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Christie2017

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Posted: 7 years ago

#161

Sorry, forgot to add "not". I mean Baldev is not totally dumb.

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 7 years ago

#162

5/1/2017

What is love. What is the power of love. Well these are the most interesting questions but that on most occasions doesnt have a clear cut answer. Is love that has to be conquered, is love something that has to be claimed as a right or love a feeling. Can love make you beyhadh. Or should love be beyhadh. If love can be beyhadh what is the outcome of that beyhadh love. One thing you need to understand anything beyhadh is destuctive. So beyhadh love will also destroy. But do we need beyhadh love, yes we need. Why.

Because Sudha will go beyhadh for her revenge, Satrupa will go beyhadh for Anami, to get her daughter to LM. Sudha will do all the criminal practices still she is good in front of the world. A mentally unstable abla nari. None has been able to expose this woman in front of the world.

Satrupa is nothing less. To get Anami she will also manipulate, she will also create fear, she will also play backdoor games. Though not exactly criminal her methods or her way to get Anami are wrong. But at this point she is also good in front of the world. The all powerful LM bahu.

Now comes the third character Adhiraj. He loves Anami. He is happy seeing her happy. He as a man is not exploiting the girl at any point which he could have done easily. I loved the fact Adhi sat in the side seat than with Anami and Ladoo and he was hesitant to take her shawl. Can he love her beyhadh to become bad in front of the world for her sake.can he take the world's question to vindicate her. Can he do the adharma publicly and take the blame to protect her. Can his love withstand the assault of the society that is going to point fingers at him. if yes he will not only burn the Lanka called LM but at the same time deliver justice for his parents. Because only selfless love can make you bow in front of the world for your loved one.

And believe that is not this world expects. The world which prefers the mask ie chant the name of Ram and do the work of Ravan can never believe someone can do the job of Ravan in open for their loved ones and take the blame. Take the accountability. It will shake the very foundation of their existence. That's what is needed for LM.

Pandithayan has taught Anami sahi hai tho jhuko math, galat hai tho lado math. But what about the situation when you are both right and wrong. What about the situation when because people think you are wrong, someone bow their head for you. This is the area Anami has not known. This is the area she will learn in this journey that will make her a woman.

Now coming to symbolism. Anami falling in Adhi's lap. Well it was romantic but for me her reckless shouting will bring a fall for her where a sudden brake will come to her plans and he will be the cushion for that fall as he will manage it. As he says dont shout too much. Keep quiet. The tigress will have to calm down and yes she will calm down. Adhi bandega usse apne prem se.

Another interesting aspect. Adhi takes Anami from the bus showing his CBI officer identity. Sudha knows Anami has gone with those bhajan mandali. We need to see how this aspect plays out. But what I liked the most was Maya of LM was exposed by Adhi totally. Not only Anami but also Ladoo who was in the sack. it happened in public. So the truth will also come out in public and Adhi will be responsible for it through Anami and Ladoo

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 7 years ago

#163

Shreya I also dont want Narotham or Tanya to die. Like you I also wants Narotham to live, to become something and LM wasis to realize what they had done to an innocent child. I am really emphatic with him. Tanya is full of life. That life cannot be nipped in the bud. But then Chakravyuh demands bali and it cannot be bloodless.

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Gamayun

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Posted: 7 years ago

#164

Janas I agree with you. They fully TRPified today's Anami-Adhiraj scene. I get they are trying to show romance, but so far it's been subtle. They could have shown Adhiraj holding Anami before she fell. Or Adhiraj helping Anami up when she fell instead of this eyelock. I want realism, not this TRP romance.

As for the rest of the episode, I have nothing else to add. Shruthi you really covered it well. I didn't even see half the symbolism or deeper meanings that you did. Mainly because I'm angry at how the show has suddenly slowed down in pace and become more TRP friendly. SP has finally stuck their leg in and now I'm scared that the show will stumble because of it.

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simran_singh_24

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Posted: 7 years ago

#165

I loved today's episode.

Stage is set for next show down.
Satrupa's restlessness is being picked up by Dadi and BD, I liked how Vikku supported Satu to break open the door.
Anami was heading to Benares? Nothing has changed in the conditions that forced her to go to LM, then what's the point of going there?

I'm curious... she said she'll not return to LM alive

I'm happy that Adhi is taking her safely to wherever she wants to go.
Shruthi, that's the difference between his love and LM wasis. Both Satrupa and Gayathri say, "Go get Anami. We want her". Adhi puts her happiness above his love and helps her to run away from him, actually.

I'm excited to see how a CBI officer enables safe passage for his hard to hide half girl-friend and her brother, while Lal Mahal uses all it's power to stop that happening.

Oh! I absolutely loved the gleam in Laddo's eyes, he had redeemed himself for the mistake of calling Adhi Bhaiya last time.😆
Talking of symbolism, Anami offering her shawl is not just romantic, more her support/protection, just as he gave her his jacket.
Love this couple.

I liked Sat is back to her Mommy Don mode.No stopping this woman, when she charges like that.

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 7 years ago

#166

@simran they are each other's shield. To be frank I enjoyed that shawl wala scene than the catch one. As Shreya says the catch and fall as very much typical of TRP. 😃

@Shreya I have learned to co exist with TRP audience to some extend 😆😆 , upto the point I feel there is a story. Only if they go really bizarre I stop it altogether especially the shows I have invested some time into.

Simran remember ETR2 how it started and then the mess Avdhesh singh Chouhan and I had run away. 😆😆. RKC is nowhere near that point.

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Bella

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Posted: 7 years ago

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This romance totally turn me off🥱. I really hope next whole week not gone in this chor-police drama.! And honestly I don't see any chemistry between them 🥱. Ela is far good for Daroga then anami. And I m totally surprised by satrupa 😲😉. I just think she may be all crying and remember anami and how vatsalya also gone like this so she is more scared. But NO😉😎. She is back in her usual self😛. I like this strong headed satrupa. And what say about baldev😕 . Yesterday I think that may be he consoling sattu this time but nooo.🥱 and honestly satrupa behaves with him like he is not exist for her 🤣. She just not give him any damn.and Baldev also not have any respect for her 😲. I can't believe how they have kids together. !!!🤢🤪

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Gamayun

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Posted: 7 years ago

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Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@simran they are each other's shield. To be frank I enjoyed that shawl wala scene than the catch one. As Shreya says the catch and fall as very much typical of TRP. 😃
@Shreya I have learned to co exist with TRP audience to some extend 😆😆 , upto the point I feel there is a story. Only if they go really bizarre I stop it altogether especially the shows I have invested some time into.

Simran remember ETR2 how it started and then the mess Avdhesh singh Chouhan and I had run away. 😆😆. RKC is nowhere near that point.

Coexisting with TRP audience I accept. I also accept that they needed to make some changes to bring in more TRP. But they've changed so much drastically in the past 2 or so weeks, that it's hard to digest.

Many of the characters have become so different than what they were. Satrupa running on emotions suddenly makes no sense. Yes her accepting that she hid Ladoo away made sense, but everything since then it just doesn't. Gayatri is supposed to be perceptive. Suddenly she turns on Satrupa again? Pujan should be using this to his advantage. I know Praneet is also busy with Porus, but at least they could show Avdhoot and Kamini using Anami's escape to their advantage. Dheeru has completely disappeared. Shouldn't he be around given Satrupa asked him to train Anami? Ladoo suddenly appears fine. Then why doesn't he say anything about Sudha?

The story has slowed down so much! Ladoo's kidnapping and this escape has taken the better part of 2 weeks. By this time we could be on Anami's return to LM!

This TRP romance. I like Adhiraj and Anami jodi. But this is TRP romance. Falling, eyelock, stuttering, hearts fluttering, blah blah blah. Adhiraj accepting he loves Anami yes. Everything after that no. The shawl scene was nice and so was Adhiraj sitting separately from Anami. That fits, but everything else no.

Then let's move on to the reactions. The scene when Anami is escaping took a whole 10 minutes. Why? Because they need to show Anami's tension as she nears Gayatri and Vikram. They need to show every drop of sweat on Poonam's face. Seriously? What happened to the pace?!!

I'm starting to rant, but I had to get it out because I'm not very happy with the way the past 2 weeks or so have shaped up. I mentioned this in another thread, but before if I missed even one episode I felt like I had missed a lot and a WU wouldn't help. But in these past 2 weeks I missed half the episodes because of holidays and I didn't feel like I missed anything. That is not how RKC was.

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Mangothyme

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Posted: 7 years ago

#169

"The Crown must win, the Crown must always win" - Queen Mary (The Crown).

But what happens if the Crowned head also belongs to a woman ? Who is also a mother. How will it affect her motherhood, the way she mothers her children ? I am yet again reminded of the Crown, the real BRF and the fictional LM family parallels in today's episode.

Satrupa is a mother. She is also the mother of the heir to a royal family. She is also the bahu of a royal family. As such there will always be a conflict between the duties of a mother and to keep the heir safe. Most mothers will not be afraid their young children will have assassination attempts on their lives. But not the mother of a heir. Most mothers will not have to give up their children in order to keep the family line from ending. Satrupa had to do that. Satrupa fasted two days for the life of her child each year. Because he was heir. She gave a blood sacrifice each year to keep him safe. Because he was heir. But it was not enough. Her child died in an assassination attempt. But he put himself in that position by running away. For a heir is still a child, a boy Vatsalya who just wanted a little freedom. But the mother of the heir refused that simple request and the boy ran. He died and the mother in Satrupa died.

To save her vansh she brought her other child, the hidden child. Tore her ruthlessly with threats, from a loving family with an especially loving mother. Is it easier to love unconditionally if you are not the mother of a heir ? All we know is Panditayen will never have to make decisions Satrupa will have to make as the mother of the heir. Today that child Anami too ran away because in one weak moment Satrupa let the mother in her make a selfish decision. The mother of the heir is the LM Bahu to me. The mother is the purest form of Satrupa, the one who was Vatsalya's mother and yes, the selfish mother who put Ladoo in danger for Anami's love.

The juxtaposition between Vatsalya running and Anami running is interesting to me. I think they both use the same place to climb down. He uses a rope, she uses a ladder. She has help, he is alone. He goes at night, she is in daylight. He says goodbye to his parents, takes the blessing of his mom. She takes the blessings of her grandparents. Tej Singh the bodyguard has followed Vatsalya in secret. Adhi openly accompanies Anami and Ladoo. Anami is going home, Vatsalya just wanted freedom. Vatsalya never returned alive home and Tej Khan too. So what will happen to Anami and Adhi ?

Satrupa asks today "Kya kamithi meri mamta mein". I think she is asking that question about Vatsalya too. She has buried her feelings deep for him. She tried hard to replace him with Anami. She cannot do that because two people are not the same. Satrupa needs to confront a lot of feelings. Guilt for giving Anami away, guilt for refusing Vatsalya freedom, her grief over Vatsalya, why she lets people treat her this way. When she enters into the fire for the Agnipariksha that is coming these are the feelings that will come out and have to be confronted.

Prince Charles called the Queen cold and emotionless in a biography. He was very close to his grandmother. Same like how Anami is now. But his relationship with his mother did improve because the Crown did not always win. So will Anami's with Satrupa when she stops being mother of the heir and being just the mother.

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simran_singh_24

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Posted: 7 years ago

#170

@Shruthi-IMO, the makers of this show have a weakness for BW ,
they try to bring the grandeur,shock&awe feel typical of our masla movies.

They've a story and they're headed in the direction where they started from episode 1, so am not gonna begrudge their indulgence.

In fact, I appreciate their efforts, like y'day I loved the back ground of mist,hills,clouds when Adhi and Anami were parting.
It felt like a scene out of a movie.

So, yeah, trip-fall-eyelock are mandatory and I quite liked the way Adhi brushed off the awkwardness afterwards.

Shruthi, you can never imaging what they've done to ETR after we fled😆It's simply mind boggling work😆