The Chasm: Semantic Possibilities - Page 3

Originally posted by: nith125

Indrani 👏 was this what you were keeping from us ?

Brilliantly written 👏 👏

And I agree with you completely. After I watched the episode, I must say the Pati-Patni dialogue stood out. And yes he will not let her become Nirmala and neither will she let Shravan remain this way.

I am borrowing from my own post about Snakes and ladders to add to this point where I had rambled on how some of the inanimate things have had a significant role to play.

Daal : The ubiquitous daal, snake to ladder. Intially it created a small problem between them but in the end it is symbolic of their relationship. Remember what Shravan says, that Sumo is special to him and he doesn't think of her like the other women, but the important line comes after that, he asks her to add something (her love) in the daal , to make it hers and then he will eat it. He will never accept Nirmala and Sumo has the same qualities but her love makes a big difference to him and his love will transform her.

Hats off to you girl !

Originally posted by: QUIRKY333

@rekha and @glassdoor - i am in awe, yet again! how do you guys write SO well!?

@glassdoor (sorry I don;t know your name) - your little piece was extremely effective in elevating shravan's craving for sumo to a whole new level! 😳

Originally posted by: glassdoor

Oh man..😆

Res...

Hope I can fill up something here later. Will need to read your post atleast five times to get it.

Unres ...

Are you my English professor in disguise? Don't mind my lousy reading comprehension please. 😆

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My 2 paisa,
Spoken words follow the rules of scrabble. The weight of each word depends on the words that come below it. That is why I cringe every time I hear Shravan speak. Once the poisonous word arrows are let go they cannot be recalled.

I agree with you to a great extent. Poor Shravan, he was hunting for a reasonable reason to marry her. And he found the flimsiest see through reason to do what he always wanted to do.😆

In fact I think part of the reason he finds Sumo irresistible is because she has always been elusive and forbidden. She is a big mess of different colors that he can 'sort out' like his very own rubiks cube. His dad not liking Suman has made it all the more challenging for him.

Over the coming weeks he will overwork his brains to make sure she is chasing her own tail. The fact that she will fight him tooth and nail will make it all the more delightful for him.

He has married her because he never plans to let her go again. He will do anything to make this all work. Because he has never believed that she has been like Nirmala. His only worry is that his father will think she is like Nirmala due to her behavior.

That is why he is telling his dad(in his mind of course)

'She might be what you think she is. But again she won't be.
I will never let her be what you don't want her to be.
Because she is so totally NOT in the first place!
I will present her in a nice even light by shuffling things.
I will create the image of her comeliness through my own devices.'

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Originally posted by: glassdoor

Oh man..😆

Res...

Hope I can fill up something here later. Will need to read your post atleast five times to get it.

Unres ...

Are you my English professor in disguise? Don't mind my lousy reading comprehension please. 😆

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My 2 paisa,
Spoken words follow the rules of scrabble. The weight of each word depends on the words that come below it. That is why I cringe every time I hear Shravan speak. Once the poisonous word arrows are let go they cannot be recalled.

I agree with you to a great extent. Poor Shravan, he was hunting for a reasonable reason to marry her. And he found the flimsiest see through reason to do what he always wanted to do. 😆

In fact I think part of the reason he finds Sumo irresistible is because she has always been elusive and forbidden. She is a big mess of different colors that he can 'sort out' like his very own rubiks cube. His dad not liking Suman has made it all the more challenging for him.

Over the coming weeks he will overwork his brains to make sure she is chasing her own tail. The fact that she will fight him tooth and nail will make it all the more delightful for him.

He has married her because he never plans to let her go again. He will do anything to make this all work. Because he has never believed that she has been like Nirmala. His only worry is that his father will think she is like Nirmala due to her behavior.

That is why he is telling his dad(in his mind of course)

'She might be what you think she is. But again she won't be.
I will never let her be what you don't want her to be.
Because she is so totally NOT in the first place!
I will present her in a nice even light by shuffling things.
I will create the image of her comeliness through my own devices.'

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Originally posted by: glassdoor

Oh man..😆

Res...

Hope I can fill up something here later. Will need to read your post atleast five times to get it.

Unres ...

Are you my English professor in disguise? Don't mind my lousy reading comprehension please. 😆

Mere research scholar...pursuing Ph. D in English

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My 2 paisa,
Spoken words follow the rules of scrabble. The weight of each word depends on the words that come below it. That is why I cringe every time I hear Shravan speak. Once the poisonous word arrows are let go they cannot be recalled.

Dont even remind me of those words..have still not been able to forget...and those words will singe him for ever...

I agree with you to a great extent. Poor Shravan, he was hunting for a reasonable reason to marry her. And he found the flimsiest see through reason to do what he always wanted to do. 😆

In fact I think part of the reason he finds Sumo irresistible is because she has always been elusive and forbidden. She is a big mess of different colors that he can 'sort out' like his very own rubiks cube. His dad not liking Suman has made it all the more challenging for him.

Am not sure...whether he finds Sumo as a sort of a game...at the present moment he might believe her to be one...Sumo was an enigmatic figure...but, if you remember Shravan did not pen down that letter immediately...he had learned to value her, acknowledge her as more than a mess and after an year he took down to express his thoughts in writing...I still think he did consider her more sorted than anyone else he knew..though conveniently a madcap as well...Madness had a method 😆

And his friendship with her was never dictated by the sanctions of his elders...it was meant to be in secret...in fact, they had developed code signals to enjoy each other's company without it being disturbed by the authority figures. His father never told him to choose to be or not to be friends with Sumo in the first place...It was a choice they both made...

Over the coming weeks he will overwork his brains to make sure she is chasing her own tail. The fact that she will fight him tooth and nail will make it all the more delightful for him.

That it will be because...he will know that his Sumo had never vanished...she was always there...it was he who was reading her wrong

He has married her because he never plans to let her go again. He will do anything to make this all work. Because he has never believed that she has been like Nirmala. His only worry is that his father will think she is like Nirmala due to her behavior.

That is why he is telling his dad(in his mind of course)

'She might be what you think she is. But again she won't be.
I will never let her be what you don't want her to be.
Because she is so totally NOT in the first place!
I will present her in a nice even light by shuffling things.
I will create the image of her comeliness through my own devices.'

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Originally posted by: mannu100

This is just a master piece

U slayed it again..

And Pati Patni.. Itself ..stablished the foundation of a journey.

Journey to become one.

Journey to discover each other.

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Originally posted by: glassdoor

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In fact I think part of the reason he finds Sumo irresistible is because she has always been elusive and forbidden. She is a big mess of different colors that he can 'sort out' like his very own rubiks cube. His dad not liking Suman has made it all the more challenging for him.

Hmmm...honestly i never thought of it like that...It is my belief that when you form image of a person you love as a youngster, as Shravan has in this case, it is always meant to be a bit muddled. That is the comedy and tragedy of it...😆 The beauty in this tale of the teenagers is that they did not actually articulate what they felt then...Its like they have let it simmer and now it is love between adults yet it has the unmistakable shadow of the genesis of their relationship. I would baulk at calling it forbidden though..I don't think Shravan ever saw her as a challenge..This is not how I read him..but I guess interpretations are natural when the lovesick boy of yore talks in a menacing tone about showing the "place"...

Over the coming weeks he will overwork his brains to make sure she is chasing her own tail. The fact that she will fight him tooth and nail will make it all the more delightful for him.

He has married her because he never plans to let her go again. He will do anything to make this all work. Because he has never believed that she has been like Nirmala. His only worry is that his father will think she is like Nirmala due to her behavior.

That is why he is telling his dad(in his mind of course)

'She might be what you think she is. But again she won't be.
I will never let her be what you don't want her to be.
Because she is so totally NOT in the first place!
I will present her in a nice even light by shuffling things.
I will create the image of her comeliness through my own devices.'

Sheesh, what a beautiful name!!

@bold hat was powerful and the sum total of how he will respond to Ram's bait every time.👏👏

Even when he knows nothing about the past, and Ram's machinations...he knows that Sumo is not Nirmala...well why...why...becos he will not ever let it be...how...becos he is not Ram either...

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Originally posted by: QUIRKY333

@indrani - come, let me give you a very tight hug! the way you have explained the nuances - is for the keeps! so many Aha! moments i had reading the post!

Shravan - desperate to marry sumo - in the garb of being a good son and unknowingly so (the garb that is)- chose to marry sumo - when he should have done the exact opposite - Ah! of course!

Sumo - the girl who once made a choice to include Shravan as her friend in the garb of acccepting a challenge she never attempted to solve - chose to make this new Shravan her life partner, again accepting a challenge and making a choice - when she could have easily done the opposite - Ah! the beauty of this parallel!

Shravan - the boy who always wanted to shadow his Sumo and was practically incomplete without her - finally said it himself, albeit unknowingly - that he cannot play his part as a husband without her being the wife - it takes two to tango after all - Of course!

Sumo - the girl who could not find any happiness in marrying an apparently happy-go-lucky aditya suddenly found unbridled happiness in marrying a Shravan - one that is grim and apparently hates her - and she does not know the reason in her beleief, a belief that sounds utterly ridiculous - but as she said she feels deep down as if everything if finally falling in to place - Ah! if this is not love - blind and unreasonable and very very stubborn - then what is!

the way Shravan and Sumo keeps getting intertwined with each other without even realizing it is pure love. The way they are attracted to each other to a very deep core - much much beyond any physical connect, is pure love.The way they admit being incomplete without each other and don;t even realize that they are admitting it, is pure love.

You know when I first saw it...I felt that Sumo's optimism and Shravan's hate were projected as one of stated difference...but, then you only love someone when that person evokes that love within you...Hate likewise...encapsulates as one of distance between love...but, love it does signify...not as its opposite but more as a parallel...Love nad hate, optimism and cynicism...are the mirror image here...Shravan's loos and Sumo's pain are both embodied as one thread connected to each other...by that elusive and enigmatic thread called...love

And Ramnath is scared. If he had been scared of Nirmala his entire lifetime (so much so that he fears even her shadow), he rightfully should be damn scared of Sumo. because unlike Nirmala, she is going nowhere. Here is a girl whose love and belief in her love is so strong that she waited for a decade around the corner for her love to return - with no expectations. She is here to stay and sweep her man off his feet.

When Shravan gives her the pen to sign at the place...wife..he knew she would sign...not as a challenge though perforce read as a challenge...but, because trust was still there...And Sumo saddened and to a certain extent defeated took on the mantle of Mrs. Malhotra...she reposed his trust...that work or no work...one day, his and hers way shall meet ..as they are meeting now...though with the chasm also evident...

Indrani - the way you understand and the way you write - is pure love darling! ❤️