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Gems.musingsRN

@Gems.musingsRN

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Posted: 10 years ago

#41

Originally posted by: atominis
I have no grudge against newbies.
But this forum has had many newbies coming onky to call others negative and bash them and some even made abusive and racist posts so there is no dearth of people registering especially to comment a certain way.

React this way?[1]

What have I done? What offended you now?[2]

How do you know how Bhuvnesh Maan takes posts in this forum? Did he tell you how he reacts?[3]

This forum is general forum. Not addressed to any star. Neither it is an official fan club.

I only said all sorts of posts are here and for all actors.

I wish Bhuvnesh well for upcoming tracks. That's all.

Praise is earned. Not asked for. I hope other can strive to earn.

(P.S - many agreed to me and Debs too. So each side has their valid perception.)

@atominis,

@bold1 anu,i'm quite a regular follower[and not a stalker,atleast in my POV] of ur posts and ur interactions with other member friends.so i guessed while making this post that we'd never have the same POV in this topic.

@bold2 u did absolutely nothing,and never offended me.[ironically,i guess i'm the one who offended u].i guess i already said I'M NOT INTERESTED IN OPENING ANY FANCLUB.
i'm just a general viewer.bas,apni opinion share karni thi aap sabke saat,aur koi iraada nahin tha mera.

@bold3 ofc not😆..every coin has 2 sides.see u can't say he'll take it in a sporty way or not.possibilities are there that he may be let down by continuous criticisms also.as i said,u never know how people react.was just trying to bring some light on that aspect too.

and pls dont think that all newbies are made out of same mould.i never registered in IF for writing comments/bashing anyone in EHT forum,never.that was for an entirely diff. reason.BTW,i think the'date of joining'/being a 'newbie' does not point to one's experience with IF.u can be a silent reader too.

['' aire gaire newbies'',really?not all are then @TheGadabout]

@dey.bh i never forced anyone to think in the other way.i was surprised to see that my view even had takers in EHT forum.i repeat,i just shared my POV,that's it.following it or not is the reader's choice.

and ''

YOu have no idea what wrong examples we are setting with such kind of characters, especially for those who live outside India.''.pls clarify this sentence.are u talking abt dev goenka's char.?

while posting this,i was expecting a truck load of brickbats,but got an auto full of brickbats instead,hai na,😆

i guess being a silent reader was best.see,one post i made,it turned into a warzone.i have no intention of putting up a fight with anu,debs or anyone in the forum.we can all be friends,hai na?

ratna.

ps:the new banner is great.👏

Edited by ratna.nanda - 10 years ago

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Rishi_

@Rishi_

Inactive

Posted: 10 years ago

#42

TM while you have every right to express your views, then so do others.

But openly pointing to one particular member because she calls Dev as dheela is inappropriate in my POV.

Toothpaste needs to be called toothpaste only not mouth freshener.

If someone is flawed, he will be called dheela.

Staying away when your best friend needed you. Remember a friend in need is a friend indeed.

Its of no use if he returns back after 2 years and gives stupid reasons of visa issues or mail a/c hack.

only flirting with nitya in flashback is not going to help.

2. Second i find the actor's acting to be very very artificial.

examples:

1. Pathetic improvisation of Raj's voice while talking to agnihotri. Felt like daya ben screaming from a gallery😆

2. Stone faced expressions on knowing payal's rape case truth.

3. All those flashback scenes with Nitya are lame too! I like the innocent chirpy nitya. But Dev doesn't complement her.

4. Minimal expression on seeing an unconscious and bleeding raima.

5.All that screaming at Durga seems artificial too!

I seriously hope Bhuvnesh reads this post of mine. Its only from criticism that someone can improve.

He's good looking but needs to put in more effort on his acting which is very poor compared to his co stars.

I find it amusing on reading posts like "tum acting karke dihao". We are not actors. We are viewers and we expect the lead actor to perform better.

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642126

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Posted: 10 years ago

#43

I am not offended by you.

Rather you do seem offended by what I post and even my interactions with other members.

You have right to post your PoV as do I and others like Debs.

No one is stopping you.

Bhuvnesh needs to improve bigtime and that is not bashing. The scenes where he was good he was praised. In fact if you REALLY did follow my posts this much then you must have seen my posts when Dev had entered this show. I had praised him and had hopes from his character. Only selective following of few posts cannot give you complete picture.😊

Also stop trying to act as a victim please. Nobody has an agenda here to give truckload of X, Y, Z to Dev supporters. We have many Dev fans here and had very civil debates with them. This is no war zone where everyone is sitting with guns to shoot off the other. We responded to points in this thread. Not attacked with some agenda! Nor do we gag anyone. We clarified our stance. If that also seems like barrage of negativity to you then what can we do?

Genuine criticism seems bashing to you. Response seems truckload of backlash. Fair enough.

Please stop naming people and getting personal. I avoid personal arguments. Not my nature to call out names on public forums. I have made myself clear in a polite manner. I will not repeat same things again and again.

You can post anything you want on this forum. No one is targetting Mr Bhuvnesh Mann nor stopping his fans from posting anything.

Finally please get over me and my posts. You need not stalk/follow me this much and get affected. My posts do not affect actors, fans or course of the show or anybody's perception. General channel, general show, general forum and my general posts on these general channels/shows. Why so serious that you have to register and make an account and thread especially to call out on those posts?

Relax. And peace out.

Edited by atominis - 10 years ago

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deepalee

@deepalee

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Posted: 10 years ago

#44

Casting directors cast him. They were okay with his acting skills and pronunciation. There is someone called an episode director. He/she okays the shots. Still both the writers n the actor bear the brunt repeatedly. I am sure the director can be a little more responsible n should be discussed for over or underplayed scenes. Specially durga's dialogues...she pauses at wrong intervals or tends to stress wrong letters/words etc. It needs to be corrected as the dialogues lose its impact when delivered inaccurately. I agree the word dheela is really not in good taste. I am glad u pointed out. And yes the members r free to use that word as we r free not to find it in good taste.

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642126

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Posted: 10 years ago

#45

Dheela is not an abuse. In any language.

If you do not like it then you yourself do not use it. But do not expect others to write words you like or do not like. Dictating and moral policing is against forum rules. You write whatever you want for Dev or Bhuvnesh, why are you writing posts calling out to members by name and wanting them to write or not write a certain way?

Yes directors and writers are at fault. But actors have responsibility too. A good actor makes up for lags of others in team. And himself/herself brings a lot to the table. Not my fault or others' if we find Bhuvnesh somewhat lacking in this quality.

BTW welcome another newbie. Wish there were so many members earlier also then discussions would be richer with different POVs. Anyway better late than never. Hope to see you all around in other threads too.

Once again best of luck to Mr Bhuvnesh Mann for upcoming tracks which are long awaited by audience and meaty sequences for any actor to sink his teeth into. I genuinely hope he, writers, directors, cameraman, make up man, lightman, spot boys etc, nail those scenes and make them stand out. And we don't have to blame anyone in case scenes are underwhelming.

BTW there are same technical team for all artistes. Not just Bhuvnesh. Just saying.

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dey.bh

@dey.bh

Rocker

Posted: 10 years ago

#46

My comment about wrong exmaple was for the Indian television as a whole and I have discussed it in various forums including a thread in debate mansion.

BUt here I will stick to Dev and other EHT characters only as per the IF norms.

Dev has been shown as an educated man with good morals. THat is great but why do all men and women who are good have to dumb in such shows ? EHT in particular was suppose to be about women empowerment and to put a picture about crimes against women. All it did so far was to glorify the crimes and the criminals. One cannot deny that the makers had put all their effort in developing the characters of Sakshi, Raj and Shaurya but what about the hero ? Even Akash's character had so much depth. Even Mathur's character was crafted with extreme care. They didn't take much pain in makign this character. They simply used the over used formula of Indian television.

Good = Idiot = Bhola bhala = Chakki me pisne wala gehu= Hero.

Dev's character has been shown missing the obvious clues. I understand he is not an investigator but a man is suppose to use his common sense or not ? He is a literate man after all. Discussing everything in open, keeping all the loopholes open and trying to nail the culprit with eyes shut and yet he is to be loved because he is the only good man amongst the worst.😆

All these end up showing that one can anyways modify the legal system in India to meet their needs which is so not true. Since you are new you may not know about it we had a racist comment a couple of days ago.

Also another person commented that people in the Third World countries make money by unfair means.

But thats not true at all. The way Dev sold his shares to get the money was the worst way to get money. Sell Goenka's shares to defeat the Goenkas and expect they will not look after why you need that much money.😆

Whenever we criticise any character we make sure we logically bring all the details in the discussion. I dont understand why should that be any problem. In fact you all can tell us why and where we are wrong in that particular thread. Every thread is open to all. If we are wrong in judging this character then please feel free to come over to tell us about it in the particular thread We will gladly accept your POV.

We have criticised every character for your kind information. I am the one who said Durga too can face legal actions because she is after all faking her identity. Is this called bashing ?

I am the one who criticised Dayal on his double standards. Is this called bashing ?

I have criticised Raima. Sakshi. Shaurya and also the lawyer who was watching the rape sceneas if it was a po*n movie. All this accounts to bashing ?

Perhaps one is not suppose to criticise the hero. He is a good man and that should be enough reason to praise him

Hail the hero!!

Edited by dey.bh - 10 years ago

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Ecrivain

@Ecrivain

Stunner

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Posted: 10 years ago

#47

Originally posted by: TheGadabout
Wow. Everyone knows your name Anu! Including all the aire gaire newbies.😆
I'm very happy for you mate.

🤣

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anwesha rath

@Anurulz

Rocker

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Posted: 10 years ago

#48

Originally posted by: deepalee
Casting directors cast him. They were okay with his acting skills and pronunciation. There is someone called an episode director. He/she okays the shots. Still both the writers n the actor bear the brunt repeatedly. I am sure the director can be a little more responsible n should be discussed for over or underplayed scenes. Specially durga's dialogues...she pauses at wrong intervals or tends to stress wrong letters/words etc. It needs to be corrected as the dialogues lose its impact when delivered inaccurately. I agree the word dheela is really not in good taste. I am glad u pointed out. And yes the members r free to use that word as we r free not to find it in good taste.

well, if the actors and writers are winning accolades for the show being a success, then they can very well be bearing the brunt of bad characterisation and bad acting..i dnt get it, is the forum only to go fawning over the characters no matter how badly written they are?? say "oh he/she is so cute" even if there are no expressions on the actor's face..and at the risk of repeating what others have said, "dheela" is not an abuse..my God, if u guys find offence at this word, please dnt visit other show forums, where much sharper words are used for characters..in fact, in one forum, animal-names have been banned coz of their frequent use😆..this is one of the most civil forums on IF, surprising how suddenly sum members are being treated like Nazis here..

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642126

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Posted: 10 years ago

#49

True Debs!

There are threads by us on Dayal, Durga, each Goenka and all moral and legal issues attached to them and even memes on each. Yet people see only posts on Bhuvnesh? And since when is raising questions on a character's actions/inaction amounting to bashing?