Ladakh ki ladai, "Love" pe aafat aayi - Page 7

Originally posted by: AK_2010

@Bold- These just two of the many instances when Sai has openly expressed her opinion about their 'Friendship' and despite all these exchanges, not once has Virat addressed the issue as it is. Either because he just does not get it or he has been too immersed into his own feelings to understand what she is trying to say in spashtha words.

Sometimes, I also like to believe that he is just blantly ignorant about Sai's feelings but that could also be my annoyance towards the character.

No, it is not your annoyance towards the character. He hasn't given any thought to her feelings in the context of the intimacy -- he does not delve into her insecurities even when she's expressing it but he catches on to her words that are of conveniently linked to his own insecurity - "mere pati khadoos hain, mujhse pyaar nahi karte, meri zarooretin hain, mujhe bhi pyaar chahiye"... he actually didn't think of the fact that she needs it, it was more like "she thinks someone else can give it to her, not me? Why? Don't I do it already? I even got her candy floss!" So even her whole speaking to Pakhi Didi about bringing dinner and how it would give him happiness because there is no competition was taken in the way, "oh I am not important to her, she doesn't want to do this for me. Why should she want Pakhi to do it", instead of "oh this is how my action makes her feel about my friendship with vahini". So that is my problem with him. I cannot give him the benefit of doubt yet on this issue 😆

Originally posted by: prs_725

I am not sure if he is the type of guy that expects the woman to make the first move, that wants entitlement along the route. Someone like oh she likes me and wants me, so I will reciprocate if I feel the same. Otherwise, I wont. During him and Pakhi's time, Pakhi was the one who made the first move by giving him her phone number and telling him explicitly, you will call me and i'll be waiting for your call. He merely reciprocated everything she said. In Sai's case, we see him doing things differently but also he's retaining his character of wanting things said and done w/o having to put work into it.

One thing about him that I have noticed is that he is not exactly sure about what he himself wants from this relationship. Before marriage he was all farz and zimmedari, then after marriage when Sai did behave like a wife he got pissed, now he wants her to behave like a wife and expects her to claim her rights on him but he won't openly convey that. Now he is actually using farz and zimmedari as his shield as and when he needs protection from Sai's questions.

Virat claims to not understand the art of gol gol baatei but inko gol gol baatei karne ke alawa kuch aur ata hi nahi hai. As a 'mature' and 'samajhdar' man should he be the one to ease Sai's insecurities? But instead he wants Sai to soothe his ego 🤔

I think what is getting confusing w this show is that writers dont have Virat sketched out. They are showing him as Rono or Vikram conveniently. Mixing two characters doesn't form a character. A character needs to be developed and that is something they aren't doing w Virat. They show him pal mein masha toh pal mein tola.

I don't think they ever work on the MLs character sketch. They start off pretty good but somewhere along the line the ML turns into a complete a*****e mostly driven by insecurity or blind hatred.

Also if he does that, that's messed up. Your wife is also your responsibility so is the kid. If he abandons his wife when she's in labor, he's actually going against the entire reason on why he married her. It doesn't make sense at all and that's not something a wife should ever forgive. I bet he will say Sai had aayi and lot of people but she had no one lol

Whatever excuse he provides won't be as good as his "Meri zimmedari hai"

Nope, not upset at all! ITV male leads are usually the problem along the way the entire time haha i was just thinking that though the entire family is alright w Sai later on, it's Virat who has been and will be the issue in their relationship throughout lol

Exactly. The moment everyone in the family starts liking the FL, the ML takes a U-turn and suddenly starts doubting his wife, starts accusing her of affairs and what not all not...

wah the ladoos in her dil are real bc of this ladakh trip 😆 soon to be eaten by Sai and phootne wale by the couple lol we can let her enjoy this 1.47 wali khushi as their 1.47 wala pyaar 🤣

Imagine if these guys would have made it to Ladakh and actually found Samrat Like Janki said, he would have dug a deeper trench and gone back into hibernation after watching them on Pakhi special "Honeymoon trip"

Originally posted by: Roch

Shall intervene, my logical mind is on a over ride.

Too much expectations from a man who does not understand his own feelings, ab usse umeed karein ki spashta language samjhe hogaya. He has always been blinded by emotions and he is impulsive when he is emotional. Uska simple logic, family ke liye main kuch bhi karunga. So now he has accepted to go to Ladak with his Vahini.

I don't have a problem with him going with Vahini even now. I have a problem with his one-sided expectation from Sai to understand his "love" for her and consider him as "ghar me koi jisse tum pyaar kar sakti ho?" Matching actions with words and clearing air is important. If he cannot live up to this umeed then he should not even have umeed.

I agree he was confused about his feelings related to his jealousy but since meeting Aniket and the Alta episode where he was told ki Saas ke bete aur mere pati ek hi hain, and also posing a direct question to Sai about "pyaar karti ho?", I don't think he is confused about it anymore. He knows he wants her to "love" him. Why would he ask, otherwise? Also, their bedroom conversation of Sai extracting the truth about visiting college -- they did not say it explicitly but both of them know the answer. He went because he was being a jealous jasoos. He needs to have the same moral standard for himself that he sets for Sai as far as any other man or woman is concerned.

I know the next argument will be but Vahini is vahini - family member, not paraayi. Well, then he needs to use his instinct and his gut to understand that Sai does not like it. He knows it. That is why he has minimised his interaction with vahini already, but yet a lot left to be desired about drawing the lines.

We all know he is going to ask his Baiko to come along, what i want see is what would be his reason for asking her

A) He wants her to go along to satisfy his ego. So that she can be around him.

He will want her to come for the fact that he wants her to be around him for the newfound feelings, not ego. That much I am sure of. But if she says no, his husband-ego might be hurt 😆

B) Really understands that she is actually not very comfortable with the idea of him and his vahini going together.

I want him to ask her this and address it. This is a very good chance for the progression.

For her to even take that one step towards him, he needs to show her or tell her what Vahini means to him. I am not even mentioning love here. if he does that then that is character growth, there relation progresses nahi toh yahin pendulam.

While i defend ACP Saheb today, he needs to pull his socks up. Iska yo-yo ride is very tiering.

I agree. I want to see what he does to make up for this sloppiness -- I don't pin him up against the wall for his transgressions. He is human and emotional too. But his follow up actions are not complete -- they are mostly never done as the issues are brushed aside.

I second that, i have already mentioned and replied on Janki's post that benefit of doubt to banta hain. But my question is kitni der tak, he needs to move and he needs to move fast. He is a very slow processor when it comes to his family. He wants to take along everyone, which cannot happen.

Fine use sarcasm but kuch kaho aisa ki sab ke dil ko chube especially vahini. He has done it before and I am sure he can do it again.

I don't think he'd have used sarcasm in that situation but he could have refused the nazarein dikhana part very clearly. It wasn't needed, especially after the comparison of "apni iss biwi ke liye do din ki chhutii le sakte ho toh..." Why does he allow anyone with a voice to speak anything they like about his marriage. Isn't that what Sai told him when they were fighting? I can't give him the benefit of doubt. But he has a chance to redeem the situation by giving a convincing reason why he now wants Sai to go. And if Sai rejects, he can definitely go alone with Vahini, I don't doubt his intention but he should not blow his top at Sai's harmless bonding with any other man, the way he does.

Originally posted by: AK_2010

Imagine if these guys would have made it to Ladakh and actually found Samrat Like Janki said, he would have dug a deeper trench and gone back into hibernation after watching them on Pakhi special "Honeymoon trip"

That would have been amazing bc he does get ideas from bhabhiji lol if she says you go to honeymoon w your wife Virat .. he actually will lol

After watching them Atleast he would get ideas 🤣 Abhi toh he has no idea what romance is .. sai ke liye phool bc of Aniket and ghar wall ke liye khaas kar phool leke aya wah 😵

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Agree a million percent. Right now he’s acting like “Tu kare toh character dheela mei n karo toh what is the big deal and the problem?”

Lol or “sada kutta kutta aur tauda kutta tommy?!” 🤣

Originally posted by: ThruMyEyez-Nita

Hmmm, it is interesting to see the writers start building Sai and Virat's relationship beautifully to only see it take 5 steps back..

To be honest, I did not feel like Virat was in the wrong by offering to go with Pakhi and let me explain why... except for that one awful episode of Virat barging into Pakhi's room, Virat has not shown any romantic inclinations towards Pakhi, he cares for her as a friend and despite him not openly addressing her as his sister-in-law (which I feel is the CV's way of projecting vagueness in their relationship🤢), based on what has been shown thus far, from Virat's POV, he is clear about his boundaries and where his heart lies. So, him offering to go with Pakhi to sort out matters relating to his brother's MIA status, not entirely wrong. Now Pakhi though - is a completely different story, one that Virat is clearly oblivious to (someone knock him in the head, please).

That being said, what was ridiculous, was the way the family were insisting that Virat be the only one to go and that too by taking time off and vacationing with Pakhi - that crossed a line! Was glad though to see that Virat seemed a little taken aback by that remark.

Coming to Virat, as with many of you, I am sick and tired of seeing him stand and give expressions of annoyance and confusion when his family members go on their disgraceful rant. He can be shown as respectful, calm and collected yet stern at the same time. The mute version of Virat needs to be gone. On a side note, it is interesting that they never really show Virat and Mohit bonding - yet talk so much about Samrat and Virat's relationship. I would actually love to see more of them bonding or at least having some sort of friendly banter or interaction that is common among siblings/cousins who grow up in the same household.

Sai, as always stole the show - right from the moment when she decided not to have any part in the Ladakh discussion and slowly excused her way from there, to her firmly saying to Ashwini that no one has brought up or invited her to go along (Hint! Hint! ...Virat), and that she has more pressing matters to attend to and her retort to Pakhi, which was very smartly done 👏.

Also loved seeing Sai's interaction with Dr. Pulkit, although a little out of the blue, she clearly trusts him enough to openly share her thoughts and feelings. If you really look at it, Sai does not really have anyone outside of the Chavan household that she interacts with, so I would like to see their interaction more, as it gives Sai an outlet.

On another side note, I would also like to see more of Sai and Aniket and their college interactions, her having fun and interacting with someone her own age, not just for the jealousy factor, but just as a fun element in the show a respite from all of the responsibilities and hardships that Sai has had bear at a young age. (Also, how cutely did Aniket say "Hi Sai!" a few episodes back...😳)

It will be interesting to see how all of the various tracks play out...

Thank you for another amazing analysis Janki, it is always a pleasure to read them!

I agree with everything you say. My issue with Virat is also the same. It's not about Ladakh but his overall approach to his relationships.

Originally posted by: prs_725

That would have been amazing bc he does get ideas from bhabhiji lol if she says you go to honeymoon w your wife Virat .. he actually will lol

After watching them Atleast he would get ideas 🤣 Abhi toh he has no idea what romance is .. sai ke liye phool bc of Aniket and ghar wall ke liye khaas kar phool leke aya wah 😵

That wouldn't be half as bad. She might taunt, "Ek kaam karo Virat, tum apni biwi ko lekar honeymoon pe chale jaao". And because Virat takes her sooo seriously, he will say, "Theek hai Pakhi, Main tumhari baat ki kadar karta hoon. Tum documents sign karke de do, Sai aur main nazaarein dekhne ke beech me deliver kar denge..." 😆

But aisi umeed nahi hai mujhe uss aadmi se... 🤔

Originally posted by: AK_2010

Imagine if these guys would have made it to Ladakh and actually found Samrat Like Janki said, he would have dug a deeper trench and gone back into hibernation after watching them on Pakhi special "Honeymoon trip"

Samrat would be like, "Halkat saale har***hor, chya*#@%$^, nigh ithun.."

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

That wouldn't be half as bad. She might taunt, "Ek kaam karo Virat, tum apni biwi ko lekar honeymoon pe chale jaao". And because Virat takes her sooo seriously, he will say, "Theek hai Pakhi, Main tumhari baat ki kadar karta hoon. Tum documents sign karke de do, Sai aur main nazaarein dekhne ke beech me deliver kar denge..." 😆

But aisi umeed nahi hai mujhe uss aadmi se... 🤔

🤣 Hahah that would be the day!

Nahi nahi this aadmi will say “Pakhi tumhe bhi ana chaiye.. tumhara man halka hoga. Sai toh ana nahi chahti mere saath. Lekin tum toh aaogi na mere saath?” his exact repetition of “only you bring me food so please bring me food”

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Ani hya bai la pan gheun ja! Hicha thobad baghunach "aata majhi satakli" hotay mala!