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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: overactor



i know all don't but some do
and how can sme1 know about some1's happiness..he's not his biolgical mother for God's sake..an original mother is bound with hormones and blood with her child she shares a 9 month session so the child is a part f her hence she knows what is right and what is wrong for a person..Ranvi is just her brother..raising a child doesnot mean u understand everything about that child and men lack that ability for sure ..parents strictness is justified but getting over board and getting ur children married to ppl they don't love can help in 1 out 1000 cases



So in your opinion, adoptive parents can never understand their child's pain? Then how do you explain the fact that Bansuri is always so blind to Gunjan's pain despite being her real mom? How do you explain how Nihal. despite being a stranger has done so much more for Ranvi & Veera than their biological father? You don need to be related by blood to understand someone's pain..Ranvi has given Veera a better life than Amrita, her real mom could have ever imagined ( given the circumstances she gave birth to her)
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: rogerrocks



So in your opinion, adoptive parents can never understand their child's pain? Then how do you explain the fact that Bansuri is always so blind to Gunjan's pain despite being her real mom? How do you explain how Nihal. despite being a stranger has done so much more for Ranvi & Veera than their biological father? You don need to be related by blood to understand someone's pain..Ranvi has given Veera a better life than Amrita, her real mom could have ever imagined ( given the circumstances she gave birth to her)

check my reply above😃
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Metamorphmagus


No. I don't think that will happen. There is a driving force behind Veera which is a mix of all the reasons you stated in the starting of you post. Feeling indebted to Ranvi, she will sacrifice her love. Sacrifice is another aspect that is repeatedly abused by the same industry.



Yes sacrifice and self-destruction 😆 Just that in this case, i wouldn't blame Veera given all that Ranvi has done for her 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
@ RR
You know, I am surprisingly bull-headed and prejudiced regarding this issue.


It's because seldom have I seen hardly any couple being very sincere regarding their love in the real world. I have seen many instances of couples rebelling against their families, but usually it all comes to naught.


It's very true that many mistake a flush of hormones for love. In the first phase of your relationship, you are putting your best face across to your partner, and rarely are there any problems. But after marriage, things which seemed hunky-dory go completely awry. All the things that seemed endearing now put you off.


The instance that @imdevil spoke of- very inspiring, but rare, I would say. Most people usually don't have such sincerity. It's maybe a one in a thousandth, or even a millionth, case.


My neighbour's son rebelled against his family and got married a year ago. Everyone resisted very vehemently, but still he went ahead with it. The girl was nice, but...things didn't go well. There was a slew of misunderstandings, lots of arguments. Now, they are getting a divorce.


Their marriage lasted barely a year. I was so surprised because they seemed so much in love, so accommodative of each other. But it's after marriage that you face certain hard-hitting realities.

Edited by -Amri- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ...-Riya-...

I should have probably added this to my original answer. Since Veera is only 21 (now 22 actually) and there is no hurry in marrying her off..as Veera I will try to convince Ranvi everyday to believ in Baldev and me. If years later it still doesn't work, Baldev and I may have gotten over each other..which is unlikely, so we are again back to the original situation-not marrying a new guy because I can never be a good wife to him.😆 So R would probably agree to our relationship eventually as he can see that Baldev and I are clearly still in love, after all these years.😳😆

I would actually do this in reality too.I can never marry without my parents blessing..neither would I be able to get over my love so soon and get into a sham of a marriage with a new guy. My parents won't emo blackmail me either.😆 So in a few years either my parents would understand or I will get over the guy.



Yeah Ranvi will actually give in eventually..Thats what i think so too..But i was just curious to know whom you'l choose to let go when he is acting all stubborn & not giving you any other option 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: rogerrocks



Yes sacrifice and self-destruction 😆 Just that in this case, i wouldn't blame Veera given all that Ranvi has done for her 😆

Me neither. It will probably be one of the few cases that justifies choosing the person who brought you up. Seeing how she has been able to convince her brother on many issues, I am expecting her to do the same here. Strange how he sees the light every single time when it is her who points him towards reason. Be it Sampooran, Nihal or any other matter.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: GredandForge


I think it is in the perspective and not the age gap.
Yes, mothers are special but you can't say all dads are incapable.
Just like there are exceptional cases to the above, what we are seeing is also exceptional and hence needs to be viewed and treated differently.
He is her brother but he looked after her like a parent. As a relation, they are siblings but in her eyes he is her everything.

she was his everything..here comes the difference you see..she was but not anymore..a child always holds the same importance in a parents life forever..but see ranvi as a anokhi maa has already died🥱..yeah some exceptions are there but a daughter is always hesitant to a father no matter how understanding he is..a mother is ur best friend but in some cases its diff too
he is nt concerned about veera the way he used to be..he is not the same ranvi after his marriage. even fathers turn blind eye t their kids after they re-marry when their 1st wife dies..cinderella stories are real and i have seen real cases
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: GredandForge


I think it is in the perspective and not the age gap.
Yes, mothers are special but you can't say all dads are incapable.
Just like there are exceptional cases to the above, what we are seeing is also exceptional and hence needs to be viewed and treated differently.
He is her brother but he looked after her like a parent. As a relation, they are siblings but in her eyes he is her everything.



And Ranvi has always been shown to be really perceptive about Veera's pain & needs..Despite being a kid himself, he has always tended to Veera to the best of his ability & shielded her from all trouble..Bansuri despite being Gunjan's real mom hasn't done half as much to her own daughter..I can give the Ishita-Shagun example too but its the wrong forum 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
I just do not understand why we need to distinguish between foster parents and biological ones.


At the end of the day, if a child feels cherished, loved and nourished, what else matters? Physiology is not everything.


For that matter, do all biological parents treat their kids well? Aren't their cases of neglect, of poor upbringings among the 'flesh and blood' of biological parents?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: -Amri-

@ RR

You know, I am surprisingly bull-headed and prejudiced regarding this issue.


It's because seldom have I seen hardly any couple being very sincere regarding their love in the real world. I have seen many instances of couples rebelling against their families, but usually it all comes to naught.


It's very true that many mistake a flush of hormones for love. In the first phase of your relationship, you are putting your best face across to your partner, and rarely are there any problems. But after marriage, things which seemed hunky-dory go completely awry. All the things that seemed endearing now put you off.


The instance that @imdevil spoke of- very inspiring, but rare, I would say. Most people usually don't have such sincerity. It's maybe a one in a thousandth, or even a millionth, case.


My neighbour's son rebelled against his family and got married a year ago. Everyone resisted very vehemently, but still he went ahead with it. The girl was nice, but...things didn't go well. There was a slew of misunderstandings, lots of arguments. Now, they are getting a divorce.


Their marriage lasted barely a year. I was so surprised because they seemed so much in love, so accommodative of each other. But it's after marriage that you face certain hard-hitting realities.



Word..I think this is the biggest drawback of a love marriage..You just don see the other side of the coin 😆 I know a girl who eloped with a a guy ( an auto driver to be precise) on the day of her marriage despite being from a well off family..And now she is pregnant & back home and its her parents who are still taking care of her despite all the humiliation & embarrassment..Parents ( in most cases) always forgive the child for their mistakes..Probably why most of them take it for granted & decide to elope 😆

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