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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

Wanted to share a few things and have consolidated it all in this post. Just my views.

Virat told the family not because Sai had seen him but because of what he heard Sai tell Shivani. Her words made an impact. He did get upset that she was misunderstanding him yet again but he also understood that it would lead to more misunderstanding. He also understood that Sai was right that he wasn’t being fair with Samrat by hiding the cafe meet. He could make sense that Samrat will be hurt if he comes to know from someone else. He realised that he had made a similar misistake in the past too.

Sai had said that she wouldn’t tell it to anyone and it should be Virat who should share it with everyone and it dawned on him that she was right. Also, she said that he wouldn’t tell anyone.

Virat got upset that she thought he wouldn’t tell anyone because she thinks there was something between him and Pakhi and that he wants to hide it.

At the same time, Virat was reminded of the anniversary trip. Sai did tell him that he hid the truth about their trip from everyone and took her for the trip because he didn’t want anyone to know about it. She did have issues that he lied to everyone about it. He understood that Sai would be again thinking that he wouldn’t tell anyone because there is something going on between him and Pakhi and that is why he wouldn’t let anyone know that he met Pakhi at the cafe.

That was her claim about anniversary celebration as well.

He didn’t want that. He wanted to clear that confusion, the misunderstanding. He actually wanted to reveal the truth so that Sai comes to know that he won’t be hiding anything anymore. It was so that she understands that there is nothing between him and Pakhi. Yes, he lied today but he brought this truth out in front of the family so that Sai doesn’t misunderstand him hiding things anymore. Also so that Samrat doesn’t feel betrayed that he hid it from him yet again. He anyway did that by hiding Pakhi’s truth but that according to Virat is the right thing to do.

I hated that he hid it from Samrat. But the way I understand, when a person thinks that they are hiding it for someone’s good, they think that the lie is still okay. That is how I think Virat felt it is okay to hide Pakhi’s side of the story. What he didn’t think was that he was betraying Samrat by patching him up with a person who is obsessive about him, who wanted to start a life with him, who just wanted to be with him.


From what I understand about Virat, he thinks that if Pakhi gives a chance, she will be able to see who Samrat actually is and will be able to move on the way he did. He didn’t want to lose his brother, so he had to let him know that Pakhi is only a friend to him. He didn’t want to ruin the chances of Pakhi to start her life afresh so he hid the truth about her and also lied to Samrat when he asked Virat about Pakhi. He blatantly lied.

Virat saw how desperate Pakhi was at the cafe. He could see that she is still stuck in her past. He also heard from her that Samrat wanted to know her decision. He understood that Samrat wouldn’t mind giving her a chance. He knows that Samrat is a wonderful person who would be able to give her love which would change her feelings, which would help her move on from the past. He also feels guilty that he is the reason that Samrat walked out from his marriage. He thinks that by doing all this, things would fall back in place.


Having said all of these, it doesn’t change the fact that he actually lied to Samrat and betrayed him today.

He could have felt guilty, would have wanted Pakhi to understand Samrat but Virat needs to understand that honesty is very important in relationship.

I don’t even want to talk about what he spoke to Shivani bua. He had blatantly lied about Pakhi. His brother would have trusted him while making a decision to give Pakhi a chance. Whatever be his intentions, Samrat has all rights to know the truth before he takes the decision. Virat is no one to decide to hide such a big thing to make them give a chance. He has yet again done the same thing as in the past.

Sai ne sacchai ke raah pe chalna sikhaya right? What is this then? There is no justification to what he did today. He has failed.

Talking about his side of the truth was also lying only. Pakhi held his hands asking him something and he has once again hid things from Sai too. Sai doesn’t misunderstand him for any invalid reasons. He has kept the same reason alive by hiding one side of the truth even now. He has still not come clean. For one to trust, honesty is very important. I am sorry but Virat failed to be honest and has not been honest in the past too.


And about him calling Pakhi as his friend.

What friend? A person who wanted relationship with him? A person who tried to create misunderstanding between him and his wife and who was the reason his wife’s life was in danger? I can see the future Virat who would want to do what he feels is right by ignoring everything else. He is guilty, he has a sense of duty towards Pakhi, he made promises to Pakhi so he will continue to be her friend even after whatever she does.

Virat hasn’t understood the gravity of the situation. His instincts have been bad but even after Pakhi has been acting so desperate, he doesn’t think that Pakhi needs guidance and help. He doesn’t feel that she is acting crazy. His reaction at the cafe or during every talk between them shows how he finds her talks, her thoughts and expectations to be absurd, to be crazy. Even after knowing these, he is still not thinking that she is capable of anything now. He has seen what all she has done and is ignoring that. He will be facing the consequences of his own actions. Pakhi is obsessed with him and he shouldn’t be ignoring it at any cost. Pakhi needs help and guidance. Him getting her a chance with Samrat hiding the truth is not the right kind of help. She is not a teenager who has a crush on him or who is infatuated. She has been sharing about her feelings for quite sometime now. She has made herself clear to him throughout. Even if he failed to understand her in the past, he got to know ever since he returned from GC. In the recent meet, she has even shared about her wishes and her expectations. All of these should be looked at as something alarming. Had he replied to Samrat that Pakhi will answer his question, that would have been a different thing.

Samrat anyway deserves to know the truth. Virat’s style and way of handling things or situations could be different. He is a non confrontational person by nature. He likes to give solution rather than talking more about the problem. He preferred to confess and sort things out with Sai through actions rather than sharing about his past. He avoids unpleasant conversation. He is not good at voicing out his emotions and his thoughts, so has ended up taking an unusual route.

However he has to understand that his right, his decision need not be actually right.

What he thinks is right need not be right.

I still remember what he once told Sai. Tumhara sach aur mera sach alag ho sakta hai. It really was true. He was right. She knew just one part of the truth and misunderstood him. His truth was different from hers.


And now the truth that he presented in front of the whole family is different from what the actual truth is. They all were made to know just one part of the truth. Whatever be the reasons that he had, he did what he thought was right.

What is right to him, need not actually be right as per others. It need not be right at all. One has to know this and keep this in mind so that they don’t falter.

Nice analysis. I would have been okay with virat's half baked truth had he did it without giving pravachan about sach. Giving essay about truth while saying blatant lie is hypocrisy. And his explanation for hand holding to shivani was disgusting. Today he pretended himself as mahaan infront of everyone. Especially the part where he said he is taking transfer at the end of the episode as if he is sacrificing for samrakhi by taking transfer. Makers won't even show him being guilty for hiding truth from his brother instead he feels proud of himself as if he became satya harichandra by telling half baked information.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mages

some extend right & wrong too


He is right by informing the cafe meet so that no further MU is created & complicate things


He is desperate to mend things with his brother thus informs the truth


he doesn't the family & someone else to inform samrat abt the meet since shivani & sai friends knows abt the meet


so he is right in informing the truth


what is wrong here


he hide the main conversation that happened in the cafe


i don't care abt the family but he is keeping his bro in dark when he very well knows that didi has not moved on and is obsessed with him


yup he was trying to save his bro relationship under what basis hiding facts & lies


he is encouraginging unknownly towards didi's two timing


he did not clear MUs but instead create more mess in his bro's life


in tdys epi there is right & wrong too


half truth is disaster than real truth

If only virat tells samrat the truth a decision would have taken to divorce her and throw her out of the house


after knowing her obsessive nature he still maintain the friendship. Its like inviting the wolf in his den to eat his sheeps up🤦🏻‍♀️


as for sairat their relationship is not complicated its them who are making complicated and toxic actually. Is it so difficult to communicate and talk it out instead they assume craps and makes a stupid decison


honestly sairat relationship has no issues its them bringing didi commitment vaada deal all these nonsense in b/ w and create a mess out of their own lives and makes themselves miserable

Exactly. His intention to share about the cafe meet was right. He thought of clearing it from his side but he failed to realise that the only best way was to come clean about everything.


@bold He hasn’t understood it. He is underestimating the issue again.


I just wanted Samrat to be aware of the entire truth before he takes a decision.

About Sairat, it is going to go in circles anyway.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I agree with you Lakshmi...

I think this...He was selfish, delusional, manipulator and a hypocrite today...He is too emotional and loves Samrat in his own way.... I feel he just wants to appear righteous, wants to show to the family that whatever was there between him and Pakhi ended, exactly when he wont divulge.. and also in his mind he wants to believe that Pakhi would find love in Samrat and realise it was all infatuation..and in all this he would come out righteous.. BAS... He does not want to still look someone who was having even an emotional relationship with his Bhabhi...

He was a hypocrite today, but he generally is, he always thinks from his perspective..

Remember when the yoga instructor went all and all about how Virakhi looked great and then after knowing he is with his wife who is not Pakhi , she said you make a cute pair, he registered just that, he did not think that it could be said to compensate what has been said earlier..IN his mind they look good, in his mind he is love with Sai and he loves being told that they make a good pair, he gave that example to Sai, ki hume bhi cute bola tha when she talked about Yoga teacher's words...BAS JO MAIN SOCHTA HUN, WO AUTOMATICALLY SABKI SOCH HOGI.


And when it comes to Sai, he fails to see her insecurities and her issues in the way Pakhi behaves with him... Sai does not even have an issue if they are friends..Khair in all this, once they have confessed and are fine, will he let her know how Sai was always , always right about Pakhi's intentions towards him, about wanting a life with him until recently.. Would he come clean there, since he has shamed Sai and also let the family shame her and has always always called it BAKWAAS!!

Nahi because he only comes clean in places where there is no way out. Had Shivani not known about the meeting he would not have come clean..Baaki time bhai mere actions se samjh lo please...

Edited by asmi_joya - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

Nice analysis. I would have been okay with virat's half baked truth had he did it without giving pravachan about sach. Giving essay about truth while saying blatant lie is hypocrisy. And his explanation for hand holding to shivani was disgusting. Today he pretended himself as mahaan infront of everyone. Especially the part where he said he is taking transfer at the end of the episode as if he is sacrificing for samrakhi by taking transfer. Makers won't even show him being guilty for hiding truth from his brother instead he feels proud of himself as if he became satya harichandra by telling half baked information.

I know that sach dialogue made no sense. When it started I was like okay, it makes sense but when he lied, I was like what did you then mean by sacchai ki raah.

The Shivaani bit was too much. He could have stopped after saying he was only consoling as a friend, why to even ask questions to bua? As if Pakhi wasn’t wrong at all and they all made their relationship look bad. Just face the reality. He knows that he won’t be able to reveal Pakhi’s truth but that doesn’t mean he will make others look wrong.


I felt that he spoke about his transfer more for Sai than his family. It is like how Sai keeps telling she will leave the house, he was telling it so that he continues to maintain distance from Sai and also to remind them once again that his decision is final.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Virat only presented his side of the story n in the process he has hidden pp's true face from Samrat n family. Pp's image has been held up but Sai/shivani now look like these petty women who made a big deal about nothing. Sai I'm sure knows even now that he has not presented the full truth. Because the way pp was crying n the hokding hands clearly shows Sai that they were having qn emotional conversation. It wasnt just advice giving. So Sai despite everything virat has said will still feel like he is simply compromising with his own life n is forcing pp to compromise too. By not grasping that pp has become a frickin psychopath and referring to her with so much respect /calling her friend despite her behavior- he has unintentionally made a mockery of Sai again. Because now Sai looks like a petty jealous wife who is simply misunderstanding. Whereas she has had NO misunderstanding. She saw through pp clearly and called it like it is. Virat by oresenting only his side of the story has made himself clear, has saved pp's image, but now Samrat is ahain getting coerced into giving pp a chance when ahe clearly has no intention of making her relationship with him work. And Sai looks like the "immature, bacchi" who cant handle her husband's friendship with another woman. Fantastic. Whether virat talks or stays silent, its always Sai who comes out looking in bad light. Sai really is putting herself through unnecessary stress, toxicity....she should just leave CN n focus on her studies.

I just wanna see Sai happy ....

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

I know that sach dialogue made no sense. When it started I was like okay, it makes sense but when he lied, I was like what did you then mean by sacchai ki raah.

The Shivaani bit was too much. He could have stopped after saying he was only consoling as a friend, why to even ask questions to bua? As if Pakhi wasn’t wrong at all and they all made their relationship look bad. Just face the reality. He knows that he won’t be able to reveal Pakhi’s truth but that doesn’t mean he will make others look wrong.


I felt that he spoke about his transfer more for Sai than his family. It is like how Sai keeps telling she will leave the house, he was telling it so that he continues to maintain distance from Sai and also to remind them once again that his decision is final.

@bold But the timing was so wrong. Family will took it as he is going away for samrakhi sake or he is going away because he couldn't see samrakhi together because of past.

Agree with all points. I am trying hard to understand or like his character. But he is just being a disappointment in every episode.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Love this take, Laksh. Wonderfully said ❤️

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

Exactly. His intention to share about the cafe meet was right. He thought of clearing it from his side but he failed to realise that the only best way was to come clean about everything.


@bold He hasn’t understood it. He is underestimating the issue again.


I just wanted Samrat to be aware of the entire truth before he takes a decision.

About Sairat, it is going to go in circles anyway.


exactly he talks abt truth what truth he just put his bro back in a dark cave where there is no exit🤦🏻‍♀️he is stuck in that cave for life there is only light if his delusional wife accepts the fact that love happens 2nd time too

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Posted: 4 years ago
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The problem with this show they haven't shown aftermath for any wrong doings.. It's only the leads who paying for other's misdeed.. Sai-Virat-Pakhi all those people are in this complex situation only because of Pakhi.. 🐷

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

Thanks Nethra.

Yeah, this bit is for all of his past actions. What he did today was because of the other things that I have mentioned. He thought he was fixing things this way but he actually let his brother down.

Your take on how he looks for solutions and not deal with the messy emotions certainly makes a lot of sense. I loved it. ❤️ But don't you think it applies here as well. He has already arrived at the solution - SamrAkhi should give their marriage a chance. He feels that is best for everyone - so he is encouraging it without dealing with the mess.

Here he has essentially made an error in judgement regarding Pakhi. And he is actually propagating this error - by hiding the crucial facts - which will land his brother in trouble. History is repeating itself without his knowledge. I'm still curious how he interpreted Samrat's anger.

His comment to Shivani was in bad taste. I don't know how to interpret it. It looked like borderline gas-lighting.

Edited by nethraa_99 - 4 years ago

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