Virats "adjustment comment" - Page 3

Originally posted by: tptwi

I completely agree with a lot of your points. Much of what Virat has done cannot be justified. But, that being said, no human nor relationship is ever perfect. To a certain extent, we are all toxic. What matters is that we grow and learn from our mistakes in attempt to become better.

At the end of the day, Virat is a product of his surroundings. He has grown up surrounded by toxic men and women alike. Most of the elders of his family are of the mindset that husbands are in charge of their wives and that women have no freedoms in life. Even that being considered, he has still grown up to be a better man than his father. Again, that is no excuse for his behavior, but that provides us a background of who he is.

As the show has progressed, we have seen these two sides of Virat at odds with one another, but the kind, supportive man that Sai is falling in love with is slowly coming to the forefront. To me, some of the most powerful moments of the show have been Virat repenting, realizing how badly he has treated Sai. Again, that doesn't excuse what he has done. It seems to me that he truly has grown. Whether or not that is true, time will tell. Especially for the past few weeks, we have seen Virat truly grow from what he used to be. This is no longer the same Virat who kicked Sai out or who grabbed her arm and forbade her to eat.

The comment he made about Sai having to adjust made me sick too. But again, that is the live he has grown up seeing. So can we really blame him for having that viewpoint? Somewhat yes, but it is not so black and white...

Again, I am not trying to defend his wrongdoings. I bashed him every time he did something atrocious. But, I do think that we need to see him as a product of his surroundings, and give him the opportunity to grow..

I don't think it's about being perfect. Perfection is about flaws, but Virats mistakes are crimes. Even after ousting I can accept him but if there's no growth after 230 episodes then the character isn't worthy to be a ML. I have given the same reasoning to many of Virat's actions in the past. It helps us to understand his mindset but as you said that's not an excuse for his behavior. He cant forever hide behind his patriarchal upbringing. All of his growth and apology post manhandling and domestic violence gets washed away with such insensitive statements.

Red- After 230 episodes yes. He has himself seen the true colors of the family. If despite all this he is failing to understand the abuse his wife is facing from family thats truly a mistake from his side. See Virat literally is a raja babu at his home. If with a raised hand he could silence his whole family I am sure he can make a better environment for Sai. But it's his non-confrontational nature (which is a choice he makes) that's stopping him from acting.

Green- I do, I do but Virat lacks growth. Growth comes when you can accept and reflect on your mistakes. When has he ever done that? It's always an external force telling him about his wrongdoings. Idk if makers will deliver but I am genuinely looking forward to a virat who can acknowledge and reflect on his misrakes right from taking a decision on Samrat's behalf.

Originally posted by: tptwi

The problem is that the makers are mixing up Rono with Virat. I do think there has been lots of progression in Virat's character and Sairat's relationship and all we can do is hope that it doesn't get destroyed

For someone who isn't aware of KD's existence, Virat is all they have to analyze. If we separate Ronno for a moment and look at Virat's characterization all we see is a hypocrite and a selfish Insaan. Ronno was an MCP on the face, he wasn't a man of principles or soft like Virat. Virat had the best characterization initially but in face of adversities, the Virat we see is dangerous. Your principles cant change according to your convenience. If they do you are a hypocrite

Originally posted by: Dvanshi123

Why ..why is everything brushed under the carpet coz it looks "cute or "romantic"

That's exactly the issue with Sairat. There is no redressal of any of this abuse. They bring in 2-3 cute or romantic scenes and then abuse continues

Originally posted by: Anamika32

For someone who isn't aware of KD's existence, Virat is all they have to analyze. If we separate Ronno for a moment and look at Virat's characterization all we see is a hypocrite and a selfish Insaan. Ronno was an MCP on the face, he wasn't a man of principles or soft like Virat. Virat had the best characterization initially but in face of adversities, the Virat we see is dangerous. Your principles cant change according to your convenience. If they do you are a hypocrite

I do think it is necessary to consider the clashes between Virat and Rono in order to properly analyze Virat. Because we do see growth in Virat's character, but the makers forget about those moments and then once again copy paste from KD a few episodes later, which is what often times creates the hypocrisy you are talking about.

Originally posted by: Anamika32

I don't think it's about being perfect. Perfection is about flaws, but Virats mistakes are crimes. Even after ousting I can accept him but if there's no growth after 230 episodes then the character isn't worthy to be a ML. I have given the same reasoning to many of Virat's actions in the past. It helps us to understand his mindset but as you said that's not an excuse for his behavior. He cant forever hide behind his patriarchal upbringing. All of his growth and apology post manhandling and domestic violence gets washed away with such insensitive statements.

Red- After 230 episodes yes. He has himself seen the true colors of the family. If despite all this he is failing to understand the abuse his wife is facing from family thats truly a mistake from his side. See Virat literally is a raja babu at his home. If with a raised hand he could silence his whole family I am sure he can make a better environment for Sai. But it's his non-confrontational nature (which is a choice he makes) that's stopping him from acting.

Green- I do, I do but Virat lacks growth. Growth comes when you can accept and reflect on your mistakes. When has he ever done that? It's always an external force telling him about his wrongdoings. Idk if makers will deliver but I am genuinely looking forward to a virat who can acknowledge and reflect on his misrakes right from taking a decision on Samrat's behalf.

There's a lot I have to say in response to this, but I guess I will leave it at this- I truly do think that Virat has experienced a lot of character growth since the ousting incident. But, whether or not that is true, we will find out once this comedic and light-hearted track has passed and whether or not the makers decide to include the dreaded track/how they choose to handle it.

Originally posted by: tptwi

I do think it is necessary to consider the clashes between Virat and Rono in order to properly analyze Virat. Because we do see growth in Virat's character, but the makers forget about those moments and then once again copy paste from KD a few episodes later, which is what often times creates the hypocrisy you are talking about.

I wrote a post sometime back on how Virat is slowly moving away from his family towards Sai ....it is not very apparent but it is there under the surface. So yes, in some ways there is definitely a progression in Virat's feelings as well as in SaiRat relationship.

But what about progression in Virat himself? I did believe that Virat will slowly start to understand Sai's POV as their relationship becomes stronger. But now, after they have made strides in the relationship, and now when he knows what lengths his family will go to with Sai (ousting track ), he is shown to be dismissive of Sai's feelings towards his family's mistreatment and he makes this appalling statement. So where is the character development? More importantly, it becomes difficult to support SaiRat's relationship because then Sai's role in the relationship entails tolerating the abuse from the Chavans.

I don't know if this insensitivity can be attributed to randomly copying Rono's dialogues. Even the night before, he was dismissive of Sai's feelings so I think this is what they are building him up to be - which is frankly not acceptable at all. Perhaps it is even silly. Yes, lot of men from orthodox families may have regressive expectations from their wife, but even such men do take a stand when their wives are abused.

Edit: I hope I don't come across as arguing (because I'm not 😊). Just trying to discuss different perspectives.