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Posted: 9 years ago

#61

Originally posted by: BertieWooster
Shwets...the edits are just superlative today...not that they aren't every day...but magic in the air today 😉😆
I loved that one with the little girl...can we get some close-ups please...I loved the expression on his face apart from ermmm 😳😆

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BertieWooster

@BertieWooster

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Posted: 9 years ago

#62

Originally posted by: -Sush-

Wah B, I am impressed!! 😃 You and chick have switched roles today?? 😆

In red...yes I think so too...it wouldn't make sense to have this dialogue about Gayatri...not yet...

I think Chick's never ending patience has rubbed off on me...just when she seems to have exhausted her quota finally 😆

But you know, there are two issues here.

This is a daily soap that I have chosen to watch because there is a hook here that has reeled me in. It is not the actors but the setting frankly. I am not a fan of any actor, I appreciate performances and that is about it! But I am a sucker for period settings and this one actually looked fairly authentic unlike the fake stuff that gets passed off in some shows. I must say that it was RM, who first impressed me and then RNJ and G grew on me!

So anyway, I knew this was not a Satyajit Ray classic and so am not expecting that level of realism here. I know it is going to be filmy and low on logic at times but am fine with that so long as they keep me broadly entertained. You know that thing about 'willing suspension of disbelief', right?

I am willing to suspend disbelief if you entertain me! Like I go' It's a bird, it's a plane, its superman' when I see the red caped man in flight or when I whistle with great vigor when Thalaiva bashes up a hundred goons singlehandedly! I know none of that is real, it is even silly and stupid maybe but I still root for the superhero because he entertains me!

Similarly, if the show entertains me sufficiently, I am willing to overlook lapses in logic! I know I am not watching an authentic documentation of how the royals lived and loved in the 1940s. What I expect is near perfect staging and smooth transitions so even the lapses in logic go unnoticed. That is where they are going wrong! They are not smoothing out the rough edges and that they need to work on!

Yesterday, there were enough high points for me to willingly suspend disbelief! Gayathri made my heart melt when she melted for RNJ and RNJ made me feel his tadap, his anguish and his fear! So am good! I am willing to write a back story in my mind about RM's machinations and maybe I will be proved right! If I am, then more power to the writers, I will say!

The dargah scene has been seen a hundred times before. Yet, I buy heavily into Sufi symbolism. Besides the scene was beautifully staged and shot for the most part! Even the lead up to the dargah set up looked reasonably real unlike in other shows! Their hard work is there to be seen and I am all for appreciating hard work!

Most importantly, I am here for a love story. And it would not do for me to be disenchanted with either lead if I have to buy into their love story. And I must also accept that neither character is me nor do they have to subscribe to my personal code of ethics or sense of right and wrong! It is not my love story that is playing out but that of RNJ and G, neither of which is me! More importantly, I need to look at it through the prism of the period in which it is set rather than that of today!

So am good with G alternating between sensible to stupid, with RNJ behaving in churlish and unadmirable ways so long as they are broadly in character! It is only when the inconsistencies come to the fore that I become disenchanted and am forced to question!

If I think G is weak and susceptible and RNJ domineering and arrogant, I still want to know what made them melt for each other! If I am convinced with their melting, I will connect with their story. So far, they have me convinced.

For me, only two places have made me feel major disconnect so far. G's behaviour at the bichiya ritual and RNJ's abandoning her in the forest. While behavior can be erratic sometimes, this level of deviation from character made me feel discomfort somewhere. It is like there is an invisible line and when the character crosses that line, you begin to question. G loves him too much to humiliate him in public and RNJ is too much of a gentleman to leave her to her devices in the middle of a jungle. Or so I thought!

But maybe, just maybe, these were deviations brought on by major trauma! And so I have made peace with them and continued to love them.

I cannot love a love story while I hate either of the leads. The day I feel hate for either, I will tune out!

P.S - Sush, that headgear suits him so well, I think someone should cast SK as an Arab...he even has the hooked nose 😆

Edited by BertieWooster - 9 years ago

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BertieWooster

@BertieWooster

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Posted: 9 years ago

#63

Originally posted by: -Shwets-

Shwets...love you, girl...that emotion in the close up...he killed it, man!

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Danseuse

@Danseuse

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Posted: 9 years ago

#64

Albert Einstein said to Charlie Chaplin," What I most admire about your acting...you don't ever say a word and the world understands you!"

"It probably is true," answered Chaplin, "but Sir, your glory is even greater. The whole world admires you, even though they don't understand a word of what you say!!!" 😃👏🤣

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It wouldn't be right to draw comparisons, but when a person chooses to be in the acting profession for a long time and is known for his/her prowess in the field, the expectations are high. Am sure, any actor would hav set his/her own standards to prove oneself. Its important to stick to them. Sometimes, an actors nuances also plays a great role in making scenes come alive!

I am yet to reach that stage where I can fully applaud both the leads in this show - thou we are already 60 episodes old. One of the main reasons could be that the characters are slowly unfolding themselves as the story progresses...its best to hav patience thou I don't really care if the leads look like God /Goddess or Terrorists...I mean looks are my least priority...😃

- Rekha

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BertieWooster

@BertieWooster

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Posted: 9 years ago

#65

Originally posted by: simran_singh_24
Sush, your title made me wonder whether i had slept thr a day & missed an entire episode😉

Shwets- lovely pics. RGD looks so serene in the one in greenish bg.

Yep, liked the cute girl & Ranaji taking directions from her.He covered his head,covered his wife's too.He was so compliant and utterly helpless too.
What I liked abt the Dargah scene was the King walking in looking, idhar-udhar, clueless as to what to do in an unfamiliar place of worship.I think, it's the actor's contribution & 👏 for SK.

If anyone was looking for RGD's impact on RNJ, it was there y'day. I saw it in many places.

RGD was Gayathri and she was under time pressure & was rightfully pissed off with RNJ for trying to clear off the debt.I mean he called the Minsiter even before morning coffee & decides to sell off assets, as if the soup-feeding& reading and guarding the door never happened. Go Gayathri go.

I'm filing her brief cleaning spree & the outburst under unstable mind due to snake poison .The king had presence of mind,he held on to the rope & his queen & yelled for help,no drama of the whole thing crashing on them, i liked that.
Yashodha was good,she was both RM & Swarna y'day. The actor is so good with her eyes, she has a calm & confident demeanour about her, i like that.

@bold

I think so too, Sim...he's come up with a lot of improvisations...those various nods are not something a director can teach him for one...theater brings that to an actor...

Am all for appreciating actors who make an effort...instead of relying on their pretty faces to sway the audiences...!

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simran_singh_24

@simran_singh_24

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Posted: 9 years ago

#66

Originally posted by: BertieWooster

@bold

I think so too, Sim...he's come up with a lot of improvisations...those various nods are not something a director can teach him for one...theater brings that to an actor...

Am all for appreciating actors who make an effort...instead of relying on their pretty faces to sway the audiences...!

Yashodha does the nods too,to some extent.
Sure, Sid has mastered it and brought in lot of improvisations.
i can see that in many places.
Did u notice the way he took off the shoes at the entrance?he pushed them back after leaving.Unless they have total control freak for a Dir, i think, it's the actor's touch.

Edited by simran_singh_24 - 9 years ago

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neesha119

@neesha119

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Posted: 9 years ago

#67

Originally posted by: BertieWooster

@bold

I think so too, Sim...he's come up with a lot of improvisations...those various nods are not something a director can teach him for one...theater brings that to an actor...

Am all for appreciating actors who make an effort...instead of relying on their pretty faces to sway the audiences...!

Wow.. ditto..my thoughts.. Yesterday ..I admired and adored Sids acting .The little nuances and his expressios were too good. He expressed his helplessness, fear nd also care towards Gayatri.. in those fleeting moments.. He is a brilliant actor. I dont know why some people find him very stiff. I dont think so.. He is very apt for the role and does his act suberbly. He compliments DD very well.I would say.. nd yes aboout Yashoda .. you are right ..BertieWooster.. She has that calmness in her eyes..

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MrsAkyurek

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Posted: 9 years ago

#68

Sorry to be the party-pooper of sorts but the scene which almost everybody liked, that of the little interaction between the kid and Ranaji at the Dargah was literally played in...ehm..QH just a few days back, where the hero who also happens to be a vampire (Yaay Gul!) unaware of the protocol to be followed is ably guided by a little child.

The pre-cap alone piqued my interest, quite eager to know what caused the catharsis in Ranaji to be able to break his facade in front of Gayatri! I think Sid is a good crier😆

There are a few things which I don't get about Gayatri at all. To me, these little acts of kindness by Ranaji are stemmed from his guilty conscience for having left her in the jungle. There is a clear distinction between caring for someone because it's your duty as a King versus caring for someone out of love. Even if Gayatri is proven guilt free, Ranaji isn't obligated to love her back so I really wish she would show some dignity and give Ranaji some breathing space!

Edited by .Veritaserum - 9 years ago

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DirtyMartini

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Posted: 9 years ago

#69

Originally posted by: .Veritaserum
Sorry to be the party-pooper of sorts but the scene which almost everybody liked, that of the little interaction between the kid and Ranaji at the Dargah was literally played in...ehm..QH just a few days back, where the hero who also happens to be a vampire (Yaay Gul!) unaware of the protocol to be followed is ably guided by a little child.

The pre-cap alone piqued my interest, quite eager to know what caused the catharsis in Ranaji to be able to break his facade in front of Gayatri! I think Sid is a good crier😆

There are a few things which I don't get about Gayatri at all. To me, these little acts of kindness by Ranaji are stemmed from his guilty conscience for having left her in the jungle. There is a clear distinction between caring for someone because it's your duty as a King versus caring for someone out of love. Even if Gayatri is proven guilt free, Ranaji isn't obligated to love her back so I really wish she would show some dignity and give Ranaji some breathing space!

Completely agree about the breathing space.

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chicksoup

@chicksoup

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Posted: 9 years ago

#70

Originally posted by: -Shwets-

Sou ,

I am surprised you did't like the epi ...how was this different from the dance / rescue epi ...all week the episodes were bakwas ...yesterday was the only saving grace+ two good looking leads ...I am positive next weeks TRP's will be up If this continues not sure I will stick around .

DD / Siddanth were not in the same frame the entire Coffee scene ...I know DD has bad eye infection ...the editing was poor.

Shwets,

It was probably too many reminders from a previous show I watched..Plus..I didn't mind the plot at all...Just the way they executed it was a major problem for me.

G gets up in the morning till the scene Yashoda comes and she goes to make coffee was normal and quite good- it was shot in the same spirit as the previous epi.👏

RNJ in turtle neck- me not likes...and if G is going to act like that there has to be a good reason...Like either a good monologue...or her showing some signs of illness here and there as she finds the sevaks cleaning the chandelier...just a matter of continuity.

Doctor- Yashoda scene...very poorly written.. and way too abrupt, coming after that chandelier scene..he could have looked at the snake bite and said the poison has spread..(however logic less that may be too.) I did not like Yashoda here..unless it was a pre- planned move as many say. I doubt that...if it is true, I don't find that very interesting either.

So if that was to be a sincere scene, Yashoda should have been at the point of breaking down too...the urgency of the situation was lacking in her expressions.

Dargah- on the whole, quite good...TBH, I don't think they had much time with that sequence...my personal opinion is that Sid could have done better, had the director had more time with him...but I totally excuse that since I know how much hard work goes into making a scene like that...so given the time constraints, they did it pretty well..plus all the fangirling moments Bertie pointed out were very much there...I did enjoy them all in parts.😳

On the whole, I agree with Bertie...it is not that my expectations were more..just that I am angry about that chandelier and doctor scene which totally put me off...That wouldn't have taken much time..it is the lack of finesse in such ordinary scenes that I lament.😳

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