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Posted: 9 years ago


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Posted: 9 years ago
going by the spoilers, does seem like Swarna is going to be rescued soon...
Are they waiting for Diwali?

seems outlandish that no one would bother seeing her face for so long even if she is supposedly unwell and go on from one festival to another
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: SoreThumb


@Bertie: logically speaking, he shouldn't be faking it. Most people are speculating he might be faking it because the pace at which the romance is going is too fast to digest. Add to that, past experiences with other shows and there you have the reason.

The dargah sequence made it obvious that he doesn't believe in his allegations anymore..he indirectly said it during the star gazing sequence too when he told her that she did change her fate. But the speed of change doesn't sit well with most because they spend too much time establishing his guilt over marrying again and betraying his dead wife and not enough time (or rather no time) to show how he is ready to and comfortable with moving on in all ways possible.

The constant flash backs and scenes of speaking to Sula's portrait did their job of establishing his love for Sula too well. So much so that most would expect him to feel at least some reservation over physical intimacy with gayatri, more so since the acceptance has been indirect..the extent of acceptance left unclear






See..my point is where they have now brought him, they cannot turn him back anymore...that they should not have brought him here in the first place is altogether another story...agree that they underlined his Sula obsession so much..and this cursory treatment of his moving on seems unconvincing...

Anyway, it definitely is not an act...because there is a bigger twist coming up...apparently Sulakshana is coming back...I so knew this was happening...didn't quite expect it this soon...maybe they are trying to jump start TRPs...and such crappy nonsense finds favor with the TRP audience...
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: TheMockingBird

OMG! Sulakshana (Jayna Tida) is back! In the history of TV anything may happen and now yes this is a biggest shock for the fans of the show.

Ranaji (Siddharth Karnick) who just fallen love with Gayatri (Drashti Dhami Khemka) will celebrate Karwachauth with her and also feels he will express his love for his lady love but twist comes here is Ranaji's first wife Rani Sulakshana who is dead, that what everyone feels will be back.

As per the sources Ranaji will make break the fast of Gayatri and trying to express his love but suddenly he sees Sulakshana standing before him. Well this is amazing twist in the show. Ranaji started to forget his wife just now and she is back!

Now what will Ranaji do? Does he will go with new found love or to the love which he cherishing these all years?

We tried to get connect with Jayna Tida but she did not revert.

Stay tuned for more exciting updates.



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amazing twist my foot
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Posted: 9 years ago
Regarding Sula's comeback, I was hesitating to voice it aloud. I felt this romance blooming will lead to it. 😡
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: BertieWooster


See..my point is where they have now brought him, they cannot turn him back anymore...that they should not have brought him here in the first place is altogether another story...agree that they underlined his Sula obsession so much..and this cursory treatment of his moving on seems unconvincing...

Anyway, it definitely is not an act...because there is a bigger twist coming up...apparently Sulakshana is coming back...I so knew this was happening...didn't quite expect it this soon...maybe they are trying to jump start TRPs...and such crappy nonsense finds favor with the TRP audience...



@bold: is what leads to the speculation that he could be faking..thoough logically it doesnt make sense


@sula: 🤢

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Posted: 9 years ago
The actress playing Sulakshana is very meh...not good enough to play an antagonist...and she is obviously not the protagonist either...so she is going to display negative shades sooner or later...don't know how long and how much they can stretch such a track...!
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: sv2611

Regarding Sula's comeback, I was hesitating to voice it aloud. I felt this romance blooming will lead to it. 😡


SV..

I would so have preferred MU assuming Gayatri's invovlement over Sula coming back 🥱
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: BertieWooster

The actress playing Sulakshana is very meh...not good enough to play an antagonist...and she is obviously not the protagonist either...so she is going to display negative shades sooner or later...don't know how long and how much they can stretch such a track...!


and I have no interest in seeing her reminiscing their love story 🥱


edit: and definitely no interest in bigamy
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: BertieWooster

Hello,

1. I really liked seeing a hapless RNJ being buffeted by a strong wave of desire...when it is the norm for MLs to smirk while they make the females all hot and bothered, here was an ML who was visibly impacted and did not hesitate to show it...from the tentative entry into the room, the arrow of of desire that shoots through him at the sight of all that naked expanse of skin, not sure if and how to act on it, seeing his wife being visibly impacted by his proximity, and then tentatively responding to her overture when he tied the strings...even while he tried to control his expressions and his emotions..not daring to face up to her or even himself after a point, closing his eyes to the desire, the reluctant stepping back, and then the visible exhalation and clenching of fists...Thank you Sid for taking us through the process...it was delightful to watch RNJ in torment 😆

2. The dining room scene- okay, so here's the one where the vote appears divided...well, mine is an aye as I already mentioned yesterday...to the performance at least...my gripe was that there was no carryover of the emotion from the previous scene and also, it was a misplaced moment, sandwiched between Swarna related references...

However, thinking deeper, the look at the back while he pulled the chair out for her and the way his fingers pressed into the back of the chair, as a sign of his being affected and also to leave an imprint where her back would rest, maybe the overlap of emotion was there..just that it was kept very subtle instead of making it obvious through direct interplay...!

Thinking deeper, there may be three reasons why RNJ did not play it as subtle as usual.

a) Don't you keep talking a lot after an embarrassing moment? Excessively jumpy and skittish? To distract your own self and the other person? Maybe that was how he was playing it. RNJ was going the extra mile to distract himself and G from what had gone on between the two of them hardly minutes earlier...

b) Maybe because it was meant to be a pronounced statement to the audience gathered there...be it the Kunwars or even the servants...these were the people in front of whom he had humiliated G...maybe he was trying to set the record straight in no uncertain terms...telling them she was his Queen, his wife, deserving of every courtesy and respect and that his eyes would be on her all the time! No body could get away with slighting her or harming her!

It was also his way of initiating G into his world, to tell her that he would be by her side and hold her hand at every stage and that they would be fine together! To apologize to her through his courtesy and protection. There is no way that all of this can be done in any other but a pronounced way so the message goes across loud and clear!

c) Maybe it was Sid's way of responding to the criticism on his emoting skills...he wanted to make it that much more pronounced so that he would be able to get the message across even to an audience that liked emotions underlined and spelt out..! Also maybe because he wanted to pitch it a notch higher since RNJ is on the path to being besotted..!

Whatever it was a very cute scene...apparently its been done to death in Korean soaps..having never seen one, it was very fresh to me...

I liked the idea very much...!


Originally posted by: BertieWooster

Now for that important question that seems to be plaguing the forum - is he faking?

For all those who think he is, my simple question would be since when? From the dargah, from the moment they returned to the palace, when?

If it is from the dargah, why would he? When he personally nursed her back to life? He wanted to bring her back to life so he could take revenge?

If it is from the time they returned to the palace, for what joy? I mean, what exactly happened that he would take revenge? Just because his mother and wife exchanged smiles? Even the black veiled woman got to know things only subsequently about RM's involvement in G being shot! So for what exactly was he taking revenge? If RNJ already knew of G or RM's involvement, what was the point of the black veiled lady even overhearing the conversation?


Also, this whole thing about lightning speed romance? I don't get it! The man's wife has been dead for six years and he has been grieving and laboring under misplaced guilt ever since! The fact that he actually recklessly went to fight the war personally suggests that he was practically trying to get killed! His emotions vis a vis G have been conflicted right from the beginning. He doesn't even know quite what he feels. Whatever it is, it is very, very strong! No lukewarm or half emotions there. He resented her and hated her when he thought she'd manipulated her way into his life! Yet he could not stop himself from admiring her innate courage and goodness and stood up for her just for that! Why couldn't he have treated her with contempt and disdain? Why did he rant and rave every time he thought she'd disappointed him and betrayed him? Why did her betrayal matter so much to him? It was almost like his anger against her was his defense mechanism, because he somewhere felt very conflicted about moving on! He preferred to believe in circumstantial evidence that allowed him to retain this defensive posture because he was scared of letting of letting himself go! Also, when a person has had his heart broken once, he would be naturally wary of giving himself again and would prefer to delay the inevitable using every excuse!

Now,after the extreme situations that they have been through, his defense is well and truly broken! He has been on the verge of losing this woman, who has suddenly become very central to his existence even without his realizing it! We already got to see how Sula had slipped through his conscious when he responded to the feeding scene between Bansi and Mala by feeding G himself! If S and her memories were even in his conscious, would he have done that? It took G to remind him of Sula, In the tumultuous days that have just passed, he has forgotten his misplaced guilt, anger and resentment. All of that have been pushed out of his mind and heart by something much larger, much stronger and even better, something that is still growing!

He knows G loves him to bits. He has felt the power of his attraction towards her. What is he supposed to do next? Go back to platonic conversations and innocent romance?

For a man as passionate conversation, isn't it obvious that physical intimacy would be the next step? But he does not want to rush G but would rather woo her into physical pleasures step by step! He has her heart and he has her mind already! All that is left is to seal the pact through a physical union. He may not spell things out but it is obvious both to G and him that he feels deeply for her and wants her just as much! I am deliberately not using the word love here because he has chosen not to give it that label yet! Maybe he will soon enough if that hug that is coming up is any indication! He is anyway committed to the relationship for a lifetime!



I don't think they are rushing into intimacy given the context of their powerful emotions, the tumultuous experiences they have been through and so on. I don't feel the need for RNJ's monologue. That song sequence at the dargah told me all that I wanted to know. His every gesture and every expression has been speaking to me since! I don't need him to tell me that he does not believe in the allegations that he had levelled against G anymore because I already know that he is motivated by far more than such reservations!

When there is warm and willing woman in front of him who is also his wife and when he is certainly not immune to her charms and even likes her enough as a person, why would he hold back?


So, bottom line is I don't think he is faking. There is one more important reason why I don't think he is! They are setting him up for a big fall, a big MU and for that to happen, he must be, he has to feel strongly for G. If he was faking even now, how is the situation any different from the Wilkison episode? He needs for his heart to be engaged now for it to break now!

The fact that the black veiled lady is now aware of RM's secret indicates that they are going to play with the gun episode for the MU.

Here is my conjecture - what if the black veiled lady managed to plant the gun in G's room? Just like she did with the wedding lehenga? What if she conspired to make it seem like the gun was in G's possession? RNJ is enough of a warrior to recognize weapons and to know what kind of bullet would cause what kind of injury.

What if like the payal, the gun is made an evidence? The fact that RM asked the gun to be hidden away is proof that this is surely going to happen! What if a situation is created where G is perceived to be guilty or at least that she colluded with RM? Or what, if like other mahanta ki murti FLs, she decides to take the blame to save her mother-in-law! Since RM hatched the conspiracy for her sake anyway!

When a conflicted RNJ responded so strongly to perceived betrayal, a besotted RNJ is going to be worse! He is going to be wounded tiger and snap and snarl! And, right or wrong, he is going to believe the worst!

Why do I get the feeling that the Swarna situation may bring them back together?

Much of my analysis is based on logic and common sense. However, they become the first casualty in desi soaps! So I could be all wrong and RNJ could be faking after all! Thought I should add this line as a caveat!



@bold Oh Bertie what will we do without you my friend. You say it best 😃 👏


Edited by Gul.S_Ef - 9 years ago

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