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Posted: 13 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: Maria.

here is true defination of Iddah...

*credit goes to an islamic site*

Iddah (Waiting Period for a Widow)

What is Iddah?

The literal meaning of Iddah is to keep count. In Islamic legal terminology, it is the period after her husband's demise, in which the woman has been instructed to refrain from getting married again.

The period of Iddah:

According to the directives of Allah SWT, the waiting period for widows is four months and ten days. "And those of you who die and leave wives behind them, they (the wives) shall wait (as regards their marriage) for four months and ten days." (Surah Al-Baqarah, Verse 234 If the widow is pregnant, then the waiting period is till the birth of the child, irrespective of whether it is before the 4 month 10 days period or several months after it. "And for those who are pregnant, their Iddah (prescribed period) is until they lay down their burden; " (Surah At-Talaq, Verse 4)

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1.To refrain from adornment.

A widow observing the waiting period, should not beautify herself in any way or wear ornaments. She should not wear attractive clothes or bright colors. All kinds of make-up including henna and kohl is forbidden; neither can she apply perfume or wear jewellery.
Wisdom: The wisdom of this instruction to adopt simplicity is two-fold: it is done to show respect and honour for the sanctity of the marriage bond and the time spent with her husband; also to avoid the possibility of receiving marriage proposals.

2.To avoid going out.

During the waiting period, the widow should not leave her house except if it is for some important reason (the necessity of which is left to her judgement based on her Taqwa- her love, respect and fear of Allah).

Livelihood Requirements:

During the waiting period, if there is no one else to do this for her, a widow is allowed to go out for absolutely unavoidable tasks, such as going to the doctor, taking the children to school, shopping for groceries etc Similarly, if she has no one to provide for her and no other means of income, and she needs to earn her livelihood, then it is permissible to take up employment, resume her job in order to ensure it's continuity, or as is the case in villages, to work on the land and tend to the cattle. However the other conditions of Iddah must be observed i.e. simplicity and lack of adornment and returning home before nightfall. (Allah knows best)



ur right dear
but there is an option of rojhoo in islam...
and if ur read surah baqar 228 ayat ...and conspt of thre timess tallauq u will understnd wht i am saying...
fiqahan there diffrence in approchs...
and jo mein ny define kiya hai yeah safahy fiqah mein concpet hai... i thing ur difrent so it will be diffrent from ur concpt...

Ref: Quran tafseer by Mullana Sulahuddin yousuf
Edited by drfizaahmed - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: drfizaahmed



ur right dear
but there is an option of rojhoo in islam...
and if ur read surah baqar 228 ayat ...and conspt of thre timess tallauq u will understnd wht i am saying...
fiqahan there diffrence in approchs...
and jo mein ny define kiya hai yeah safahy fiqah mein concpet hai... i thing ur difrent so it will be diffrent from ur concpt...

Ref: Quran tafseer by Mullana Sulahuddin yousuf

i am Suni..i dont belong to any other fiqqa..
let me clear,the thing which were you saying in your previous comment it hapenes when a man says his wife'i give you talaq"and during the period of second talaq if he wanted to get back together they can..
But after saying three times these words'talaq.talaq.talaq'
there is no relation left between them so now the woman is on Iddah ,mean she cant remarry in this period but after iddat she can remarry..
i have read many islamic books moreover in our house there are huge collection of books on Sunit-e.Nabi,Allah ka shukar hai we know about our Deen..
You know Fiza its about our Deen so we have to be careful giving any statment..
Edited by Maria. - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#83

i am posting about condition of Talaq which will clear the concept of ''Rujhoo'

Creadit goes to An Islamic site..

Divorce in the Shari'ah


"Generally speaking married couples make their best efforts to continue their marital relations in cordiality and happiness."(1) There are those occasions where it becomes impossible for a couple to maintain a viable relationship (i.e. neglect, abuse, etc.). In these cases "the Shari'ah takes a very reasonable view of such an intolerable situation and instead of forcing the couple to stay together..."(2) it permits a divorce.

There are three kinds of divorce in Islam:

The first is Talaq (by the husband) and the second is Talaq Al-Bida'h (Divorce of Innovation) and Khul' (by the wife).

Talaq

Talaq has two forms:

1. Talaq ar-Raji': (revocable divorce) which has two types:

    Talaq Ahsan: (the most approved divorce). It is meant as a means to heal the breach between a couple and allow for the soothing of frayed nerves. It has three conditions. The husband must only pronounce one Talaq. The Talaq must be only pronounced when the wife is in a state of purity. The husband must abstain from sexual contact with his wife for the 'iddah (the waiting period) which is three months.
  • Talaq Hasan: (approved). In this form divorce is pronounced in three successive periods. After the first two the husband has the right to take his wife back if they so desire to reunite but if he pronounces divorce a third time it becomes irrevocable. The wife must marry another at this time.

2. Talaq al-Bain: (irrevocable divorce). This is a divorce that with three pronouncements in successive sittings or at the same sitting or before the consummation of the marriage. There is no return allowed under these circumstances unless the woman has an intervening marriage.

"Talaq is a right available mainly to the husband, but not to the wife. Even though Islam allows divorce, the Prophet (pbuh) says: 'Of all things that Islam has permitted, divorce is the most hated by Allah.' Hasty and wanton use of the right of divorce is regarded as most condemnable in Islam." (3)

Surah Al-Baqarah 229: "A divorce is only permissible twice. After that the parties should either hold together on equitable terms or separate with kindness."

This could be likened to the "three strikes and you're out" policy.

Talaq Al-Bida'h (Divorce of Innovation)

This was a type of divorce that made its appearance after the death of the Prophet (pbuh). It is where the man pronounces Talaq three times at one sitting or sends it in writing to his wife. This is a sin against the precepts of the Shari'ah and was severely denounced by the Prophet and Khalif 'Umar would whip a husband who did such a thing....

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Bold...you were talking about this kind of divorce but after prononced three times word'Talaq'
divorce happnes and then they cant Rujhoo in Iddah.then she waits for 4 monhths and 10 days..
Edited by Maria. - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i am sorry Fiza for intrruption but as it was about Islam,so i could not hold myself,yetserday i have searched many sites and got this info so everyone can understand the meaning of Talaq 'Rujhoo and Iddah ..
i dont want any person to get in doubt about our Islam.. concept must be clear..
Edited by Maria. - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: Maria.

i am posting about condition of Talaq which will clear the concept of ''Rujhoo'

Creadit goes to An Islamic site..

Divorce in the Shari'ah


"Generally speaking married couples make their best efforts to continue their marital relations in cordiality and happiness."(1) There are those occasions where it becomes impossible for a couple to maintain a viable relationship (i.e. neglect, abuse, etc.). In these cases "the Shari'ah takes a very reasonable view of such an intolerable situation and instead of forcing the couple to stay together..."(2) it permits a divorce.

There are three kinds of divorce in Islam:

The first is Talaq (by the husband) and the second is Talaq Al-Bida'h (Divorce of Innovation) and Khul' (by the wife).

Talaq

Talaq has two forms:

1. Talaq ar-Raji': (revocable divorce) which has two types:

    Talaq Ahsan: (the most approved divorce). It is meant as a means to heal the breach between a couple and allow for the soothing of frayed nerves. It has three conditions. The husband must only pronounce one Talaq. The Talaq must be only pronounced when the wife is in a state of purity.

    The husband must abstain from sexual contact with his wife for the 'iddah (the waiting period) which is three months.

  • Talaq Hasan: (approved). In this form divorce is pronounced in three successive periods. After the first two the husband has the right to take his wife back if they so desire to reunite but if he pronounces divorce a third time it becomes irrevocable. The wife must marry another at this time.

2. Talaq al-Bain: (irrevocable divorce). This is a divorce that with three pronouncements in successive sittings or at the same sitting or before the consummation of the marriage. There is no return allowed under these circumstances unless the woman has an intervening marriage.

"Talaq is a right available mainly to the husband, but not to the wife. Even though Islam allows divorce, the Prophet (pbuh) says: 'Of all things that Islam has permitted, divorce is the most hated by Allah.' Hasty and wanton use of the right of divorce is regarded as most condemnable in Islam." (3)

Surah Al-Baqarah 229: "A divorce is only permissible twice. After that the parties should either hold together on equitable terms or separate with kindness." (talluq third finally talluq)

This could be likened to the "three strikes and you're out" policy.

Talaq Al-Bida'h (Divorce of Innovation)

This was a type of divorce that made its appearance after the death of the Prophet (pbuh). It is where the man pronounces Talaq three times at one sitting or sends it in writing to his wife. This is a sin against the precepts of the Shari'ah and was severely denounced by the Prophet and Khalif 'Umar would whip a husband who did such a thing....

*****************************************
Bold...you were talking about this kind of divorce but after prononced three times word'Talaq'
divorce happnes and then they cant Rujhoo in Iddah.then she waits for 4 monhths and 10 days..




yes ur right at ur last line but read the lines in bold and underline again..wht they are defining... u can only rojho during the period of "iddat" ,,,that is the point

evrytime u give talluq iddat period strts...but after the third time the option of remarying the same person closes... yet iddat began again... removing the option of going back to the one


if i am wrong here pls tell me how long should a woman wait that her husband will cum back if iddat is not the period... live long...

point B... Surah Baqar... three times talluq.. mentioned or not

Point C.. u cant be just sunhi... sunhi are divided in to clases acording to the Imaam they follow..
like Imam Hanifa are called hanifi...


plus i never said that after three times talluq u can live togther...


i will define i more detail address this topic though i mention many a times details skipping yet i think i need to address it will fiqah's also...

Edited by drfizaahmed - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: Maria.

i am sorry Fiza for intrruption but as it was about Islam,so i could not hold myself,yetserday i have searched many sites and got this info so everyone can understand the meaning of Talaq 'Rujhoo and Iddah ..

i dont want any person to get in doubt about our Islam.. concept must be clear..





But my dear frnd ur reference is not rite... for ur help i will tell u donot take reference from site... as there are many many wch are tooo fake...so be carfull

and i have answered ur question too... above post
not to be sorry ... u have every right to correct me if i am wrong... 😊
but at religion cost i wont be saying anything just like that...but still i will address it more defined and detail...


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Maria.

i am Suni..i dont belong to any other fiqqa..dear that cant be true... there are whole loads of differnce from one suhi to other... even the way they offer prayers...

let me clear,the thing which were you saying in your previous comment it hapenes when a man says his wife'i give you talaq"and during the period of second talaq if he wanted to get back together they can..
But after saying three times these words'talaq.talaq.talaq'


there is no relation left between them so now the woman is on Iddah ,mean she cant remarry in this period but after iddat she can remarry..
i have read many islamic books moreover in our house there are huge collection of books on Sunit-e.Nabi,Allah ka shukar hai we know about our Deen..
You know Fiza its about our Deen so we have to be careful giving any statment.. i am not at all giving statments im defining thinks im not a mufti that i will be na awzubillah giving statements here and that so for a useless point

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Fiza..u r taking things too much wrongly and where come Fiqah there..
i am talking about what Quran said..
n yeah ur that statement was totally wrong..
i am not a child who cant diffrentiate between a fake and true beside this i have huge collections of Islamic books in our house,my own chaha is doing"tableegh"
i dont believe in any fiqah..i believe on ONe GOd ,His book and HIS LAST Prophet Hazrat Muhammad and what He said to us
Edited by Maria. - 13 years ago

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