Triggering episode full of toxicity - Page 45

Originally posted by: Coolmeg

I was literally about to write this… Slow death to us and slow death to Sairat…

not sure if I allowed to write here … I watched a clip of Bade ache lagte hai…. What amazing dialogues!!!

Not only amazing dialogues, but superb acting by the leads. Even that kid is doing a fantastic job. These days BALH2 episodes are so good mujhe samajh mei nahi aata log Ghum crap ko kaise dekh rahe hei. Anywz cheapness sells. Ekta mata ne kaha tha.

I am sorry if I hv hurt any fans sentiments . But we audience should blame ourselves. We watch this cringe and give such high trps. That's why makers think they hv got the liberty to show any cringe. Chahe woh EMA ya bigamy, child abuse kuch bhi dikhao. Audience toh dekhegi.

Originally posted by: Swaydheenta

I agree, that they need to clear virat's status and emotions towards pakhi.

Otherwise, the parallel Tracks might become unbearable for lot of people.

As, we don't have amnesia and this thing that virat is married to pakhi will keep pinching us.

See, i don't see this happening, anytime soon.

The reason is to keep the audience hooked, confused and guessing. They want people to guess and keep talking about virat's emotions towards pakhi.

We'll get SaiRat scenes, but i fear that they'll give virat pakhi also.

Maybe, virat will go and spend time at sai's place and with savi but Will also come to cn and spend time with this family.

So, both sai and pakhi.

People will be confused, infuriated.

Don't know, but I'll be infuriated.

I'm currently calm, because i think that once savi's truth is out, he'll completely shift TOWARDS sai, but with this 2 PARIVAAR PROMO and 2 family thing happening,

I guess, it'll be Virat's tussle.

He'll not be completely romantically involved with pakhi or sai. None of them.

But, will keep the relationship with both, for his kids.

After vinayak running away and obviously SAVI'S identity will not be revealed in front of everyone. And, savi will not know that virat is her father.

So, virat wouldn't also want to snatch Vinu's happiness and they'll assume that vinayak will get hurt, if savi's paternity is revealed. So, for vinayak also, he'll not completely leave pakhi and accept SAI AND SAVI AND VINAYAK, AS THE ONLY FAMILY.

Because, virat is TIED TO PAKHI, only due to vinayak.

And, that's why he won't be able to leave her.

So, i don't see his feelings being shown in a clear way, anytime soon.

Not even after savi's paternity revelation.

He'll keep shifting between two families. Even after sai and savi enter CHAWAN NIWAS.

BUT, THIS IS EXTREMELY BAD. THEY CANNOT KEEP SHOWING VIRAT HAVING 2 WIVES.

AND, SAI BEING AN OUTSIDER, WHILE PAKHI LIVES IN HER HOUSE AND ROOM, FREELY.

This is totally BIGAMY.

Yes, romantic feelings might not be involved but it's still BIGAMY.

And, if they don't clear about virat's feelings and who's the ACTUAL WOMAN in his life and that, he might not be able to leave pakhi, but there should be ONLY ONE WIFE.

And, pakhi shouldn't be legally attached to VIRAT.

Showing two wives in the name of kids, is unacceptable.

See, GHUM has never followed Laws, but i don't sai to remain like an Outsider.

Pakhi shouldn't be anything. Nothing at all.

Just a woman who helped in adoption, until vinayak's paternity is revealed.

With 2 PARIVAAR and savi not knowing, her baba's identity.

I feel, that virat will have TWO WIVES for sometime/months.

And, sai won't REGAIN HER STATUS AS THE ONLY WIFE OF VIRAT.

Pakhi will also live like a SECOND WIFE of virat chawan.

He'll be soft to sai, spend time at her house, we'll get happy.

But, He'll also be soft with pakhi in CN.

And, we'll be confused ki yeh ho kya raha hai?

We will constantly get this switch. Because they will stretch this track with 2 wives for a while if not for 6+ months. And to keep the audience hooked they will keeping showing V shifting to each sides. Confusing us and keeping the suspense alive. They showed us Sai-V scenes, now they are focussing more on V-P.

I agree, this is bigamy. With the marriage status not cleared and P still living in that house as V's wife, it is bigamy. Unfortunately a lot of shows are presenting such tracks and there is nothing much we can do. If illegal adoption is trivial issue, then bigamy is nothing.

If nothing else, they should have Sai living in that house with her status as wife clear. But unfortunately this is what they will show to bring in cringe.

So I will only swing in for Sai, Savi and Vinu scenes. V...i don't know. My restricted vocabulary on abuses is falling short!

P I have failed to find words long back.

Trust me its not just us…. You should see Kishori aka BK ka interview on sbs gnt..the BTS when Sai enters for this party… it’s hilarious she isn’t even able to complete a sentence. That tells you that actors feelings about this too…. It was absolutely funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣

So many actors have mentioned that sometimes they don’t agree to the characterisation but it is still a part of their job

Originally posted by: JinglesRead

apne sahi kahan . Kaun decide kartha hain ki kya negative post , kya positive hain , kya triggering hain aur Kaunsa prediction post karni chaiye ya nahiin . Sab apne convenience se badla dete hain . Ek Chota sa example kal Maine kaha shayad Virat rose dega Pakhi ko Sai ke aane ke bad bhi . Tab mein negative ban gaya par aaj khud wahi log yeh discuss kar rahe hain aur unka Ek dost ne yeh kaha tab problem nahiin huva . Apne ke liye ek rule aur bak ke liye dura rule .

Aaj muje ek prediction pad kar Bahot hi uncomfortable huva aur triggering laga . Maine toh nahiin kaha ki woh member negativity spread kar rahi hain kyunki muje acha nahiin laga . Ignore kiya jab ki Bahot hi triggering hain kaise biagamy ko normalize karthe hain .

I do not talk here one day i witness a child being abused and I was replying to their flawed biological logics of surrogacy affecting Vinayak negatively from that day to today diffrence is visible. Vinayak is not affected because of surrogacy when I said this a person told another one to stop talking to a board ya jo bhi and people found it funny merko bole ki thread fun ke liye hai morality ke liye nahi fir parson khud rok rahe wahi words use karke jo maine kiya tha ki dont abuse kids

Our view is invalided as we do not write bhar bhar ke essay and do not sing praises of their essay

Originally posted by: Coolmeg

Trust me its not just us…. You should see Kishori aka BK ka interview on sbs gnt..the BTS when Sai enters for this party… it’s hilarious she isn’t even able to complete a sentence. That tells you that actors feelings about this too…. It was absolutely funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣

You mean she is not happy with the way BK behaves with Sai???

Hota hi hoga... who in the right mind would accept this.

Also note Bharati ka reply few days back. Even she is feeling bad that she is anti Sai now. 😔

See it's one thing to be a grey character but it's another to be stupid. Paise ke liye ye log karte hai... but then it's just kaam chalau.

Anyway, it is a daily soap... has to run for more episodes... agar sab clear Kar diya to roj Naya drama kahan se layenge.

ITV families main jitni takleefe hoti hai utni real life main to nahi hoti... atleast ek hi family aur ek hi couple ke saath

If there is no Tamasha tomorrow na, I am myself going to Chavan Niwas to create one.

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

If there is no Tamasha tomorrow na, I am myself going to Chavan Niwas to create one.

Let me know i will also accompany you.

Tamasha chalega, bhai par ye cringe thoda kam karlo. Woh aate ki bori nahi jheli jaati.

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

If there is no Tamasha tomorrow na, I am myself going to Chavan Niwas to create one.

All will do tamasha except P. She's complex positive.

Originally posted by: Moor278

Read few opinions...

My understanding stems from this...

Sai ka suffering is a given. It drives TRP because the TRP public (predominantly female) feel vindicated when Sai wins. So uspe blame game, rona Dhona, taane baazi hogi hi... V might lead the team himself

But for them family, kids and motherhood is of prime importance. All of which points to Sai.

That said... I am still seeing the story in the broader context.

1. I have made peace with V as an obnoxious individual who is loyal to Sai only physically. That's what the makers been trying to show since the leap. And while the 'one organ theory' is now seen as a joke, it is the only relevant aspect for V. Yes they have reduced a character, a human being to just his physical needs. Sad as it is 😔

2. Even though it's a rehash of Ghum 1.0... it's not... because P is really married to V. Sai is not really an outsider, neither just zimmedari. Most importantly there are kids involved. It's not the same. V will be pulled towards his kids first and by extension Sai. She won't be able to refuse him either.

3. It is increasingly looking like Shruti rehash. Yes. But again not exactly. In Shruti track Sai was inclined to fight for V. She accepted everything just for this. Sai the woman and Sai the mother has been hurt too much this time. The inclination to fight for the love has gone completely. And she is not a woman to go after a married man. So even if that woman is P, Sai won't save V.

4. The kids will be the catalyst. If V ka reformation has to happen it has to happen through the kids. His not consummating the marriage with P, adopting a kid and regaining his life for a bit and with Saavis impending reveal, he will be affected massively.

I love the fact that both Saavi and Vinu are strong kids with better sense of right and wrong. They are the ones who will take him to the task. Knowingly and unknowingly. If Saavi ka reveal happens first, then V won't be able to claim Saavi until he resolves his marriage issue with P. And P won't let him, blackmail him with Vinu. Till Vinu ka reveal happens, V will be suffering from unable to call his own blood as his. And that's his punishment. His Karma working. 2 parivar has to happen for him to realise this.

5. CNwasis are utter nonsense. It's pointless to get worked up on them. They are going to fall flat when the truths are revealed. Sai holds all the Trump cards even Vinu.

6. With the surrogacy unfortunately, P has become an indelible mark on Sairat relationship. Even if she dies or willingly goes away, her contribution in giving birth to Vinu cannot be negated. It's a matter of debate whether it was needed or not. But that's the creative call they took by giving her a successful pregnancy. She is here to stay. Also like I mentioned few days back, P has managed to gaslight everyone, so unless she commits a bigger crime in her insecurity or over confidence (alone without any co culprit), her status (iss Ghar main jaade) bahot majboot hai. Sai and Karishma can never be able to compete with her. It's a very real phenomenon. One bahu is always fav in any household and she gets extra leeway.

7. Sai is at her strongest mentally. She is suffering because she loved V and he betrayed her. And that betrayal has made her build up walls around her which would take massive efforts from V to break down. This is not Shruti track Wali Sai, even if mental illness theory is proved. If the makers decide to make her meek again, it will lead to TRP loss. Don't think with the amount of crime done against Sai, anyone would accept her happily going back without retribution.

In all this V as always has taken the most brunt, but the onus lies on him now, more than ever. I will wait for few episodes post Saavi ka reveal... if it doesn't look like he is changing... then it's a lost cause.

The writing was gone long back, so has the direction... there are massive bloopers hard to ignore and mostly there is no head or tail, no continuity.

But VP doesn't seem happening. Not after 630+ episodes. Thats stupidity. Pure and utter stupidity. 😔

I hope I am not sounding too foolish to hope for all this.

The reason I am addicted to ghum is majorly because of the forum members. Even if I don't watch episode, I cannot resist dropping by on forum.

So if the people like all of you leave the show and the forum, it would be very easy to de addict from the show. 🤗

This week is going to be massively triggering. We all need each other to keep our sanity up. 😳

I agree with you Moor.

The points you have highlighted are true. However, these very points like a woman suffering, loyalty & love being measured only on physical terms is so shallow and regressive. And this is what is most disturbing. They are showing such disgusting things in the name of entertainment and creativity.

I have often been called out for my extreme "Feminism" How much ever I dislike the usage of that term. But that says my state of my mind when I watch such stuff. The show definitely taught me a different level of patience and acceptance.

I have mentioned this a lot of times earlier..just like you, it is the forum and the you all that makes me come back to the show. Or else I have reached the brink of "goodbye" quite a few times as the show is purely toxic.

So when I can't feel positive about the episode I steer clear and depend completely on the updates. You guys keep it worthwhile. Or else the show would have died for me long back.