Mental illness theory (Read at the risk of getting disappointed) - Page 17

Nicely explained.

The problem is 'marriage' itself for me. It comes with lot of expectations. Lets say Pakhi is truly changed, regrets her mistakes etc. Even then him 'moving on' with her at some point in the time, even say when he is 50 years old is betrayal to Sai's and Samrat's memories. I hope they will clarify on his marriage with Pakhi. It is unpleasant, at any point of time. THere is too much past and baggage for him to give her that space and identity.

While I understand this is necessary for the story, they still could have avoided the marriage part.

V is seeing P as a changed person. Whether P has really changed or not, for now only P knows. He never realized the effect of the vaada he gave P on Samrat and Sai. He didnt feel he had wronged them. Yes he is married to P, but he never considered them as husband-wife, just as friends and Vinu’s parents. For him, he didnt betray Sai and Samrat.

I also feel marriage was not necessary. The complex marriage article really pissed me off. The deal marriage was his kiya dhara and again complex marriage. He has not learnt his lesson, hopefully he will learn it now. I got my ‘optimism’ back because of moor only. I still believe he will never move forward in his relationship with P as husband and wife. If I was proven wrong, I will take a break from this show for a week🤪.

The Virat I want for Sai is the one who is helping Pakhi, not falling for her manipulations and never forgave her for her mistakes. He raises his son like Sai wanted them to and may be move forward with a woman who will truly stand by him and understand him. I am ok with that.

We have to wait and see what this marriage is actually.

exactly. instead of "marriage" if they retained the famous "dosti" stuff of V-PP this time , it'd been better story wise. Showing him care from afar as an obligation because of his guilt towards her state would have been fine without the cringe that the label of marriage involves because even if namesake, marriage is not to be brushed away as "casual". They could have shown CN and PP try very hard to force Vinu to see her as a mother and call her aai but he only goes as far as "mumma". CN folks pushing V to remarry - and choosing PP for him now because she is reformed and ideal bahu instead of showing them already married would have been good. thats why I am so pissed off that they didnt use any creativity or even other ITV cliches but just jumped the gun and showed some BS in the name of drama to keep the triangle alive. All this honeymoon talk, sharing bedroom, handholding, him being all tender , consoling, concerned, supportive and soft with her, this stuff is hard to brush away and make audience sympathize with V no matter how much distance he may maintain. We needed to see that V isnt at all interested in having any other wife- that his wife and love was and is and always will be Sai irrespective of alive/dead! because thats what soulmates are! the whole premise of the show is the fact that Sairat are opposite people but meant to be together and how they navigate things to always find their way to each other. showing V as "married" to PP really dents his image in an irreparable way. and they really need to start showing us some stuff from the past soon a\to explain why everyone has amnesia about PPs criminal deeds, Vinu-PP distance/ discomfort ka reason, V marrying PP ka reason.

I really want PP to be an evil mastermind even though her acting chops will make it tough to believe that coz she looks and behaves like someone with an exceedingly low IQ! I had a wild theory which I still hope could be true where she pretends to love Vinu in front of all including V but secretly tortures him and Vinu is too scared to tell anyone...but Sai figures out that PP has been abusive to Vinu and exposes her! now that will be an awesome twist.

I wanted the same too. But thats not what we are getting😭. He went down during surrogacy, and has yet to rise up, instead went lower with complex marriage. The only thing holding him for now is adopting Vinu.

We can come up with different theories, but only the makers know the reality. How long we will have to wait also only they know.

If it is indeed the same theory, then I would really want him to reveal the truth to Sai. She is a doc, and a very considerate and compassionate one at that. Someone mature to keep professional and personal life separate. Jagtap being the true example.

Absolutely agree with you.

My only addition to this theory was that she orchestrated Vinu into V's life. She knows of Vinu's true identity. She had challenged Sai that her son will call her 'Maa". And it has come true. But I hope Karma hits her when despite having the tag of being Vinu's mother, Vinu ends up calling Sai as "Aai" in front of her. The point is, Sai will not know that Vinu is her biological child. For that either she will have to feel that hunch, or P should show her true colors. And I too felt that V connected with Vinu, and P got him home, and won over the Chavans. And V will be always indebted to her for it. And then she slyly played her way into the marriage. I also have an inkling that Vinu knows something about P's obsession..probably something about her role forcing V into the marriage.

And I do feel P's evil side will first come in front of Sai. Just like during surrogacy, she was threatening and challenging Sai when no one was around. She maintained her false appearance. With the family in her control and V bound to her due to his farz, she will feel invincible. And what fun if she does not even let the opponent know that she is being played and is losing. So she will reveal herself to Sai. Exactly why I feel all the P and Sai face offs will be repeated. Especially the one, where P is trying to walk into V's room after SH track and Sai stops her saying that she is still his wife.

P will have stronger dialogues and Sai will be at the receiving end due to the dynamics. Ashwini will only be facilitating this by supporting P.

Sam had said that V and Sai should have 2 kids..a boy and a girl. You have read that promo well. Each child looking for what they are lacking in their lives. When Savi is pulling V and P it is symbolic of her desire for a happy family with her Baba and Aai where V is missing. Vinu wants a family too, but for him it lacks Aai. P hasn't been able to fill that role, and he is getting Sai in to fill that void. I'm not sure if you read my take on the Bappa's family.

Bappa is in form of Vinu and Savi respectively. Kartikeya is missing in the happy family. Because each is unaware of the existence of the other. And once they come together, Kartikeya is lost. While they have Vinu, his identity is still hidden. So for now, he is not in the picture.

I have been stuck on the Karma aspect right from the beginning. P has not got her dues. And the same case is with the Chavans. P has to show her darker side and needs to be exposed. For the Chavans to realise their mistakes and for P to be punished. Though I was also, considering it as a parallel to SH, where V was abandoned and here Sai will be, I don't know how long this whole track will run. Might just become very difficult to watch, till we at least get some good scenes and a ray of hope!

Sai feels connected to Vinu from the first meet itself. She reasoned it out as having the same name as Vinu. She will probably doubt Vinu is their son but when told that he is adopted, the connection she felt with Vinu will probably raise an alarm. I am still two minds about P knowing Vinu’s identity. For now, I am taking the atoot rishta between V and Vinu as the reason V adopted him.

Sai did not fall for P’s apology and now things are exactly the way she said it will be if P stays in CN. Even with her mask on, Sai will be able to read P. But I am aligned with msin’s view, Sai will not return to CN with P there, especially as V’s wife. She has signed up for a bigger cause in Kankavli. V will probably take transfer there for Savi. Probably with Vinu’s real identity out, Sai will fight for him.

Originally posted by: Nja91

Imo, Sai cant go back to him- after he married PP in ANY capacity - fake or real until he in the very least apologizes, acknowledges that he was wrong to do everything he has done and has made many poor decisions. the point is that even if the marriage is a compromise or out of majboori and not even legal- let say no papers were signed- it is still valid in the eyes of the world. in public eye and in the eyes of the family PP and V ARE married and they even have a child- biological nahi bhi ho, there is a child involved whom they are coparenting. Vinu's school and hospital records have them as husband-wife and parents. they are perceived by society as a couple. they are sharing a room. they are sharing a life. that child calls V father and PP mother. period. so when sai returns and sees this- how is she to recover from that knowledge and buy that he did this all out of "majboori" and on "humanitarian" grounds and that he still loves her?! he placed the health of a criminal above the fact thats she wronged his wife and also him to some extent and ruined their life to the extent that Sai was considered dead. and its not even like its life/death situation. pp mental illness can be tackled in many ways apart from his majboori to fake marry her and coparent a child together. he has LOST Sai FOREVER because of this woman and he still feels the need to help her?! if Sai was so important to him then why does his soft corner for PP and her manipulations win over his feelings for Sai. this heart/mind mein jagah sirf Sai ki hai is a farce because ultimately that is something we cannot really test also. what if Sai had really died and Savi didnt exist. what was the long term plan here from Vs side? if PP had been fully cured some day, then would they break up/divorce and give Vinu a broken family? looking at V's personality on the show I have no doubt that if Sai were really dead then in a few years he'd really move on. First friendship, then companionship, then love and lust too. He always had attraction towards her, he fell for her "looks" and what she projected her personality as and even now he genuinely seems to respect her "contributions" and "sacrifices" and "commitment, love" towards Vinu and his family. so he no longer even holds any grudges towards her of being responsible for Sai's heartache and suffering, of manipulating him into mistrusting Sai and breaking Sai, of making Sai leave forever. because he has had not one dialogue even in a mind voice of saying perhaps this is payback for what they both did to Sai.

V already knows from the deal marriage thing with Sai that theres no such thing. A marriage is to be either nibhaoed or ended. If you marry even as a deal, feelings do get involved from one side or both sides. if he was only feeling guilt and humanity waale feelings for PP then it was important for him to realize that being in her life as a husband and a friend was not the way to help! especially given her history and obsession with him to this extent, enabling her to see him as her husband is the worst thing one can do.

Forgiving PP or feeling guilt or sympathy towards her state does not require him blurring the boundaries of their relationship.

V would have been the eternal lover and truly mahaan if he had resisted all compulsions and emotional manipulations and never even for namesake given another woman a place in his life and in his bedroom. he could have helped PP from afar but never been able to forgive her even if her repentance was genuine and she was suffering from a disease because his love for Sai supersedes everything else. He'd been an eternal lover if he had punished himself by never experiencing the joy of parenthood because he felt that he took away that chance from Sai. He'd have been an eternal lover if no amount of pressure could make him get the " shrine" of his room and space with Sai from getting contaminated with PP's presence.

Sai has "forgiven" JM in a sense, but she has maintained very clear physical and emotional boundaries with him. She does not allow him to gift Savi things or into the house even for ganpati darshan. She also does not allow him to get involved in her matters, her issues. It'd be convenient for her to allow JM to handle Gulabrao especially with his prior gunda history. JM knows how to tackle Gulab. Still she is very clear about the boundaries.

if roles were reversed, would V accept Sai and go back if she claimed that she thought he was dead in an accident and then a majboori required her to marry another guy - the same guy who perhaps made his life hell and also has adopted and is coparenting a child with that guy. would he accept it if Sai claims that despite it all, only V has ever been in her heart and mind. V took SO long just to forgive Sai for something he played a MAJOR role in- shruti kaand. would he forgive and trust Sai if she had done everything he did. if he were in her shoes would he have been trusting enough to watch her spend time with another guy like he did during surrogacy. would he have been understanding enough to forgive her if she had snatched their baby out of his arms and handed it to another? would he have been cool with Sai going to bail out the person who assaulted him and he had to painstakingly collect evidence against to prove their crimes and then bringing that criminal home to live under the same roof.

We all know if the roles were reversed, Virat would not have forgiven Sai.

Bringing this thread to the front page...so that it's always visible...in case Vanku is hovering around😆