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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: 2filmy

OK I have a request and a question

Now that Lopa knows Vaid is Chandra she will surely tell Nandini ?
Then how will she fight him knowing everything ?
Please keep Asur and hyena alive to see Chandra Nandini marriage
I will get sadistic pleasure from it
Hyenas prey on other's left over prey but here Malay can't do even that
So he is more pathetic than a hyena



Now Lopa knows... and Nandini also knows (through the scroll)...
Chandra will now have to find a middle path, keeping his Nandini alive and end the war too.
Yes, Asur Sasur (nice coinage of words you did 😊) and Hyena both will be alive, but not sure whether they will have the guts to see Chandra marrying Nandini 😃

You're right Priya. Hyena preys on left over prey from Lions and Tigers. Nandini is a left over prey by Chandra (after even winning her in Swayamvar, he couldn't marry her publicly). So, Malay tried to marry her (obviously goaded by Asur Sasur). Again, Chandra kidnapped Nandini right in front of Malay from his marriage mandap and actually rescued Nandini in the process. Yet again, Malay and Asur Sasur has agreed to marry Nandini as war alliance. Thats why I chose to use the word Hyena for Malay. Coz Hyenas are too lazy to hunt themselves. They keep begging for stray items left back by the predatory animals. Sick they are. But Asur Sasur is worse than Malay, a thorough politician. A total monster.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: 2filmy

I loved the tinge of pride in her voice for Chandra

When she said that Malay will die in her Chandra's hands

Ah, you noticed the unwritten emotion once again, girl 👏

Malay and his dad really underestimated Nandini good for her
Wow I just loved her reason to invoke Malay
She knows Malay is a big enemy for Chandra
And such enemies should be nipped in the bud
So she made the chance for Chandra to do so
Malay himself will come and fight Chandra in his vanity
Many of Chandra's men are dying for Malay and his dad too

@BOLD - Correct. If Chandra goes and argues with Malay unnecessarily, then it becomes a political argument. Then Asur will also plan a counter political move.
Instead, if Malay goes and fights Chandra on his own in his vanity, Asur father cannot protect him if Chandra retaliates (coz thats what a king is supposed to do... protect his kingdom from enemies). Then, Chandra will get more supporters than Asur Sasur from other kingdoms.

Wait Nandini is referring to Chandra as her husband to Lopa
So Lopa knows that they married ? I like it then

@BOLD - This is one point that I have argued within myself MOST... I thought only Chandra and Nandini only should know about their marriage. But if Lopa knows about Malay, about Nalini, about Neela's love, about Asur Sasur, then naturally she has to know her BEST Friend's love also...
As such, everyone knows about the Swayamvar which was stopped and Nandini had cared for his welfare at that time. Obviously Nandini should have shared about her marriage details to Lopa also ... friends share such details out of excitement in youth... and Nandini does not have anyone else in her camp to share her fears and feelings except Lopa. It would sound too stupid otherwise. So, thats why I thought of making Lopa aware of their marraige.
BUT... I am still contemplating - should Lopa know about every marraige that Nandini did with Chandra? That wouldn't make Nandini a good Queen / Politician no?

Nandini indeed created a scope for Chandra to settle scores both ways
It's so clear Chandra is so proud of her now
Nandini acted in such way that all purposes will be fulfilled in a single action

Exactly. I wanted the reader to know that she is equally a good planner / diplomatic politician.

Chandra calls Malay hyena I think he's worse than a hyena
In any challenge between them finally he will get Gandhar
So Chanakya had predicted about Nandini's ability long back ?
He was very wise and insightful then
Lopa is so at ease with the Vaid now that she doesn't hesitate to ask his help to lift Nandini

Generally, in a big mansion / royal household, all workers stand together. Lopa being a woman, would not be in a position to lift a sick Nandini all by herself. So I thought she should take help from a man, albeit an old man, for some support on the other shoulder.
Also, I had to make Nandini see the nail marks on Vaidji hands. Unless he comes near her, she wont notice. So, thats why i made Lopa call him.
But, as you noticed correctly from the previous chapters, she and vaidji had developed a comfort towards each other and work as a team for helping Nandini. 👏

Poor Nandini saw the wounds her nails had made and was so sorry for it and wanted to remedy it right then but her body gave way then and lost to fatigue

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: 2filmy

Vaid tried to reassure her but she was in such a state where the words were blurred to her

Unconsciously she again took support and strength from him... this touched my heart
Poor Vaid found it so hard to manage her then as she needed his support more than the paste then
He did both together so had to use both his hands ; it must have been a bit difficult for him

When we fall ill, we become children, no matter how big we grow na? Atleast I do become a child when i fall sick and get scolding from Mom for not eating medicines, unless she gives me with her own hands 😉 I digress...
The unconscious attraction between them, making use of the little time available to them in their short lived marraige, and caring for each other -is what i attempted to portray. And from your comment, i think it worked 😳


Lopa talked to her more about Malay to keep her conscious but it was equally good for Vaid to get as much info as he could

And good for me too 😊, coz I can now move forward with the story 😆

A coward like Malay wont really want to fight Chandra as I am sure he knows his own strength well
Even a lunatic understands what is good for himself so he will try to avoid open war with Chandra
It is so adorable how Lopa considers Vaid Ji as a team member now and treats him so
Wow so she had a huge load inside her and Vaid ji touch let her free herself of the burden
So Parvatak wanted her body and enjoy her tying her up ? Yuck sicko lecher pervert deranged
Why can't Nandini trap him and give him shock treatment? Better still leave a king cobra in his tent

🤣 Your verbal abuses on the Asur Sasur is so cute, Priya... I was actually imagiining you saying that.. Yes, I will give a worse punishment to the deranged monster.

Pervert made a solid plan to trap her if she didn't eavesdrop she wouldn't have known it too
He was discussing it with his wife and she was enjoying it? enjoying the plight of other women being a woman herself? she is equally sick then
So Malay is impotent and an agent to catch women for the pervert? The pervert enjoys all the women in Malay's chamber?

Yes... Budda ek dam political planner hain na?
Actually, kings those days could pick up any woman from their kingdom and marry them. Coz King and God were considered equal to a common man. So, Malay had to show that he "does" have potential in his seeds, by kidnapping women.. but in reality, he cant use them. Pervert, as such a King, has more royal and extreme rights to do anything he wants in his Kingdom. So, he enjoys them in his fort and nobody can question him and come out alive. It is irrelevant which chamber he rapes them, when the whole Kingdom belongs to him. 😉

Women, especially the Queens, had lot of competitions from other Queens in terms of Power, in terms of giving birth to First Heir to the throne, in terms of being the favourite of the King etc ... And all Queens put together had competitions from lesser royal mortals like the beautiful Pros****, Dancers, Courtesans, etc.. coz the king can summon anybody any time. So they generally remained mute parties to what their husband did. They did not have much say in many matters. Thats why they throw their weight around on others - like what Avantika and Nalini does...
Here, the lady is his wife and Malay's Mother too. She does not want the world to know about her son, and so is emotionally threatened to keep her mouth shut to what her husband does. Shit, I should have written this. I could have brought one more shade to the woman characters of that era.



Nandini knew a lot about medicines and she is very observant so must have seen Malay take them and known he can't harm her so agreed to the war. Wow she really had taken a lot of precaution and protection.

After being kidnapped and rescued by Chandra from Malay's marriage, if she is still agreeing to marry him - then, along with poltiical motive, there has to be a intelligent motive expected from an intelligent girl like her no? So, thats why I wrote that line...

I loved Vaid reaction. He is beyond himself in rage. The fire in him now will cool only after killing them both and invading Gandhar. I know he will save the women there. Poor Nandini was in such deep trauma

Correctly observed, Priya ⭐️ Here, he is taking decision both as a Husband and as a King. Both Malay and Asur has to die by his hands for what they have planned to do with his wife. But he also plans to invade Gandhar to rescue the poor women who are / were subjected to such ill treatment. As such, he really respects women. But his motive for invasion of another kingdom is not an ambitious one, but more like a Rescue Mission. And you correctly captured that point.

Edited by FrankPunch - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: 2filmy

I think Lopa heard the sound of the tumbler breaking but she was too shocked with Nandini words to react.

Yippie... I thought with Lopa's monologue (when she draws sword against chandra) people would have understood this also. But you are right, I should have added this point too to her monologue.

But I am happy she revealed all this now she is light and will feel better
Please explain me something
does Parvatak do it as his son is impotent or as he is just a pervert?
I mean if Malay was normal would he have done it ?

All subjects of a kingdom belongs to the King. A king was considered equal to God. SO, Kings those days enjoyed a lot of women - giving birth to AS MANY children as possible - just in case the first child dies (those days abortions were common, children dying due to cholera and other diseases were common), there will be others to carry on the legacy if the king dies / gets captured. So yes, Parvatak IS a pervert. A royal pervert. If Malay was normal, he would be even more dangerous than his father ... we now how his nature is, right? 😊

He really has a fool proof policy. A girl will be ashamed to admit her husband is impotent and she was raped by her sasur. Asur rather. Even if she somehow tells it to her dad he would be too weak to react nor can he take help from any other king in the shame. If he is dependent on Asur he wont betray him.

I like the coinage of words "Asur Sasur". Suits Parvatak absolutely. 👏

Only good solution is a whispering rumor from such a weak king that Malay is impotent and Asur rapes all his wives.
why has no one attempted it yet ? How come no one has thought about it ?

Whispering rumour will be there... Just as Nandini has observed, Malay's doctors also would know about his "weakness" . So obviously whispering rumours will be there.

Asking for Nandini was the easiest option as everything was in his favor and no resistance at all.
He played all his moves really well and Nandini was truly trapped here with apparently no way out
I can't decide who is worse Nand or this Asur now

@RED - Both future plots. Cant reveal now. But Nandini is trapped only temporarily. Hubby dear has heard it all, na ? 😉 He will take care of her.

She knew Chandra respected women so will save them all once he invades Gandhar
So the only way to save the women was to incite and provoke Malay against Chandra

Once again, a better reason "why she chose CHANDRA" as an opponent for Malay... The other kings will have an eye only on Gandhar for land, fortune and prosperity ... But Chandra will capture Gandhar only to rescue the innocent women victims (both past, present and future)... The greater good should shine even in an evil attempt.

I still think someone can go out of Gandhar and spread the news as a whispering rumor
Malay isn't fighting to let Nand's army reduce every day so that there is not army when Malay Nandini marriage happens. Why will they fight unnecessarily
I also feel as it is Malay and his army can't stand against Chandra and his army even for a single day

Can people fight against a King, when their own King shakes in his thighs 😆


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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: 2filmy

Vaid ji could vent his anger only by pounding the medicine and imagining it to be the Asur and Malay.

When we are angry, we should try concentrating on something useful and constructive, rather than breaking things and yelling. That will take away our anger and will also not destroy anything worthwhile. Vaidji chose the pounding machine, so that he could treat Nandini and take out his anger at the same time.

Lopa should have known that telling Avantika is the same as talking to a brick wall
Avantika doesn't care for Nandini at all and she just wants Nand free at any cost so it's just useless
Poor Nandini she knows everything yet can even escape for her people and kingdom what an ill luck
Ruling a kingdom really comes with a huge price. She doesn't have any right on her life.

True, Priya. Actually, thats why the royals were given more physical comfort by the people - Coz, a King, a Kshatriya is supposed to sacrifice his own life for his people when the time comes - like a lion protecting its territory. They are supposed to be guardians of the prosperity that belongs to that land - that kingdom.
But over a period of time, the royals started taking it for granted - that servants are there to serve them, they deserve royal comfort and luxury. Slowly, guardians became rulers, and then tyrants. Power has the capacity to turn even the noble ones no?

She is right. Everyone wants something from this war. but no one is thinking even a bit for the people.
Chandra winning is the only best option as he will establish golden rule in the kingdom.
He will be truly a people's king and they will be satisfied under his rule she knows it so well
Once again her confidence in him is so adorable and heart warming to see

Once again, both the thoughts of Chandra and Nandini are aligned - towards their People's welfare, not towards their own life.

Her decision is too harsh. But I agree with her deduction fully too.
It's indeed true deep love when one can die at the hands of the beloved so peacefully and happily
Her people & kingdom stopped her from living life her own way but at least she can die by her choice

You have put it more beautifully than me, Priya ⭐️

I think here Vaid made a slip by his swift movement and Lopa too saw it clearly
But she didn't react now as her main priority was Nandini
Vaid talks to keep Nandini awake and reminds her of small details that he shouldn't be knowing
As those all were very personal details but Nandini isn't in her sense to notice it
It was as if Vaid was advocating for Chandra to Nandini

When you see your love in pain, somewhere it shakes you up, despite all the careful checks. Chandra had been in control of himself for way too long. and Nandini's deteriorating condition drives him crazy to take instant action to save her. So yes, he slipped.
Ah, there, you noticed it again... This Nandini did not reveal during her conversations even with Lopa / Neela ... He knows talking about Chandra gives her more energy. He also wanted her to know that he will NEVER kill her, despite her tries. And thats when he gets her gory plans in details.

Poor Nandini she revealed her plans for the next day to him
She made it clear that she will leave him with no other choice at all
She feels he will have to do it for the benefit for his people
But I think he will somehow find out a middle ground well

Again, a perfect understanding of a couple who have not had time to live together...
Yes, he will find out a middle path - now that he knows exactly how she has planned to hit his weakness - His People and the Greater Good.

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: 2filmy

Finally Lopa joined the dots and understood this wasn't a common Vaid at all

I must say she is very observant and keeps her eyes and ears open
She is also very smart and has learnt a lot of things from Nandini
I am really impressed with Lopa as I didn't expect anything as such from her
I think she was just waiting for an opportunity to strike him
As previously she was only concerned for Nandini
But now that she is fully unconscious she gave her full attention to the Vaid

True. Nandini was losing out and she needed Vaidji's help in medicines. Once Nandini collapsed, she charged on him. She's a cute girl, isnt she? I think you, Neha and I like her very much. Neha also loved her character.

I literally laughed at Chandra reaction how calmly he commented about her sword skills
He wasn't at all bothered about the attack and Lopa held the sword on his forehead ?
That made me smile again. it shows she really is a novice but still is ready to defend Nandini
It clearly shows her love loyalty and protectiveness for Nandini
So Lopa recognized him and asked him to not reveal his face in the enemy tent

After such a gruesome scene, I thought i will add some humour to the scene.😊 Also, I wanted to show that Lopa is a servant girl, not a fighter woman, but very loyal to her friend. She cannot handle a sword, thats why she thought of offering herself to Malay, instead of killing him. But the thought of protecting Nandini when she is unconscious, even if she has to fight with a sword, shows her loyalty and readiness for sacrifice. But Chandra found out that she is a novice with the way she handled the sword 😃

Chandra is too happy that Nandini has someone as Lopa to guard and protect her
He trusts Lopa now and I agree with his suggestion for Lopa to have sword practice
Chandra himself wont be always with Nandini so some one trustworthy has to be with her who is fully equipped to protect her against any possible attack
His earnest heart felt request to Lopa to take care of her for now just melted me
Any one else in his place would have ordered Lopa to take care of her
These two are just perfect soulmates for each other
Both always place other before themselves

Only when you are in deep trouble, you will be able to recognise true friends who will stand by you. And he found out besides Badal, there is now Lopa for Nandini !
@BOLD - That shows he is still humble, even after becoming a King. No airs at all. And a husband, asking his wife's friend to take care of her (that reminded me of Neha...)

How come Lopa knows where is Badal ?

Badal is a horse (as you must have found out by now) so he will be in the stable. Now you must have guessed how Badal is related to Nandini no? 😊

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Posted: 7 years ago
Is this the first time Nandini told Lopa that Chandra is her husband ?
Or did Lopa know that she considered him as her husband from the Swayamvar ?
If this is the first time she knows it she did not give any reaction
Of course I know he will find a good middle path
He will find a perfect solution
He is really an asur sasur. I wish they are forced to play as a band party in their marriage
That will be so much fun to see
Of course the hyena is bad but the asur is pure evil
He is the mastermind behind all these plans
You really gave a perfect name to Malay here

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Posted: 7 years ago
Of course she wanted to verify whom she will actually marry
She knew the confirmed truth now by Malay's actions
It would have been impossible for even Nandini to guess asur plan of action
Of course she is a people's princess so she wants their welfare

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Posted: 7 years ago
Of course Chandra should not start a fight with Malay
He should just wait for the right time place and opportunity
Malay himself will give him all of these
I am sure other kings know how Asur is
And they also know how Chandra is
So he will get more support for sure
Lopa knows of the Swayamvar only as of now
I will love it if the blood marriage is a secret between just the 2 lovers only
The less details Lopa knows the better and I want Nandini to keep some things totally private too
Chandra Nandini are perfect partners even in politics
Of course she would not be able to lift Nandini all alone by herself
So she took help from Vaid
Aww so sweet of Nandini to see the nail marks even in that state
Lopa and Vaid are really a great team
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Posted: 7 years ago
When we fall ill I think most of us become a bit moody and fussy
Mothers take care of us with extra TLC then
They pamper us for some time and we enjoy it fully
I wish after the war ends they get ample time for romance
And that too with the doors of their room closed in complete privacy
Yes finally you can proceed to the present now
My head was on fire while reading what the Asur had planned
I would have gone into the screen and wrangled his neck if I could
Tell me some thing please
In those day ladies used to have poison with them
Some of them even had poison in their rings
Then instead of living such a life why did they not commit suicide ?
How come no spy can spread the word out ?
Reading what you wrote I was in 2 minds if I should feel pity for Asur wife
But then I thought she being a woman was letting other women suffer in hell
So I wont waste my sympathy on some one like her
She agreed to marry Malay under dire circumstances and she was just helpless
Yes his winning Gandhar will free all those women
He can also take his personal revenge on Malay and Asur

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