Until sirat track, kartik was goals. He stole his sister's baby because his sister went into coma after giving birth, naira baby was born dead. So out of no choice he had to say his sister baby is naira's. He choosed be husband over brother at that time so that he don't loose naira. He was guilty throughout the track for doing it to his sister. Fidelity track also very convincing. Because he had accident, naira was continuously hiding stuff from him, his questioning her was not out of the intention to tarnish her character, his intention was naira may choose other man who is better than him as he became incapable after accident. It was his pure insecurity. The way he asks that question by laying his head on her lap was heartwrenching. He immediately regretted questioning her and believed her without any proof. Even after marrying vedika, he never crossed his limits with vedika. No emotional or physical bond with her. If not for his dadi emotional blackmail, he would never married her. He quickly corrected his decision by choosing naira over vedika.


While virat ousted sai at midnight without caring for her safety

Ran behind her on road by questioning her character which caused her accident

Always stand with pakhi, teamed up with pakhi many times to insult sai

Expected sai to be okay with him allowing pakhi at odd hours to their room

He starved sai many times.

Stood silent when pakhi gave her death threats, slapped her during pregnancy.

Abandoned her when he got to know she is infertile

He was the man who said hmm when pakhi said give me ur clothes, I will pack it in my bag along with my clothes when they are supposed to go to ladak trip alone. That is when he is Sai's husband, she is samrat's wife.

He called sai orphan many times despite knowing she became orphan because of him.

Always bitch about her with his bhabis.

He pretended to be Shruti husband infront of society and expected sai to blindly trust him.

Always allow his family to abuse her but quickly comes to pakhi's defence when any one talks against her.

He wanted sai to forgive pakhi despite knowing she sent goons to harm sai and mislead surrogacy process.

He believed pakhi words that sai will harm her and her unborn baby. So he kept her away from pakhi pregnancy while he himself enjoyed the period.

He mercilessly snatched vinu from sai and gave him to pakhi.

When sai wanted to leave by saying she can't live with a criminal like pakhi, he called her names like family breaker, orphan, burden.

He allows other woman like Shruti, pakhi hug him, kiss him, change his t shirt despite knowing they harbour feelings for him.

And shamelessly denies when someone talks about their feelings for him by saying all of it was lie.

The list is so big.

Virat is moral less, character less, useless character who can't even stop his family from abusing a little girl.

Comparing him with other male leads is insult to other male leads.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Anilaanu

But he too tried to move on ....but I don't believe he loved naira...if so he won't have married sirat

Some one moved on doesn't mean they didn't love their previous partner. Moving on in life is inevitable. In Kartik case, sirat being naira humshakaal made it easy for him to move on.

Virat too has full rights to move on. But the woman he wanted to move on shows his character. He wanted to move on with the woman who ruined his first wife's life. But alas he never considered she ruined Sai's life. For him pakhi is always mature, understanding woman despite all her crimes.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: mysticriver


But I'm sure Karthik didn't have this much closeness with the 3rd angle which is being shown in Ghum.

Kartik vedika hardly had any scenes despite living in same house as husband and wife. They don't even share room. Kartik was like lost puppy behind naira the whole time. He was always try to provoke her by asking her fark padta hai, their seperation. The longing, desperation was so evident in his eyes and actions. They used to have tons of trip and fall, eye locks in single episode. Vedika was used for the scenes where she spots Kartik with naira and make fuss infront of dadi. Kartik was angry with naira for deliberately hiding about her being alive from him and hiding his son from him. His first reaction after seeing naira alive was pure happiness. Kartik got great monologues, his actions showed where his heart lies. He was never a pendulum.

Ml marrying third angle is not new in ITV but the execution makes huge difference.

Abhi from Kumkum bhagya too married tanu after leap, but he don't even share room with her. Loved pragya despite thinking she is someone else's wife.

Emotional bond is greater than physical bond. So makers mostly never show ml having emotional bond with third angle no matter how much ml hates fl. But ghum is exemption.

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