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Posted: 13 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: drfizaahmed




yes ur right at ur last line but read the lines in bold and underline again..wht they are defining... u can only rojho during the period of "iddat" ,,,that is the point

evrytime u give talluq iddat period strts...but after the third time the option of remarying the same person closes... yet iddat began again... removing the option of going back to the one


if i am wrong here pls tell me how long should a woman wait that her husband will cum back if iddat is not the period... live long...

point B... Surah Baqar... three times talluq.. mentioned or not

Point C.. u cant be just sunhi... sunhi are divided in to clases acording to the Imaam they follow..
like Imam Hanifa are called hanifi...


plus i never said that after three times talluq u can live togther...


i will define i more detail address this topic though i mention many a times details skipping yet i think i need to address it will fiqah's also...

@u said in ur previous comment after giving tallaq they can again rujhoo and live as husband and wife...check ur statement that makes things totally wrong..
Fiza..i am muslim and moreover Islamiat was my subject i have read history of Islam..
u r urself dividing people in FIQAH while i am talking and saying on the basis of Quran..
Edited by Maria. - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: Maria.

Fiza..u r taking things too much wrongly and where come Fiqah there..

i am talking about what Quran said..
n yeah ur that statement was totally wrong..
i am not a child who cant diffrentiate between a fake and true beside this i have huge collections of Islamic books in our house,my own chaha is doing"tableegh"
i dont believe in any fiqah..i believe on ONe GOd ,His book and HIS LAST Prophet Hazrat Muhammad and what He said to us





ufff... MAria clam down first neither i m doubting in ur belives or ur studies.. u might have .. i have no issues...
u may be invlove in tableegh i dont have anything to say on tht...
but u cant deny the facts...
as u do only belive on HIS book,.. no i have to speak that way... i really donot want to confuse readers who have no understnding and no intrest in all yet i have to addres it now...
in pretty much detail...
As i am sorry i cant understnd were u want be to correct the words...

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Posted: 13 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: Maria.

@u said in ur previous comment after giving tallaq they can again rujhoo and live as husband and wife...chexck ur statement that makes things totally wrong..

Fiza..i am muslim and moreover Islamiat was my subject i have read history of Islam..
u r urself diving people in FIQAJH while i am talking and saying on the basis of Quran..




maria why ur taking it personally

and whts wrong with the statment... let me know...

yes after giving talluq ( one time or twice) they can rojoho so wht wrong with it and even there i said again again there are details attached to it.. and im not going into...and if u want i can go into it
there alots of thinks u have to concern for wch hadis and mufti's... and for tht no matter wht... u cant deny it that there are fiqahs and there slight change in belive
i am not dividing islam yet i am telling the truth dividing a contry into states doesnt divided the coutnry itself...


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Posted: 13 years ago
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kuch muslims mein yeah baat mani jati hai k agar husband jis ny tallaq di hai..us ko regret ho..aur woh wapas apni biwi ko apni life mein chahta hoo aur biwi bhi yeahi chati hoo tu woh is period mein asa ker sakta hai... aur woh dono wapas se husband n wife ki taraha rah sakty hain...
@bold...i am talking about ur these words,do u think these words are giving right meaning of Iddaht or tallaq..
Edited by Maria. - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Fiza..i have no issue with the topic u choosed or u want to give details or not..i am just concern about Islam.. i just want to request you please clear the concept so no one can get in doubt about Islam..thats it..
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Posted: 13 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: drfizaahmed




maria why ur taking it personally

and whts wrong with the statment... let me know...

yes after giving talluq ( one time or twice) they can rojoho so wht wrong with it and even there i said again again there are details attached to it.. and im not going into...and if u want i can go into it
there alots of thinks u have to concern for wch hadis and mufti's... and for tht no matter wht... u cant deny it that there are fiqahs and there slight change in belive
i am not dividing islam yet i am telling the truth dividing a contry into states doesnt divided the coutnry itself...


i am not taking it personally.. i have just concern about Islam..
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Posted: 13 years ago
#97

API...
apne pm kiya tha na toh mujhe laga ke Update hoga bt yeha toh update nhi hain...toh PM kisliye tha???
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Anila-


API...
apne pm kiya tha na toh mujhe laga ke Update hoga bt yeha toh update nhi hain...toh PM kisliye tha???



aray woh tu islayn kiya tha k mehak nny kaha tha she didnt got pm tu mjhy lagao shayad aur ko bhi na mila ho...
per ab ek pm daloo ki to see the note


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Posted: 13 years ago
#99
I.am lovin it . Fiza one requedt ye .. plz try to make bit more of hindi , if possble . most of the time I lost makin the word
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Posted: 13 years ago

NOTE


Oki for those who wants to go in details………..

Aur jo loog apni biwiyon se rishta na rekhan chahny ki kasam kahay in k liyan 4 mahinay mudaat hai ..ah phir agar woh laut aay tu Allah beksahny wala hai ( surah baqar 226)

Yeah talluq dono martaba hain.. ya tu achi se rukh lay( iddat k andar) na… ya phir undigi se chor dayna… ( surah baqar 229)

Okay there is huge clash going on the iddat part….and I define it yet Maria do have certain things against it…and I certainly repect her point.. and I think I may have miss sumthing leading to this huge clash…

Previously in coment to Ruchi I defined it

iddat ek period hai..4 months k, ya 3 PMS k...jo us waqt se strt hojata hai jab larki ko ya tu divorce ho ya us k husband maar jay... during that period she cant remarry...
kuch muslims mein yeah baat mani jati hai k agar husband jis ny tallaq di hai..us ko regret ho..aur woh wapas apni biwi ko apni life mein chahta hoo aur biwi bhi yeahi chati hoo tu woh is period mein asa ker sakta hai... aur woh dono wapas se husband n wife ki taraha rah sakty hain...

magar ek baar yeah period khatam hogaya tu kuch nhi hoskta... aur as per muslim law... for example...

agar gunjan k shadi mayank se hoti hai...aur mayank us ko tallaq day ta hai... aur iddat k time bhi pora hojay tu now... mayank kitna hi chahy gunjan se shadi nhi kersakta...untill..."halala" nah hojay...

halala means gunjan ko kisi aur se shadi kerni hogi...e.g samrat se...us k sath as a wife rehna hoga... aur us k baad by chance divorce hojay samrat se tu woh mayank se shadi ker sakty gi..wanra no way

I didn't went to details of how many talluqs believing that muslim's here pretty well knew all the rules themselves….and as it has nothing to do with the story so I wasn't getting in details…

So talluq 3 times hoti hai…

Husband ny wife ko talluq di … on a moment saying mein talluq dayta hoon….( for hanifi fiqah ) yeah ek talluq hai …..

Aur mein taluq dayta hoon, talluq dayta hoon, talluq dayta hoon….. yeah 3 times talluq hai .. chahy ek hi waqt mein kahi jay..

But for me as I belive in words of Quran ,… and fiqah Shafi…also…

As us ayat mein talluq do murataba hai.. do talluq nhi…

Yeah talluq dono martaba hain.. ya tu achi se rukh lay( iddat k andar) na… ya phir undigi se chor dayna… ( surah baqar 229)

so we belive

husband ny ek moment per kaha

mein tum ko talluq dayta hoo, talluq dayta hoon taaluq dayta hoon

ya kaha

mein tum ko talluq day ta hoon

yeah dono hi 1 talluq mani jay gi

aur is k baad iddat k wqat shoror hoga…agar woh dono chay tu razamndi k sath, wasp rojho ker sakty hain….

Magar 4 mahinay ya 3 Pm k time period mein hi

Magar agar auraat ny talluq mangi jis ko hum KHola bhi kahty hain tu us mein iddat k waqt ek PM hota hai

..

Refernce to all this surah Baqarah…. Tafseer by Mulana Sulahauddin yousuf… the tafesser is published under religious department for KSA..

……………….

kuch muslims mein yeah baat mani jati hai k agar husband jis ny tallaq di hai..us ko regret ho..aur woh wapas apni biwi ko apni life mein chahta hoo aur biwi bhi yeahi chati hoo tu woh is period mein asa ker sakta hai

kuch muslim as fiaqahan difference hai( Maria.. u don't believe in it I respect tht but many doo…)…tu I was referring to it…

and I pretty well now explain wht it is…

hope its okay now..and its understand able too

any issues regarding it, u can pm whenver u want…

thnks

……….

Baat religion ki hai islyn mein bhi koi hawa mein baat nhi kero gi…

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