GHKPM WU & Daily episode discussion thread #65 - Page 101

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Vankar surprised me! If he is really following the adoption path. IF spoilers are usually not wrong, so going by that Virat adopted a kid, a male one...indeed he chose a good way to redeem Virat. In this process, he highlighted few worthy characteristics of Virat...his will to not surrender to situations, keep going and last but not the least, his compassion. If Sai is removed from his mental space, he operates at completely different level! 😃 I dont know what happens to him with Sai that he shows his darker side. He behaves so inhumane with her at times. The giver become taker, the lover becomes punisher. Could be that he has high expectations on her to accept him in his vulnerable form, be his cheerleader despite his weaknesses, and be dependent on him emotionally? It is almost like he is testing her love for him...by making mistakes deliberately and see if she would stick with him. Just saying.

As far as I read and in my limited understanding of this vast concept, The Karma theory works in a weird way. It is not always direct results that we reap from the deeds, but the results could be transformative. We dont see the tangible results, but see them in the way we live and perceive things. I dont know if Vankar has put so much thought into all this but the adoption angle is indeed interesting!

Virat tried to control every situation around HIS child's birth. It was atrocious in the way he handled it. The only parallel I could draw for his behavior is the ousting track. He failed as a police officer and a human being. I am leaving the husband part because they were not married in its full meaning. Later, he repeated the same thing while surrogacy. He was not being a husband, police officer and a good human being also. I say at human level also because he made Pakhi the surrogate, tying her to his family, not letting her to move on. He was too selfish to the level that he who preached about women empowerment and equality said Pakhi will find meaning by giving birth to his child. He fell too low in that episode. Utterly selfish, behaving like the God trying to control every single situation. He sidelined even his wife, her choices and her happiness to bring HIS child to this world. Whatever could be his reasons for that...but he failed in every level. The delivery scene also makes so much sense now! He brought the child into world fighting with the fate, he snatched it from the universe....

But ultimately he was made to understand that things do go out of control. He was grounded by life, taking away his two most valuable people in this world for whom he went against everything he believed, he went against his wife who cannot stand anything wrong, be it to her or anyone else. Sai is the personification of justice here and he abused her. He was denied justice. These are the immediate results of his Karma by actions.

However, Virat has been gathering some good Karma too for all his good deeds in the past. Having Sai as a life partner itself is a positive influence on him and his way of life. The fruits of those actions/intentions are seen in the way he leads his life, raising up after falling down. The way he finds a sense of purpose, corrects his mistakes in a bigger way. The child for whom he was so obsessed with, the woman who he wanted to possess/control at the cost of taking away her freedom/happiness both left him in despair but still he found hope in adopting another child! Who else but a person who realized his mistakes, understood the grand plan of universe and surrendered to the life can do it. The suffering he must have gone through is his healing process. If indeed Vinu is an adopted kid, Virat is half redeemed. He craved for his biological child, his own, his blood, the product of his love for his wife. But ended up adopting 'some' child who is not related to him in any way....that is a big shift of thought process there. If he was also thinking about his cruel words of calling Sai 'Anath' then it is his redemption at hurting her in worst possible way. His soul is healed by this adoption.

Ayesha's post yesterday where she said the daughter healed her soul stuck me hard. Both Virat and Sai are responsible for the loss of their child, in one way or the other. The parents' guilt when they lose their child due to their negligence is inexplainable, life draining. Now I can connect to Sai's no show after Vinu's death. Her guilt might have scarred her soul. It is not only being responsible for her only child's death, but also about taking away the fatherhood of her husband who she loved. It must be doubly taxing for her to accept her child's death and face her husband who she had known to be so desperate to get a child through her. She might have felt that she failed both of them. The person Sai is, she would take the responsibility for this mishap and stay away from any kind of happiness or hope that she might get by going back to her husband, now that she is pregnant again! These emotions are not translated in the episode, but I am hoping they will show later. Knowing that a child is growing inside her, it would have given her hope to live...steadily healing her soul. She still doesnt know what Virat might be feeling amidst this mishap, so when she sees him happy, as a wife she might MU Virat. But knowing what he has done, she might fall for the same person she fell for all these while, when she went back to him repeatedly after so many wrongdoings with her...his compassion and a person who will learn, raise and shine.

All this said, for a story...good Karma should yield tangible results. :) So they will find their Vinu back! The child, who is named after the first Guru, Vinayaka. He separated them to teach them valuable lessons of life and I am sure he will be the one who will orchestrate their union again. If Vankar thought about this all along, even naming him Vinayak then I should applaud him.

While Savi is the fruit of their love from their union and happiness, Vinayak is the symbol of their ever existing (jeeti jagti) love when separated 👍🏼

PS: Not sure if Vankar has put so much thought while writing these episodes. He serves us so much toxicity but this adoption news touched my heart. The thought itself gives such a positive feeling. I wish he is seriously putting his brains to use here and show us a good redemption track for Virat. But the Virat we know, still flips when Sai is around him. A big mystery why he does that 😆

You have read Virat so well. I think they do write and characterize the arc of ML well but when it comes to execution, trp business...gets ruined.

Hope the writers serve the karma thing properly. Virat will not blame Sai I think though the narrative suggests so. He may be angry that she hid news of savi. Savi will be the catalyst and Vinayak the instrument of sairat reunion.

Waiting for how Virat's redemption is planned. Hope they do justice to it as Virat's character has fallen so low it will be difficult to revive him.

Thanks! so nice of you.

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

let’s see kal pata chal hi jayega. Mostly they will co parent the child. But it makes no sense if the child is supposedly adopted. Patralekha cannot claim to raise this child.

Yeh sabse achha positive hai k mai virat k bache ki maa banana chahti thhi thought negate hoga

Originally posted by: Nirip

You have read Virat so well. I think they do write and characterize the arc of ML well but when it comes to execution, trp business...gets ruined.

Hope the writers serve the karma thing properly. Virat will not blame Sai I think though the narrative suggests so. He may be angry that she hid news of savi. Savi will be the catalyst and Vinayak the instrument of sairat reunion.

Waiting for how Virat's redemption is planned. Hope they do justice to it as Virat's character has fallen so low it will be difficult to revive him.

In KKhH that girl unites the actors...after she comes to the camp.

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

The real couple is here to stay whether people like it or not unless they themselves decide to quit. So might as well see what tracks can be woven around Sai Virat and Patralekha. As long Patralekha is far away from Sairat, I am all cool.

See I know they are here to stay but when they quit IF they quit, they will both quit together, why do you think Savi was brought in, they could have easily let sai be with vinayak or even alone and then meet etc

savi is kept for generation leap, and if the real couple leave they will plan exit for both char together only, I don't see Vankar doing us a favor.

Originally posted by: saa2929

See I know they are here to stay but when they quit IF they quit, they will both quit together, why do you think Savi was brought in, they could have easily let sai be with vinayak or even alone and then meet etc

savi is kept for generation leap, and if the real couple leave they will plan exit for both char together only, I don't see Vankar doing us a favor.

Yes if they quit and these guys may make them lead pair some of their other show. And Sai can become Savi maybe.

Originally posted by: Nirip

Yeh sabse achha positive hai k mai virat k bache ki maa banana chahti thhi thought negate hoga

P ka situation is unclear as of now. Dont think it will be disclosed tomm either.

Nobody knows about how V came across Vinu, if he has indeed adopted him or what has happened in CN in past 5 years.

Thats the carrot Vanku has dangled for all of us to keep watching.

But if indeed Vinu is adopted, I am happy about it.

P ka importance as surrogate mother who gave chirag is null and void. That was her indelible mark on Sairats life forever.

Also, looking at how BK and family ke notions are about bloodline and family honour, it doesnt look like they would have given love to Vinu.

So it would be a nice slap to them, that they had their waaris in front of them but they couldnt accept it because they were too obsessed with their archaic notions.

Even if it later turns out that adopted Vinu is real Vinu, it will be at a point where both Sai and V have met and are in his life together. Preferably sorted or atleast on the path to that. Even if not and with so much water under the bridge, them finding him again will bring them together.

P's connection to Vinu is severed the moment Sai left the house and now even if Vinu is back, he will have his biological mother with him, all the more stronger and better.

I think with Vinu, Sai's prophecy of atoot rishta with virat is being played

I am so touched by this adoption thing that I became emotional. I am so sure that Vankar will disillusion me. 🤔

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

ye bohot dicey hai. Ho sakta hai and nahi bhi. Toh jab hoga tab dekh lenge. And kal hi pata chal jayega ki Chavannis ka kya status hai.

Yes Vinayak may also tell Sai with whom he's living

. In CN or outside.