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Posted: 14 years ago

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@Ria- lets look at this way...there is this person you love with your entire being...you practically owe your entire existence to this one person..and for this one person's happiness you are willing to sacrifice your own...

Now one fine morning you find out that this one person, who means the world to you, never really respected you and doesnt really care much for your feelings or respect infront of his own value system- that allows him to decide what is wrong and what is right. Now as a woman you can do two things

1) Continue in the relationship- with the understanding that your partner does not really care much for your opinion or judgement. Now, here I am going to write something that I firmly believe- without respect there can never be any love!

2) End the relationship- understanding that if the person does not respect you for who you are, in the longer term you are doing yourself a favor- despite all the short term pain and angst you have to go through.

She chose 2. We may choose 1. Does that make her irresponsible or does that just tell us that Geet values her self a little more than we do ourselves?

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DMKJ_VB

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Posted: 14 years ago

#142

Originally posted by: -pixie-
Sanjana- He has an ego
1) He dragged her out of office- thats why she blew up infront of the media...
2) He catalysed her leaving the house- thats why now he has to ride cycles to find her 😆..If no ego- then no blow-up- no Geet leaving house- methinks,....so it started there!
3) Was it not his ego that was hurt that led to the slap being administered?
4) Is it not his ego- which refused to take No for an answer that led to him ruthlessly pursuing her?

So I may respect everything you have had to say- but that Maan is selfless- I do not agree to that statement one bit. He is definitely too good to be true- but ego and anger are his Achilles heel.

he dragged her out of his office-yes, but that was not his ego, that was his pain,his hurt, his anger at her for so grossly misunderstanding him and so falsely accusing him-...if he had paid attention to his ego, he would hv thrown her out of the office the moment she falsely accused him in front of the board members., and do not forget, geet pushed him in front of the office members!...geet's blowing infront of the media-sorry,i won't go into it.i fail to understand how u can so bluntly demean a person's name in front of the whole media, no matter how angry u r, there is definitely no comparison between that and maan's dragging her out of the office!.maan did not open his mouth in front of the media.

and i he followed her ruthlessly..i accept that there was ego but more than ego,there was his unwillingness to let her go becoz he loved her,.he gave up that after the slap episode-this is exactly what i am saying-maan knows when to give up his ego,and in that case,more than ego,he was willing to give up his love to make geet happy.............................

i had immense respect for that geet who apologized to maan for the slap even though maan was wrong...that was geet's self respect.remeber she said sorry to him becoz she did not approve of raising hand,but she told him that whatever he did was very wrong,thats what i call a strong character, believe me,i loved geet that day............but that geet is missing now!

now,he is following her,not out of ego,it is his repentence............

maan's love has always been selfless, he has always cared about geet's happiness more than his,yes u can call him selfish like he himself admitted once-he can't see geet unhappy,thats why he does everything for her happiness, thats the reason,after the slap episode,he was willing to go out of her life if that made her happy...................................

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-pixie-

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Posted: 14 years ago

#143

1) Why did he drag her out of the office? Wasn't that because of her only?

Like I said earlier, she reacted to incomplete information. She overheard part of a conversation and saw Dev roaming around scot free. Maan did not tell her what he was doing and why? So she reacted to what she thought she had seen and heard. Now the situation is entirely reversed. He reacted to incomplete information- Seeing Geet and Dev at the farmhouse and then finding out Geet had forgiven Dev. She did not manage to tell him what she had done and why. So I dont know how we can blame either of them entirely for what happened

2) I don't think Maan had intentions of making Geet leave the house. But, again it was Geet's self-respect (as you call it)or ego (as I call it) which made her leave the place.

Flight or fight- she chose flight- very natural.

3) If you forgive Geet for so many flaws why not Maan for that one. By the way, again I think the way Geet had behaved that day in the office (the media fiasco), was indirectly behind that behavior of Maan.

I am not judging either of them- thats what I have been trying to say- they both are flawed and both have made mistakes- so the debate of who is more wrong is pointless😆.

Edited by -pixie- - 14 years ago

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Mg777

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Posted: 14 years ago

#144

Originally posted by: ria_sengupta

thats exactly what i hv been trying to say.yes,maan has an ego-but see,he cares least about it now ,doesn't he? he wants his love to win. its not wrong to hv an ego, but yes, as a matured individual, one should be responsible enough to understand when to give importance to the ego and when not! keeping quiet in front of teji and beeji when they insulted maan-that was geet's silent acceptance of all their accusations, her silence when they told her never to go back to her in laws -her silence at that moment conveyed that she was willing to give up on her marriage, willing to walk out on maan, i am not saying she was doing that without any pain,of course not,she was dying inside-but still,her ego got the better of her...................in such a case,ego does become a fatal flaw!

Agree with you.

It isn't your thought only but your timing also that decides what is wrong and what is right.

If Geet showed her ego while Dev asked her from his eyes if he could put the color on her, it was to be better. But, again she showed her ego at a wrong place and at certainly a wrong time.

No offence intended to anyone.

- SANJANA

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Asmita

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Posted: 14 years ago

#145

it was a brilliant post

yeah get has undergone many changes sm whr gud othrs na baat kare toh hi achcha hai

but one thing i agree dat it did lose its pace yeah maybe smtime it luked boring n ppl whr tired of dis shw but it was able brng da viewers bck which many shw cannot do

n thnx agn fr da post

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DMKJ_VB

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Posted: 14 years ago

#146

Originally posted by: -pixie-

Ria, she has fought with him a number of times, been angry with him, nagged him- tried all wifely tools to get him to see her viewpoint. Do you remember the last time when Maan was angry- and says it would have been better that she had let him die rather than save him by being obligated to Dev- she did all the things you wanted her to do. Even before that- she has always relented- but you also have to realize that everyone has a limit- maybe this was the final straw that broke the camel's back...she has gone through multiple shocks in the last few weeks and may be this was the last thing that led to a complete breakdown- even if you look at her behaviour after she walked out of Maan's house- it is not anger- she looks dazed, confused and most of all in shock- how could this happen.

Lets give her some time before we jump to conclusions about her behaviour- because we still dont know what is her exact frame of mind.

sorry,again hv to disagree..these two situations cannot be compared, don't u see one thing-her present attitude suggests she has given up on maan, she is sad for him,she still loves him but she has almost given up on her marriage-no,this is not done...............marriages are not meant to be given up on in this way.......................................and how long do we need to know her frame of mind?why didn't she say anything,not a word to her brother and masi when they were insulting maan?

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Mg777

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Posted: 14 years ago

#147

Originally posted by: -pixie-
@Ria- lets look at this way...there is this person you love with your entire being...you practically owe your entire existence to this one person..and for this one person's happiness you are willing to sacrifice your own...

Now one fine morning you find out that this one person, who means the world to you, never really respected you and doesnt really care much for your feelings or respect infront of his own value system- that allows him to decide what is wrong and what is right. Now as a woman you can do two things
1) Continue in the relationship- with the understanding that your partner does not really care much for your opinion or judgement. Now, here I am going to write something that I firmly believe- without respect there can never be any love!
2) End the relationship- understanding that if the person does not respect you for who you are, in the longer term you are doing yourself a favor- despite all the short term pain and angst you have to go through.

She chose 2. We may choose 1. Does that make her irresponsible or does that just tell us that Geet values her self a little more than we do ourselves?

See this whole line which I have made bold is totally wrong.

How can she even think that Maan doesn't respect her?

And when he said those things to her, weren't they right?

Hadn't she done a wrong job, playing holi with Dev?

And I am sorry but I can never accept what you have said in the whole post of yours (this one).

I thought we are really having a healthy discussion but your line made me upset and I am felling like crying.

It was nice talking to you.

But, now I can't continue with that line of yours.

Bye!

No offence intended to anyone.

- SANJANA

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DMKJ_VB

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Posted: 14 years ago

#148

Originally posted by: -pixie-
1) Why did he drag her out of the office? Wasn't that because of her only?
Like I said earlier, she reacted to incomplete information. She overheard part of a conversation and saw Dev roaming around scot free. Maan did not tell her what he was doing and why? So she reacted to what she thought she had seen and heard. Now the situation is entirely reversed. He reacted to incomplete information- Seeing Geet and Dev at the farmhouse and then finding out Geet had forgiven Dev. She did not manage to tell him what she had done and why. So I dont know how we can blame either of them entirely for what happened

2) I don't think Maan had intentions of making Geet leave the house. But, again it was Geet's self-respect (as you call it)or ego (as I call it) which made her leave the place.
Flight or fight- she chose flight- very natural.

3) If you forgive Geet for so many flaws why not Maan for that one. By the way, again I think the way Geet had behaved that day in the office (the media fiasco), was indirectly behind that behavior of Maan.
I am not judging either of them- thats what I have been trying to say- they both are flawed and both have made mistakes- so the debate of who is more wrong is pointless😆.

flight-defiinitely not natural for a strong character, who according to many is the strongest female character on Indian tv!

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Posted: 14 years ago

#149

@ Ria di,

I am going now.

If I get okay will talk to you later.

Bye.

- SANJANA

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-pixie-

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Posted: 14 years ago

#150

Sanjana- I honestly dont know what I have written that made you cry- believe me that was not the intent...

I have only written what I took away from what was shown on screen. Begairat, safed khoon- I think are pretty harsh words- whether spoken in anger or casually- I am not someone who would take them too lightly. You may feel that they are not harsh or they were spoken in anger, so Geet should disregard them completely. Isnt that the beauty of debate? If you start crying because people see things differently from the way you see them- then its going to be very difficult for me to talk to you😛

Its just my opinion and you are completely free to disregard it and I am being very honest when I say, I meant absolutely no offense😃