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Brahmaputra

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Posted: 10 years ago

#691

Karna asked Arjuna to wait, I think.

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tabby999

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Posted: 10 years ago

#692

karan asked arjun to wait till he put back the wheel ..arjun started waiting but krishna provoked him to kill karna at that time only

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Chiillii

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Posted: 10 years ago

#693

In Draupadi swayamvar, Karna would have come with duryodhan s party.

Everybody in that swayamvar did not come to compete. Krishna, balarama and pradyumna diidn't. Duryodhan came with his brothers, all were not going to compete Only duryodhan did.

Drupad knew Karna was suta, he would not want pratiloma marriage for Draupadi, even Draupadi didn't. Duryodhan would have got the invitation and Karna tagged along, just like all the brothers

Even shakuni came with his sons, does that mean shakuni was invited to compete in the swayamvar for Draupadi dhrist only names all the guests who have come, his statement does not indicate that all have come to marry her as per kMG

Yes I am aware he participates in southern recession version but loses. In southern version contest is even more tricky,

The fish is mounted on a wheel in a pole and below it is a disc with a hole big enough for only one arrow to go through, they are rotating counter clockwise and participant gets 5 arrows to shoot through the hole and hit the fish eye.

Apart from Karna and Arjun, Jarasanda also is able to lift the bow, and I don't remember I think one or two more kings. Only Karna is able to get the through the hole but not hit the eye. Arjun gets it thru the hole and hits the eye

Edited by Adishakti - 10 years ago

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Radhika

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Posted: 10 years ago

#694

During VH, Karna instigates Dury to Disrobe Panchali and Dury proceeds to do that. Karna is blamed more in this than Dury and rightfully so.

During the last battle bet KaJu - Krishna instigates Arjun to kill Karna. Here all the blame goes on Arjun and not Krishna - why?

Edited by ashne - 10 years ago

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Radhika

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Posted: 10 years ago

#695

Originally posted by: Adishakti
In Draupadi swayamvar, Karna would have come with duryodhan s party.
Everybody in that swayamvar did not come to compete. Krishna, balarama and pradyumna diidn't. Duryodhan came with his brothers, all were not going to compete Only duryodhan did.

Drupad knew Karna was suta, he would not want pratiloma marriage for Draupadi, even Draupadi didn't. Duryodhan would have got the invitation and Karna tagged along, just like all the brothers
Even shakuni came with his sons, does that mean shakuni was invited to compete in the swayamvar for Draupadi

Karna's name was there in the list of invitees.

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Chiillii

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Posted: 10 years ago

#696

Dear ashen, not list of invitees, but list of guests who have come. Shakuni is also there so is so is somaduttA. They obviously cannot be considered as grooms when their sons and nephews are participating

Karna was a Baraati not the dulha

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AnuMP

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Posted: 10 years ago

#697

Karna is said to instigate Dushy. But instigating an assault on a woman who is not voluntarily there as an enemy combatant is different from instigating the killing of an enemy warrior on the battle field.

Plus doesn't Krishna ask him where his dharma was when Panchali was dragged to the DS? Perhaps Krishna did it deliberately to give him a taste of his own medicine.

I am strongly considering the possibility that VH is an interpolation. But even if it was, at a minimum, Dury and Karna sat and enjoyed the proceedings.

Also, we somehow seem to consider war as something of a cricket match. Krishna had it right, only one rule in war, kill the other guy before he can kill you.

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Brahmaputra

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Posted: 10 years ago

#698

Originally posted by: ashne

During the last battle bet KaJu - Krishna instigates Arjun to kill Karna. Here all the blame goes on Arjun and not Krishna - why?

Why Arjuna? I will never blame him though I am sure what he did was against Dharma. But I will blame Krishna, and only Krishna, for that.

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Radhika

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Posted: 10 years ago

#699

Originally posted by: Adishakti
Dear ashen, not list of invitees, but list of guests who have come. Shakuni is also there so is so is somaduttA. They obviously cannot be considered as grooms when their sons and nephews are participating
Karna was a Baraati not the dulha

Guests r also invited, no? But yes Drupad may not have expected him to participate, probably.

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Radhika

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Posted: 10 years ago

#700

Originally posted by: Brahmaputra
Why Arjuna? I will never blame him though I am sure what he did was against Dharma. But I will blame Krishna, and only Krishna, for that.

People who believe in the divine aspect of the story (which is a major portion ) do just that. Krishna cannot be blamed bcoz he is god!! But then people who listen to God also shouldn't be blamed, no?

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