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rogerrocks

@rogerrocks

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Posted: 11 years ago

#61

Urgh am late 😆 You know i agree with everything you just said right? 😆 We have discussed this so much that anything i add to this post is gonna sound redundant 😆 I still feel they could have used that phase where Baldev was heart-broken to create wonders..That typical 'i hate you like i love you' kind with a twist..I love watching scenes where the hero is trying so hard to hate the girl but there are those moments where he cant help but care for her..Remember the 'sapnon ki duniya' scene where Arnav is downright brutal to Kushi but melts the moment he sees her in tears? Or all those scenes where Asad was downright annoyed with Zoya yet couldn't help but smile at her antics? 😆 I know this is not a Gul Khan show but they really could have tried to show that angst & conflict between the mind & heart..They had the perfect platform after Baldev was heartbroken..But alas, these writers were more interested in showing 'Ratan Swarozghar Yojana' & Veera evolving crappy schemes to empower women 😆 It just takes one well written scene, one monologue or one instance where he introspects his feelings..Now i guess its too late to ask for all that 😆 The only demands i have from this show at this point are

1) Vishal should stop trimming his goddamn hair and go back to the way he looked in the Sarpanch track 😆
2) Eff those shirts & please start wearing kurtas 😆
3) Stop playing that utterly ridiculous bgm in random romantic scenes 😆
4) Focus on Vishal's eyes 😆
5)Show a palatable love story without cliched or cheesy romance 😆
6) No replacements..I just cant take replacements 😆

Bas..Its reached a stage where this is all i expect from this show 😆

Edited by rogerrocks - 11 years ago

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IntrovertedDame

@IntrovertedDame

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Posted: 11 years ago

#62

@GredandForge

Before coming to your very pertinent questions about Baldev and his character growth, I'd like to ask some questions in my turn.

First of all...Who is Veera?😃

What is her ambition in life? At least for Baldev, we knew that he wanted to become the Sarpanch. Ranvi became a singer (in three episodes!), but still, his passion for singing was fructified.

But Veera? What are her interests, apart from her encouraging her Veerji, singing the praises of Ratan and Ranvi, or pursuing herPapaji ka sapna?

Apparently she is a graduate and wanted to pursue her higher education abroad. Doesn't the self-denial of the opportunity bother her, not even for a second? 😲

Granted, she came to know about her family's poor financial health and what they did for her and willingly turned down her personal ambitions to do something in return. But doesn't that make her even a little bitter? 😕More importantly, doesn't she ever feel like an outsider in her family, whom she knows are not her blood relatives?😕

Doesn't she feel offended by Ratan's continued preference for her son who happens to be of her own blood? How her (perhaps)natural affection for her flesh and blood eclipses her professed 'love' for Veera, her proclaimed daughter, every time?

Yeah. So we have absolutely NO answers to these questions.🤢At least Baldev ko chodo, he is the female lead's romantic interest (which is what he has been relegated to being, he has no personal characteristics left whatsoever).

But what about the protagonist herself? For God's sake, the show is named Veera, it's eponymous and is supposed to show the emotional journeys and travails of the protagonist.

Veera herself has no character growth😡. At least Baldev was shown as softening and growing because of Veera's influence. But there has been no progress as far as Veera, the individual is concerned.

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And now...coming to your very interesting questions about Baldev...Bang on post! ⭐️These are questions which have plagued me since this love-shove business took over.

I don't know about others, but if someone shot my childhood dream down mercilessly, if someone hampered an ambition that I cherished with all my heart from fructifying, I would never forgive them. NEVER.😳

But Baldev ne Veera ke eik lecture suni aur uska mann badal gaya. I am yet to figure out how exactly he forgot his Sarpanch dream. But yes, I buy very much the idea that he's always had a soft spot for Veera and couldn't bear to hurt her willingly (as evidenced by the sprain incident). I am convinced that he does care for her deeply, and that his heart loves her with all its might.😳

But the emotional conflicts that he might have experienced, the conflict between his head and his heart, were completely neglected. The heart wants what the heart wants, right? But how did Baldev start listening to his heart? Isn't he the one who said, Mardon ko pyaar nahin honnda?😲

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So therein we have the root of all the problems.😃 Cutting a long story short...The moral is that the show's makers have completely invested their writing in depicting the love stories, but are utterly unconcerned about developing characters as individuals, showing them grow, depicting their idiosyncrasies, the changes in their psyches, etc,.🤢

It all began with Gunjan, who initially fascinated me so much because of the neglect she faced which made her the person she is. I still haven't figured out how the character took a 360 degree turn, or how Ranvi's love for her gave her some validation and a whole new start in terms of emotional fulfillment.

It began with Gunjan, and it continues with Veera and Baldev...As for Ranvi, he is the least developed among all, so not going to go there at all!!!🥱

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PHEW!!! That marks the end of my rant.😊 Hope you had the patience to come to this:) If yes, I commend you heartily for your endurance. Thanks!And awesome post once again!⭐️

Edited by -Amri- - 11 years ago

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loveangel94

@loveangel94

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Posted: 11 years ago

#63

Originally posted by: Prii..
You have put everything perfectly. I have never really felt that Baldev is in love with Veera. This is one of the reasons I have not been able to connect to most of the scenes. Ofcourse slapstick comedy also takes the essence out of every scene. You genuinely laugh when you see something hilarious. I can't laugh watching lame comedy🥱 I felt Veeba's confessions were pretty boring and even the acting wasn't upto the mark, IMO.
The writers have made Baldev so inconsistent that tomorrow if he leaves Veera for another girl, I would be convinced. 😆
For me the essence of Baldev's character was different. He wasn't a guy who would start dancing like a 2 year old at the drop of a hat🥱 Mind you those scenes looked OTT and somehow Vishal's acting in those scenes looked OTT to me.😛 He did a pretty good job when the character needed to be intense during the confessions.
It looks like a love story of two kids 😳 Many people are enjoying Baldev being portrayed as a comical "Ranvi" and Veeba's comical 'love' story. So I guess the writers have succeeded in pleasing the majority.
Oh b/w it seems to me that Veera is also just crushing on Baldev😆 And yeah, I still rewatch some old Veeba scenes. Baldev was different and I thought I signed up for that when I followed the show regularly post leap including his costumes😆 I so want him to wear those Kurtas and coats/jackets. He has become so boring

howcome u r finding him bore when u used to enjoy his ott comedy during his marriage obsession track.u also nt disliked him during that track bt nw calling him creep.i remember most of ur essays IN JAGRATA EXPRESS those time praising him for his 2 min scenes.i also remember ur post stating that u cant watch show becoz baldev is tuned in to cheap villain.u stopped commenting frm that day becoz according to u it wld had been illogical for veera to fall for negative baldev.

bt after few episodes baldev started supporting veera stopped plotting.poland track bring them more closer.

i dont know it is logical or not nw bt i find nw baldev more adorable.

nw less dose of ott comedy,no filler baldev scenes,no extra melodrama.

majority of ppl starts commenting,joining IF,liking episode nwdays.

also imo not every hero needs to be fake AYM shouting & manhandling heroine for silly reasons,i cant connect to such heroes.

i also rewatch old veeba scenes bt nw i find scenes more better becoz of better expressions from both sides.

i agree veeba is love story with comical touch.i dont know whats mean by intensity.if ek dusre par girna parna here n there in rain or anywhere with intense music, with full of physical contacts then ok i alredy watch such repetitive scenes in many soaps.also which love story has shown love in full details especially ArSHI luv story.i never cld connect to arnav love.it was more like physical attraction & treating khusi as his property.

bt i dont know why all love story needs to be melodrama.already cv has shown ranjan melodramatic story.i love romantic comedy.so i luv veeba nw.

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...-Riya-...

@...-Riya-...

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Posted: 11 years ago

#64

Originally posted by: rogerrocks
It just takes one well written scene, one monologue or one instance where he introspects his feelings..Now i guess its too late to ask for all that 😆

Yes, one tiny scene would suffice at this point to connect all the dots. But O Rabba makeover sessions like the one we saw on Saturday are much more important.😆😭

About the kurtas and the hair, have some patience. I honestly believe they will return, maybe in a month or 2.😆 About the song, any hopes are useless.😆 I doubt VeeBa would ever be cheesy, atleast not only until their marriage, phir Ram jaane.😆 I second the replacement thing.

@Amri: Great post.😃

Edited by Riyan16 - 11 years ago

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rogerrocks

@rogerrocks

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Posted: 11 years ago

#65

Originally posted by: Riyan16

Yes, one tiny scene would suffice at this point to connect all the dots. But O Rabba makeover sessions like the one we saw on Saturday are much more important.😆😭

About the kurtas and the hair, have some patience. I honestly believe they will return, maybe in a month or 2.😆 About the song, any hopes are useless.😆 I doubt VeeBa would ever be cheesy, atleast not only until their marriage, phir Ram jaane.😆 I second the replacement thing.

Month or two? 😲 I cant wait for so long dude 😲😆 About the hair, its all in Vishal's hands..I'l probably throw a fit the next time he trims his hair 😭😆 And yes, i cant take replacements in a love story..If the actors are changed, i swear it'l look like Veera or Baldev are cheating on the other 😆 I stopped watching QH after they replaced the male lead..I hope to god i haven't jinxed this show 😆

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IntrovertedDame

@IntrovertedDame

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Posted: 11 years ago

#66

Originally posted by: Riyan16

@Amri: Great post.😃

Thanks😳 I still wonder how you had the patience to go through the entire thing!😆

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Khyati

@cherryberry293

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Posted: 11 years ago

#67

Heya GnF ... Glad to see you here

Wassup ??? Hwz u ??

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MaaneetDeewangi

@MaaneetDeewangi

Sparkler

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Posted: 11 years ago

#68

CVs were too busy with something else that's why they didn't give us a realization scene of Baldev bade aaye Beyond Dreams dikhane bhaad mein jayen!! 🤬

Edited by MaaneetDeewangi - 11 years ago

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...-Riya-...

@...-Riya-...

Sparkler

Posted: 11 years ago

#69

Originally posted by: rogerrocks

Month or two? 😲 I cant wait for so long dude 😲😆 About the hair, its all in Vishal's hands..I'l probably throw a fit the next time he trims his hair 😭😆 And yes, i cant take replacements in a love story..If the actors are changed, i swear it'l look like Veera or Baldev are cheating on the other 😆 I stopped watching QH after they replaced the male lead..I hope to god i haven't jinxed this show 😆

According to the segments, he is still wearing shirts in the Krishi Vidyale track, so no kurtas for atleast 2-3 weeks I guess. I think Vishal keeps trimming his hair just becasue he has to wear shirts now, once he is back in kurtas, I am sure he will grant your wish.😆

It's always a risk getting hooked to a couple in a serial, sooner or later, the story/characters gets dragged or ruined or worse replaced, so you can no longer enjoy them even on a shallow level.😆

I never got into QH completely because of KSG. I did see the mass murder scene of tanvi or whatever. So thank God I was never a fan.😆 In 2012, I was hooked to the Shiv-Anandi jodi from Balika Vadhu for 2-3 months. I stopped following it before Pratyusha got replaced, but I still miss seeing them together when I occasionally watch BV now. I think that's my only sad experience with replacements. If either Vishal or Diggy leave this show, I will die.😆