Originally posted by: dolphinUSA
Oh em je.....someone seems very angry today...I better not tread in this territory...but then, agar main nahi karoongi toh kaun karega. I hope you remember, you think from Maan's perspective and I always think from Geet's side. So here I go...
Yes Dol, i am extremely angry with geet today. before we talk about perspective, i have to say, that i am a girl as well, and no matter how much i take maan's pov, i always understand geets perspective. its my nature to think like a girl and understand her feelings. i know i dont talk about her feelings soo much, but i understand them to the core.
Geet had just said that he is very important to her. But the next minute, all he did was tell her off for arranging a meeting in such a place, and that too for no fault of hers. And then he does things which leave her bewildered for she doesn't know why he was doing what he was doing - took her away when Bunty was staring at her, asked her to go away when Mr. Rawal was praising her, he moved her hair so her skin was no visible to anyone else....
Ok, now coming to the meeting. geet told maan about this meeting thing before she told him how imp he is to her. and maan never asked her to arrange that meeting, she did it herself. even than, maan said thankyou to her and appreciated her for her concern. so we have to give him that.
now coming to the things he did in manali. yar mujhay aik baat batao, geet ki common sense kahan hai ... i mean seriously yar ... ok .. she knows very very well that maan is madly in love with her. as u said below, he said said the three words or proposed her. yar i have to ask you, pyar kya hota hai. kya i love you kehna hi pyar hai. agar maan nay formally propose nahi kiya tu kya hwa ... when u know someone loves you and u love that someone, dont you feel to belong to that person. i mean loyalty kay liyay propose karna zaroori hota hai kya ... to be frank, its a big NOT in my books. loyalty pyar ka ehsaas hai, proposal ka nahi.
Now if he asked her to go ... yar as a girl, dont u feel whats going on around you. God has given this distinct quality to women, they feel it all. so if geet doesnt see maan's loving eyes on her, or she doesnt see mr. rawal was praising her and so maan asked her to go, its may be her fault for being sooo ignorant.
You see, she does not know he was jealous, or that he was trying to save her from the world. To her, he was just acting bossy. And she thought she had that much right to fight with him.
Yar, agar abhi bhi she thinks he treats her like an employee than i think i dont know anything about love, ya phir geet doesnt know anything about love. the maan has gone to his knees for her yar, ab aur kaisay kahay wo ... and about his ghussa, geet bhi kuch kam nahi, maan ki har baat ka ulta matlab geet hi laity hai, maan tu phir bhi hamseha donon kay darmiyan baat ko settle karta rehta hai.
Coming to the initial scene where they fight - OK I agree she went wrong when she said the engagement was natak...but if you think deeply, he has only said I want to spend my life with you. He hasn't proposed her for marriage or said he loves her.
as i said above, loyalty, pyar, ehsaas aur khayal karnay kay liyay propose karna zaroori nahi hota. agar geet nay har ehssas ki shart rakh di hai tu i am sorry, she doesnt have a clue what love is.
That confession and proposal is yet to come. His words may be enough for us to figure it all out, but being a small towner, a very young girl and being betrayed, I'm sure she is not going to assume anything. She loves him and respects him for sure...but something stops her from making it all official.
thats a good point, but i say again, hasn't he been doing it all for her ever since she came to Delhi and way before that. she knows that, but even than she ends up hurting him by saying stuff which is degrading. chalo i agree she doesnt want to trust anyone, but she is practically living in his house, he has done soo much for her, cant she, for that sake, show some respect in her words and attitude.
As for the RTM scene, well I'm most certain it's a dream...and I hope it's her dream. For only then, will she realize that what she said was wrong and more so, what she must do now. I don't think Maan will cross his limits to such an extent before hearing the 3 golden words from her.
Maan will never cross any limits here. we know maan this well. unless they have tied a knot, maan will never touch her. though she was pratically ready for everything ... now if thats a dream, good for her and her respect, but if its not, i was very disappointed in geet. and the fact that, you say she is not sure, he hasnt asked her to marry, etc. and even then, she was ready to give herself into that moment ... what shall i say about that. ya tu pyar hai, ya nahi hai. ya tu trust hai, ya nahi hai ... ab yeh kya hai ... a few minutes ago you told him its all a jhoot, and now u are practically in bed with the same man ... ab mein aur kya kahoon is pay.
Please note - the only reason he spoke in front of Mr. Rawal and company was because she had assured him that he is the most important person in her life. Had she not said that, Maan wouldn't have the daring to say in public 'Maan ki Geet'. It was her assurance that made him say all what he said.
This is where i agree with you 100 percent. thats why he spoke. you didnt read my yesterdays post, or you would have read about my thoughts on that scene. and i also wrote, i was soo proud of geet for telling maan how important he is, and her assurance gave him the right he showed on her. tu kya bura hai is main yar. aik lamhay she gives him all the rights, and the other lamhay she blames him for that ... seriously!!!
Now that she will realize what she needs to do, thanks to her dream, she will confess. I think confession is close...and it is her who will confess first. I'm 100% sure.
To me, the really dont feel the need of a verbal confession. maan has said enough to confess his love. if anyone needs a confession hers its geet. if anyone needs to show love here, it has to be geet. and than i hope, once she confesses, she stands by it. aisa na ho, aglay din phir she starts insulting maan and starts doubting his intentions.
OK it may sound all BS to you, but try to think rationally....and let me know if you feel better. For if you don't, then I have more I can share :-)
Nahi nahi yar, its not BS at all. u have a right to your POV and i am entitled to mine. so no offence there.
but i would love to hear more if u feel like it.
before i end my dialog, i have to say it again. i respect geets feelings and understand her POV, but as a woman i also feel, if you love a man and want to spend ur life with him, you have to show respect to him and appreciate him for his love often.
and i would also add, like it or not, but the fact is, maan has accepted her with her past and her pregnancy. not that he is ehsaanofying on her, but from a womans perspective, it is a very big thing. if she has reservations about his love, she should ask him directly. yeh hurtful baatain kehna ... i don't agree. all i say is, atleast be consistent in respecting the maan who really deserves it. aisa nahi kay u say i respect you, but actions mein tu nazar nahi aata ....
chalo yar, will wait to hear from you.
Love, K
Ufff Yeh Love Hai Mushkil
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