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I haven't seen today's episode mainly because of the negative reviews....but my take is as follows...

Virat has a high tolerance level. Afterall he has tolerated our Sai bai's brashness for more than a year. Yes, Sai always tells the truth but she tends to be rude many times. Hence, he has tolerated all CN wasis taunts and Paakhi's obsession.

Unless, the matter is extremely important like Sai's studies, Devi Taayi's marriage, Harini, etc. he does not like to ruffle feathers.

Virat always looks and hopes for good in others. He believes people can be good given the right circumstances. Hence, he believes Paakhi may change if the circumstances change.

Virat has always felt guilty about Paakhi's state in life. Now that Samrat has come and disclosed the reason behind his disappearance he feels guilty for ruining his life too. In his mind, if they both give their marriage one chance, everything will sort itself out

Yes, he learnt from Sai that he needs to tell the truth and he did say....his truth.

Paakhi's truth was not his to disclose.Also, by disclosing the details of the conversation he had with Paakhi, he feels he might destroy their (Paakhi and Samrat) last chance at happiness.

Many feel Virat is talking the decision on behalf of his brother.....yet again. But my question is - Is Samrat a child? He knows what is best for himself. Instead of asking Virat if Paakhi is still pinning for Virat, Samrat should have asked Paakhi this question. How can Virat answer for Paakhi? If I am not mistaken last week Paakhi did mention to Samrat that she will never be able to forget Virat. Now, Samrat being a wise guy that he is portrayed to be can take his own decision on whether to give his marriage a chance or not. All Virat is doing is making sure that if there is a chance, he should not be the reason it gets ruined. Ultimately the decision to stay in the marriage is that of Samrat's and Paakhi's. If Paakhi wanted an out she will mention that to Samrat. Not him.

My point is Virat is not being Selfish. He is just telling HIS Truth. He will never answer for Paakhi as it is her responsibility to do so. Neither Paakhi nor Samrat are a child. In fact being a third party in that relationship, he is no one to comment on it.

I don't think he intended to make Sai look like a person always doubting him. In fact he praised his wife for the honest person that she is. He just looked at Sai because he is hurt that she keeps doubting him.

Yes, he has made a lot of mistakes but he is human.

Also, just for us to ponder.....what if by his actions today, over a period of time..... Paakhi and Samrat fall in love and have a better life?? Yes, what Paakhi has done (by interfering in Sairat's lives) is wrong but she was not so vile in the beginning. In fact, she was shown as a positive character. Meaning, there is still hope for her and Samrat.

Originally posted by: KBBofRCIBC

Tbh I didn’t expect Virat to tell the whole truth in front of the family and was expecting Pakhi whitewashing version. Because for him it was not about Sai or Pakhi it was about his relationship with his Jeeva.

And in his delusional world Samrat still loves Pakhi and clearing things from his side which he calls “His sachai“ will help samrat to patch up with Pakhi and a second chance to Samrakhi and his relationship with his Jeeva will mend.

My biggest grouse with Virat is he can be patient with everyone including Pakhi but not to Sai whom he is in love with. He cant explain to her little bit more patiently and clear her insecurities. He needs to act rude only to Sai.

He really needs to change his rude attitude towards only Sai and understand Pakhi real intentions.

Because Pakhi has started new mission about making Virat jealous 🤪

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He has been patient with Sai all along right? Just that this time he has lost it. Everyone has a threshold and he has reached that. Her words and her inability to understand him, understand his emotions for her, to understand his actions or gestures hurt him a lot more than her misunderstanding him.

He was hopeful even during Samrat Sai conversation but lost all hopes after that. He wanted to know if Sai would have again misunderstood him and Pakhi and it was proved to him that she thinks that they have something.

I don’t think he has been able to completely understand all of her reaction to be as insecurity. He probably thinks that Sai is a righteous person and she wouldn’t tolerate such a behaviour from him even if she has no feelings for him. I think he thinks that it is affecting her because she thinks he is not being right or fair by having anything to do with Pakhi when he is married and Pakhi is also married to someone else.

He did understand in the hospital with the nurse. Even if he tries to know what’s running in her mind, she hides all her emotions by acting indifferent. She has a mask on her face which doesn’t allow him to even see that she is actually not happy with all this. She keeps saying that she is not interested in him even to Pakhi. She keeps saying she will leave the house. These used to be confusing for him but not after what he heard her speak at the anniversary venue. When she expressed her displeasure that he celebrated it, he misunderstood that she doesn’t want to be linked with him as a wife and that’s why she was unhappy about it. He lacks confidence actually. It makes him feel that she cannot have feelings for him. Only if he can think that way can he even think that all this is her insecurity.

He is rude so that he doesn’t get carried away with his own emotions for Sai. This is what Sai used to do so that she doesn’t fall for him right? He is just trying to maintain a distance by staying this way because he won’t be able to do it otherwise.

Pakhi is in a different tangent altogether 🤣🤣.

Laksh this was my take that I had posted in another thread and was discussing with Nethra... and forgot to tag you....

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In terms of Virat "taunting" Sai that he had to go meet Pakhi in the cafe because otherwise she would misunderstand him + then telling Shivani that just people two people are holding hands does not mean that they are in a relationship. These are his frustrations coming out. He has felt misunderstood by Sai for almost a year now. His current state towards her is the result of a culmination of pain and hurt. He knows that Pakhi means nothing to him, and Sai means everything...and yet, Sai keeps misunderstanding him to be in love with Pakhi...and that is killing him. I am not denying the fact that his lack of clarification is what is causing Sai's misunderstandings in the first place, but I am speaking from his perspective right now. His intention was never to prove Sai wrong nor to make her look like the suspicious wife and himself like the innocent husband. He admitted today that he saw how angry Sai was at the cafe, so I think a part of him has registered that it did deeply impact Sai. Today, all he wanted to do was to clarify once and for all that Pakhi means nothing to him. In fact, I had written this after yesterday's episode, but the entire reason he is clarifying in front of the family is because of Sai's dialogues that she will now distance herself from Virat and that she knows he feels nothing for her. Those were the two main dialogues that moved his expression and impacted him while he was eavsdropping. He can claim he does not care about what Sai thinks all he wants, but that could not be further from the truth. Yes, hearing Sai speak to Shivani also awakened his consciousness and made him realize he need to tell Samrat. But, these two reasons are equally important to him. Also, to those saying that the handholding dialogue is hypocritical because of the Ajinkya kaand, I cannot compare these two instances. Virat was in an emotional black out state during the Ajinkya kaand, and he was in no state to be thinking about these things.

Today, Virat revealed HIS truth in a crystal clear manner. He said there is nothing in between Pakhi and him. He even said that yes, Sai seeing them was the reason for him coming clean, but that was not the only reason... he told Samrat that he did everything last time to save their relationship, and now, he is doing the same. This is key. Virat thinks that the only way to save his relationship with Samrat is to save Samrat's relationship with Pakhi. Because, to him, Pakhi is Samrat's happiness, and this relationship was ruined because of him in the first place. He thinks that there is a chance that these two might fall in love and give themselves a second shot. And, he wants the same new beginning for Pakhi too.... because even though she has just psychotically declared her desire for EMA to him, in his mind, she does not even know Samrat... and if she tries to get to know him, she could see what an amazing man he is...

He is so desperate for this to become reality, that he is not looking at anything beyond that. In the process, he is being so extremely unfair to his brother. He owes it to Samrat to reveal the truth about Pakhi's intentions at the cafe meet up. But, in his desperation for SamRakhi to have another shot, he is making the same mistake that created this entire mess to begin with. He is being an absolutely terrible brother. In fact, this time, he is truly ruining Samrat's life, even if it is unintentional.... and that is simply not okay...

All in all today's episode was classic Virat behavior to me. Yet again.

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Awesome post laksh.

I agree that Virat is morally wrong in not revealing Patralekha’s intentions to Samrat and Sai but

Virat can not do so because

The moment Sai hears that Pakhi wants to be with Virat for a lifetime,she would refuse to even hear Virat’s decision and leave him forever.

Samrat will go back since he himself declared that he will think about his decision to stay at CN only if Pakhi wants to give a chance to their marriage..

Patralekha will become a free bird after divorce and pursue Virat despite him showing no interest in her. Bhavani will surely side with Pakhi and persuade Virat to get back to her.With Sai gone,even Pakhi’s parents will bring pressure on Virat to see their daughter fulfill her love.

Aswini will get shattered for the happenings and never accept Patralekha as her daughter in law. Even Ninad for that matter.

Virat Chavan can move away from Sai but can not live without her existence in his life.

I think Virat did his best to save himself and his relationship with Sai from Patralekha though he was wrong on moral grounds.

Anyway this is what I think and I respect your take definitely.

Thanks 😊

I really don’t know how much of a thought did Virat give into these. Yes, he would have thought to some extent but I don’t think he went as far as divorce and what would happen after that. I don’t think he is worried about what would Pakhi even do. He is not capable of thinking that she might pressurise him.

May be I misunderstood what you are saying. May be you are saying that had Virat told the truth these can happen so it is best that he doesn’t tell?

Hmm, it is just pereception. This is Virat’s way of dealing things. We all have different perception about things. Like I prefer that the truth be told whatever be the consequences, I will face it. Sometimes we have to act in a way that we don’t cause damages.

In this case as you have mentioned in your first line, it wasn’t morally right on his part to have hidden it from Samrat. He wanted to set things right with his brother and he could have done it with honesty.

It didn’t look to me that he was trying to save his and Sai’s relationship. He did want fo clarify things for Sai too. He wanted to somehow let her know that he doesn’t have any illicit relationship with Pakhi and he met her only to help her. Whether he wanted fo save his marriage or not, he couldn’t let any more misunderstanding between him and Sai. It was as if he was once again doing something hidden from people which can be perceived in a wrong way and hence it is better that he reveals it rather than keeping it hidden. He also felt that Sai was right that he cannot hide this from Samrat. He wanted to save his relationship with his brother by being honest that he met Pakhi at a cafe.

He started it all with the right intention but ended up making a mistake in the process. That’s how I could see it.

@bold Definitely 😊

Laksh, I had lot of issues with today's episode to be frank 😆.

Neeraja mentioned a lot of points which I agree with how Virat made Sai and shivani look like petty people to save his bff

- Virat telling only his part of the truth with all those heavy loaded dialogues of truth and learning to say the truth . I would have been ok if he just wanted to tell his part of the story but not like he is the most truthful person on planet earth.

- when Kaku asked why go outside to meet, him hinting that it was because Sai would have misunderstood them so they went out to talk making Sai look like the suspicious wife who is doubting their holier friendship and yet again throwing her infront of the wolf's

- him telling hand holding was just as friends. If this was indeed true why was he so shocked when Sai caught then and why did he leave Pakhis hand. He could have continued to hold her hand right? Him berating Shivani by calling her petty. He put down both Sai and shivani for hiding Pakhis truth and called them without calling them petty.

- hiding the truth from Samrat that she is a pyscho who proposed eloping and still pushing his brother towards her.

- after all this Pakhi said she wants to think. So my question if she didn't want this marriage why is no one asking her why she was pretending to be waiting for Samrat all along even used it for gaining sympathy. What is there for Pakhi even to think if we go by both Virat and Pakhis dialogues that she wanted to move on but Samrat left. They even made it look like Samrat did dhoka to Didi by running away 🤪. Yes yes running away is wrong but not Didi.

- in all this Sai and shivani came out looking bad and petty and Pakhi is the new saint of chavan nivas and Virat is torch bearer for truth. I am waiting for c gang to taunt Sai about this now and Pakhi get a free pass to barge into SaiRat's room.

Laksh unable to tag you above post 😆. Trying again

Originally posted by: laksh

Wanted to share a few things and have consolidated it all in this post. Just my views.

Virat told the family not because Sai had seen him but because of what he heard Sai tell Shivani. Her words made an impact. He did get upset that she was misunderstanding him yet again but he also understood that it would lead to more misunderstanding. He also understood that Sai was right that he wasn’t being fair with Samrat by hiding the cafe meet. He could make sense that Samrat will be hurt if he comes to know from someone else. He realised that he had made a similar misistake in the past too.

Sai had said that she wouldn’t tell it to anyone and it should be Virat who should share it with everyone and it dawned on him that she was right. Also, she said that he wouldn’t tell anyone.

Virat got upset that she thought he wouldn’t tell anyone because she thinks there was something between him and Pakhi and that he wants to hide it.

At the same time, Virat was reminded of the anniversary trip. Sai did tell him that he hid the truth about their trip from everyone and took her for the trip because he didn’t want anyone to know about it. She did have issues that he lied to everyone about it. He understood that Sai would be again thinking that he wouldn’t tell anyone because there is something going on between him and Pakhi and that is why he wouldn’t let anyone know that he met Pakhi at the cafe.

That was her claim about anniversary celebration as well.

He didn’t want that. He wanted to clear that confusion, the misunderstanding. He actually wanted to reveal the truth so that Sai comes to know that he won’t be hiding anything anymore. It was so that she understands that there is nothing between him and Pakhi. Yes, he lied today but he brought this truth out in front of the family so that Sai doesn’t misunderstand him hiding things anymore. Also so that Samrat doesn’t feel betrayed that he hid it from him yet again. He anyway did that by hiding Pakhi’s truth but that according to Virat is the right thing to do.

I hated that he hid it from Samrat. But the way I understand, when a person thinks that they are hiding it for someone’s good, they think that the lie is still okay. That is how I think Virat felt it is okay to hide Pakhi’s side of the story. What he didn’t think was that he was betraying Samrat by patching him up with a person who is obsessive about him, who wanted to start a life with him, who just wanted to be with him.

From what I understand about Virat, he thinks that if Pakhi gives a chance, she will be able to see who Samrat actually is and will be able to move on the way he did. He didn’t want to lose his brother, so he had to let him know that Pakhi is only a friend to him. He didn’t want to ruin the chances of Pakhi to start her life afresh so he hid the truth about her and also lied to Samrat when he asked Virat about Pakhi. He blatantly lied.

Virat saw how desperate Pakhi was at the cafe. He could see that she is still stuck in her past. He also heard from her that Samrat wanted to know her decision. He understood that Samrat wouldn’t mind giving her a chance. He knows that Samrat is a wonderful person who would be able to give her love which would change her feelings, which would help her move on from the past. He also feels guilty that he is the reason that Samrat walked out from his marriage. He thinks that by doing all this, things would fall back in place.

Having said all of these, it doesn’t change the fact that he actually lied to Samrat and betrayed him today.

He could have felt guilty, would have wanted Pakhi to understand Samrat but Virat needs to understand that honesty is very important in relationship.

I don’t even want to talk about what he spoke to Shivani bua. He had blatantly lied about Pakhi. His brother would have trusted him while making a decision to give Pakhi a chance. Whatever be his intentions, Samrat has all rights to know the truth before he takes the decision. Virat is no one to decide to hide such a big thing to make them give a chance. He has yet again done the same thing as in the past.

Sai ne sacchai ke raah pe chalna sikhaya right? What is this then? There is no justification to what he did today. He has failed.

Talking about his side of the truth was also lying only. Pakhi held his hands asking him something and he has once again hid things from Sai too. Sai doesn’t misunderstand him for any invalid reasons. He has kept the same reason alive by hiding one side of the truth even now. He has still not come clean. For one to trust, honesty is very important. I am sorry but Virat failed to be honest and has not been honest in the past too.

And about him calling Pakhi as his friend.

What friend? A person who wanted relationship with him? A person who tried to create misunderstanding between him and his wife and who was the reason his wife’s life was in danger? I can see the future Virat who would want to do what he feels is right by ignoring everything else. He is guilty, he has a sense of duty towards Pakhi, he made promises to Pakhi so he will continue to be her friend even after whatever she does.

Virat hasn’t understood the gravity of the situation. His instincts have been bad but even after Pakhi has been acting so desperate, he doesn’t think that Pakhi needs guidance and help. He doesn’t feel that she is acting crazy. His reaction at the cafe or during every talk between them shows how he finds her talks, her thoughts and expectations to be absurd, to be crazy. Even after knowing these, he is still not thinking that she is capable of anything now. He has seen what all she has done and is ignoring that. He will be facing the consequences of his own actions. Pakhi is obsessed with him and he shouldn’t be ignoring it at any cost. Pakhi needs help and guidance. Him getting her a chance with Samrat hiding the truth is not the right kind of help. She is not a teenager who has a crush on him or who is infatuated. She has been sharing about her feelings for quite sometime now. She has made herself clear to him throughout. Even if he failed to understand her in the past, he got to know ever since he returned from GC. In the recent meet, she has even shared about her wishes and her expectations. All of these should be looked at as something alarming. Had he replied to Samrat that Pakhi will answer his question, that would have been a different thing.

Samrat anyway deserves to know the truth. Virat’s style and way of handling things or situations could be different. He is a non confrontational person by nature. He likes to give solution rather than talking more about the problem. He preferred to confess and sort things out with Sai through actions rather than sharing about his past. He avoids unpleasant conversation. He is not good at voicing out his emotions and his thoughts, so has ended up taking an unusual route.

However he has to understand that his right, his decision need not be actually right.

What he thinks is right need not be right.

I still remember what he once told Sai. Tumhara sach aur mera sach alag ho sakta hai. It really was true. He was right. She knew just one part of the truth and misunderstood him. His truth was different from hers.

And now the truth that he presented in front of the whole family is different from what the actual truth is. They all were made to know just one part of the truth. Whatever be the reasons that he had, he did what he thought was right.

What is right to him, need not actually be right as per others. It need not be right at all. One has to know this and keep this in mind so that they don’t falter.

Keeping this all a side, he said all this in open for Samrat but also he want to say it loud to sai, by to say it one on one , his resolution is coming in between but still he want to say her what she understood is not right.... Did you how virat is looking at sai in the last 5 min when kaku said Samrat to " if they did something wrong why would they tell it in open".... He wants to tell her that nothing happened what she is assuming...

Ps: although I didn't like the dialogues but somewhere I feel those through dialogues that he is not capable of facing truth once but sai thought him sounded genuine, they don't fit it this situation but still he mean it and believe it and wished sai would have come into his life before pakhi

Originally posted by: Saichintalli

laksh , every time when we discuss, we might agree with most of the things but still we might disagree in few but today this post, I agree with each and every word of what you said.... Giving pakhi a fair chance , hiding her truth ,I can understand, it is wrong still I can understand but the way he said by using those dialogues of truth and the way he made Shivani guilty , I couldn't digest that virat did it... Because virat can do anything for his loved one sake, here he did it for Samrat but the way he did it , it's not virat style... Till date when he don't agree with allegations or if he agree but don't want to talk is another thing, giving the Sachi ka paat is like gold covering on silver jewelry, where silver is also valuable but it's not gold. Same way what he said is truth but it's not 100% truth... Then with what confidence he pinpointed Shivani, with what confidence he used truth lines from sai...

Keeping this all a side, he said all this in open for Samrat but also he want to say it loud to sai, by to say it one on one , his resolution is coming in between but still he want to say her what she understood is not right.... Did you how virat is looking at sai in the last 5 min when kaku said Samrat to " if they did something wrong why would they tell it in open".... He wants to tell her that nothing happened what she is assuming...

Ps: although I didn't like the dialogues but somewhere I feel those through dialogues that he is not capable of facing truth once but sai thought him sounded genuine, they don't fit it this situation but still he mean it and believe it and wished sai would have come into his life before pakhi

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@bold I foo felt this. Exactly this. Like asking her, hoping her to understand that there is nothing between him and Pakhi.

Originally posted by: Saichintalli

laksh , every time when we discuss, we might agree with most of the things but still we might disagree in few but today this post, I agree with each and every word of what you said.... Giving pakhi a fair chance , hiding her truth ,I can understand, it is wrong still I can understand but the way he said by using those dialogues of truth and the way he made Shivani guilty , I couldn't digest that virat did it... Because virat can do anything for his loved one sake, here he did it for Samrat but the way he did it , it's not virat style... Till date when he don't agree with allegations or if he agree but don't want to talk is another thing, giving the Sachi ka paat is like gold covering on silver jewelry, where silver is also valuable but it's not gold. Same way what he said is truth but it's not 100% truth... Then with what confidence he pinpointed Shivani, with what confidence he used truth lines from sai...

Keeping this all a side, he said all this in open for Samrat but also he want to say it loud to sai, by to say it one on one , his resolution is coming in between but still he want to say her what she understood is not right.... Did you how virat is looking at sai in the last 5 min when kaku said Samrat to " if they did something wrong why would they tell it in open".... He wants to tell her that nothing happened what she is assuming...

Ps: although I didn't like the dialogues but somewhere I feel those through dialogues that he is not capable of facing truth once but sai thought him sounded genuine, they don't fit it this situation but still he mean it and believe it and wished sai would have come into his life before pakhi

Hmm. Interesting point. Like u said the way the taunted Shivani even I didn't like it. But the rest of the point I agree. He wanted to make it clear to sai that pakhi is just a friend and nothing more. And wanted to sort the the things before he goes for transfer.

But one thing is there. Why do u want ur brother to suffer.u know that pakhi is not over u then why push ur brother to her. That the other problem. U r making samarat think actually pakhi likes him na. That I feel was another thing which I didn't like.

Originally posted by: Saichintalli

laksh , every time when we discuss, we might agree with most of the things but still we might disagree in few but today this post, I agree with each and every word of what you said.... Giving pakhi a fair chance , hiding her truth ,I can understand, it is wrong still I can understand but the way he said by using those dialogues of truth and the way he made Shivani guilty , I couldn't digest that virat did it... Because virat can do anything for his loved one sake, here he did it for Samrat but the way he did it , it's not virat style... Till date when he don't agree with allegations or if he agree but don't want to talk is another thing, giving the Sachi ka paat is like gold covering on silver jewelry, where silver is also valuable but it's not gold. Same way what he said is truth but it's not 100% truth... Then with what confidence he pinpointed Shivani, with what confidence he used truth lines from sai...

Keeping this all a side, he said all this in open for Samrat but also he want to say it loud to sai, by to say it one on one , his resolution is coming in between but still he want to say her what she understood is not right.... Did you how virat is looking at sai in the last 5 min when kaku said Samrat to " if they did something wrong why would they tell it in open".... He wants to tell her that nothing happened what she is assuming...

Ps: although I didn't like the dialogues but somewhere I feel those through dialogues that he is not capable of facing truth once but sai thought him sounded genuine, they don't fit it this situation but still he mean it and believe it and wished sai would have come into his life before pakhi

Can I just say I love this post especially the one in bold and italic ❤️

@red - they that's where the problem is right. It wasn't they it was him who didn't do anything wrong. So he was able to tell the truth unlike someone else who was basking in on all the I am as pure and innocent as one get get looks.