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dey.bh

@dey.bh

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Posted: 10 years ago

#21

@ TM: First of all thanks for liking our posts. Lets analyse your query about this issue. I want to share a few details.

Also, dont call us bashers please. Basher is a potent word. Can we be called critics instead ? We are also fans of the show only of other kind.

1. CRITICISM FOR DEV: Dev has been criticised and the reasons have been cited ample of times. We have always maintained that Dev is the weakest link in the show. His character was fit in the story one fine day. The makers took so much pain in creating the story and its background but they didn't bother much about shaping Dev's background before setting him in. I am sorry his absence all this while is not justified.

Also, along with Dev all the EHT characters has been criticised. From Dayal to that lawyer, each of them has been criticised but at the end of the day Dev is the lead and he will have more limelight than others.

2. CRITICISM FOR MR. MANN: He has been critised because his skills are meant for a family show and not a thriller. I am a thriller fan and the makers promised me a thriller in the beginning. I calculate everything in that standard only. He doesn't fit here yet I never made a abusive comment on him. All my comments were in fact very much civil to the best of my knowledge. I always maintained he would do wonders in a family show.

3. THE ACTORS VISIT THE FORUMS : Yes, of course they do and that's why this forum was made. Constructive criticism is important for creatives or people working in such fields. People from such fields like acting, sports or wrtiing often do have the ability to accept criticism and theycan well deal with it. Infact Mr. AYub Khan not only visited Kolkata Khobor but also appreciated it.

Besides, the forum has a report button for abusive posts.

4. ITS MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH TOO : Like the people who do the appreciation, I too have the right to say whatever is right or point out what is wrong. In fact I am answerable to no one in this regard. Only because I dont say the same thing and don't appreciate a few things doesn't make me a basher.

5. TRP DOESN"T ENSURE QUALITY : We all know how TRPs are calculated and manipulated. It assures nothing, nothing at all.

Also, as one may know I have appreciated as much I have criticised in this forum.

Originally posted by: sushitalover03
Very much needed post
i am competely agree with u
this fourm people basing only dev not liking this
and people who think bhuvnesh is bad actor ap log thodi acting kar shakte
ho agar nahi than you are not have right to critisiam other

That is a strong comment you made. By that logic you are not supose to appreciate him either because you too don't understand acting.😆

Moral policing is also against IF rules BUT constructive criticism is a part of discussion you cannot evade. Please stick to the discussion why Dev is criticised so much and stop making general comments on the members who do not share you point of view.

Edited by dey.bh - 10 years ago

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anwesha rath

@Anurulz

Rocker

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Posted: 10 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: sushitalover03

ur express ur view about chatracter not on actor and this forum rule

actually the rule pretty much says comments on an actor's looks or comparison posts are not allowed..every single forum on the site, has discussions on actors and their acting..tht is wht the site is all abt, discussion on the show and related topics..appreciation threads are galore on the site for the same..if an actor is not doing his job upto the mark, we as the viewers are entitled to comment on it..there is no written rule on IF tht only fans of actors are to make posts..there is a diff between criticism and bashing..

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ruffledfeathers

@ruffledfeathers

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Posted: 10 years ago

#23

This post seems to have attracted quite strong reactions. Just my two cents:

1. Calling anyone names, is not right, whether Sakshi or Dev or any character. This post is about Dev, so I mentioned him specifically.

2. It is true that we all have views that we'd like to write about and that is why the forum exists. And no one is saying that actors/writers/other technicians cannot be criticised - we have all the rights to do so. But criticism can be made in a constructive way too, isn't it? That way there is more chance of someone being receptive to the point being made by the critic.

3. We expect actors/writers of the show to read our comments and take it sportingly. Of course it is in the actor/writer's interest to pick up the point made and try to improve. But how is repeatedly giving negative feedback going to help anyone? Is that going to make them perform better?

I make these comments regardless of whether the actors concerned visit the forum or not. We have all the right to express what we feel about the show, characters, actors, technicians. Negative feedback is also part of the deal, but surely we can do this without being hurtful?

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dey.bh

@dey.bh

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Posted: 10 years ago

#24

@ Anu: No one mocked Bhuvnesh for his looks. People here were crticisng only Dev and his ways. Whats wrong with that ? Dev is after all a fictional character but people like us are real. How can anyone be so insenstive to label us as 'bashers' because we dont think the way they do ?

@ Ruffled feather: Good point. SO you believe in constructive critcism. I am glad to know that because in IF if you don't use sugar coated words you are a basher.

Who told you there are no appreciation posts here in this forum ? I may not have made one on Dev but my fellow members have made. Also, we have appreciated whatever was appreciable in this character.

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Ecrivain

@Ecrivain

Stunner

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Posted: 10 years ago

#25

Hmm all I want to say is tht sometimes even in the biggest of the shows n movies ..some characters NOT the man leads one but the ones who are from the supporting cast n stuff ...make a mark n make a place for themselves in the fans hearts ..

How many times we end up praising a nani or a dadi or a sis or a bro or anyone EVEN more than the actual lead ..n aTHAT Solely depends upon the actor's calibre to pull up the role given to him/her

From where I see it ..the actor here has not been able to live up to the expectations n the character of DEV..and I agree it' could be cos of the script or the makers n stuff l.but eventually what we see as a viewer is JUST the character n the actor ..so automatically the praise or criticsm comes to the actor ...who should n Knows how to handle both

All I am trying to say is tht as viewrers everyone can criticsm or praise the said characters of the show they watch n it's preety much justified ...one should be Able to take it in the right spirit ...

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dey.bh

@dey.bh

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Posted: 10 years ago

#26

one should be Able to take it in the right spirit

BINGO !!!!!!

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sushitalover03

@sushitalover03

Explorer

Posted: 10 years ago

#27

@dey.bh we all watching this serial for enjoyment
I am also agree with u some point regrading dev chatracter but
but making topic on actor that not right at all that only my point

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anwesha rath

@Anurulz

Rocker

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Posted: 10 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: ruffledfeathers
This post seems to have attracted quite strong reactions. Just my two cents:

1. Calling anyone names, is not right, whether Sakshi or Dev or any character. This post is about Dev, so I mentioned him specifically.

2. It is true that we all have views that we'd like to write about and that is why the forum exists. And no one is saying that actors/writers/other technicians cannot be criticised - we have all the rights to do so. But criticism can be made in a constructive way too, isn't it? That way there is more chance of someone being receptive to the point being made by the critic.

3. We expect actors/writers of the show to read our comments and take it sportingly. Of course it is in the actor/writer's interest to pick up the point made and try to improve. But how is repeatedly giving negative feedback going to help anyone? Is that going to make them perform better?

I make these comments regardless of whether the actors concerned visit the forum or not. We have all the right to express what we feel about the show, characters, actors, technicians. Negative feedback is also part of the deal, but surely we can do this without being hurtful?

i appreciate what ur saying..i wud like to say sumthn here in the context of "repeated negative comments"..the character of dev has been around since atleast 3-4 months..initial comments on him were neutral going to positive..we liked his entry and the fact tht he was to be an ally to durga..later, as the writing started getting shoddy and loose, the so-called "positive criticism" was started..u can scroll thru the earlier pages of the forum in case u dnt believe this..inspite of analysis threads, suggestions, helpful comments, the character continued to go downhill to the extent tht this character was portrayed so incapable of joining the dots in front of him tht he started seeming abnormal..THAT is when gradually the forum-members started losing patience and the criticism started becoming more "negative"..and the irony is tht there is STILL no improvement in the way the character is being written..and i still maintain, there have not been any abuses hurled at the character unlike sum other show forums..this forum remains civil even when the members disagree with each other..

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642126

Hibernated

Posted: 10 years ago

#29

If ee cannot act then we cannot comment on acting?

What logic is this?

By this logic we cannot even make serials then we should not be commenting on shows at all! 😆

If people want to constantly praise someone then they are free to make ATs. In fact free to make threads everyday to praise the actor's scenes.

Actors visit forum and feel bad? Hello! A true actor is open to all feedback. Do you know Aamir Khan had no moderation on his blog, FB and Twitter? He never curbs kind of comments made and even responds to criticism. That is what actors do. Open to all feedback than just expect praise.

Bhuvnesh can take a lesson.

As far as I know none has used extreme words for his acting. We always say he needs to improve, step up. Is it rude? How? It cannot get more polite than that!

Bhuvnesh can get offended if people personally tweet to him. If he or any other actor scouts the web then they can find anything written there. They should be prepared for it. And not expect only praise.

We have commented on all aspects. Not just Dev or Bhuvnesh. Last night we found Ayub Khan OTT we wrote it. In suicide episode we felt Simone's reaction as a mother was not upto the mark and we wrote on it. Everything and everyone is written about. If people still think only Dev is picked on then it is their perception.

Meme and joke threads have jokes on even side characters like Mandal not just Dev. They are in spirit of fun.

In fact someone on Twitter copied a meme from here and shared it with Bhuvnesh on Twitter and he laughed and RTed it.

Not our problem if others are touchy and indulge in moral policing.

Good luck to Bhuvnesh for remaining huge scenes where he has scope to show his skill. Hope he nails them. Only blaming CVs or viewers cannot always excuse an actor because major scenes are coming in near future.

Tell actor to step up than ask people to praise him. And if you new IDs dislike posts here this much then use Report button. Though no one reports even racist and abusive posts here and no action is taken!

Lastly Teena is a newcomer and not as experienced as Bhuvnesh. She nails even brief scenes she is in and makes trauma believable. Being new is no excuse.

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dey.bh

@dey.bh

Rocker

Posted: 10 years ago

#30

I dont know which thread are you referring to but one I know has nothing that is against the IF rules.

This is what the rule says.

India-forums.com Code of Conduct strictly forbids members from bashing fellow members, DT members and celebrities. This includes the use of foul language, as well as any personal remarks, i.e. how the actor looks like, as they have no control over it! We welcome members to share their constructive criticism on the absurdity of the series's story line and character, as well as to discuss the actor's talents

As long as you dont use foul language or criticize an actor's looks criticism on an actor is very much allowed. If you find one thread breaching the terms and conditions of the rule book just report them and it will be locked right away.

Edited by dey.bh - 10 years ago

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