Suman Tiwari -- A Sly Girl - Page 5

Originally posted by: malikakas

So I understand what you are saying but I disagree that that premise is applicable here.

Given Shravan's backstory his character growth is very much central to the plot. Particularly the fact that Aditya has been written as a foil to Shravan. They wouldn't have opened up the avenue of Shravan's misogynistic tendencies if it weren't a story of what it takes for two people who are meant to be to come together.

I'd probably add that this idea that the ML is a prize that the FL has to "deserve"-- is probably a reflection of the internalized misogyny we have in our culture which is sort of what the above poster was alluding to.

I wouldn't say she is as bad as you mentioned, but Suman is extremely self absorbed. It is me, myself and I with her. Very rarely does this woman spare a thought beyond her own cocoon.

Originally posted by: malikakas

@bold... but why? Why can't she accept anything from Aditya? Having self respect doesn't mean that you can't accept anyone's help if its reasonable and based on merit. What it means is that you don't accept anything someone is giving to you as charity while taunting you. When Shravan first offered the PCT he was giving it as an insult-- not because HE genuinely wanted her to have it. In fact it wasn't even his idea, it was Ramnath's. Whereas now Aditya is offering it as investment in her talent. They are very different things.

Shravan really has no right to be angry that she took PCT from Aditya... his entire complaint in these last few episodes have been about how Suman doesn't take help from anyone. But his real issue is that she is not taking help from him. This is about his ego/insecurity not hers. I totally understand where Shravan is coming from. I've always been able to empathize with Shravan's pov. But he is being unfair in expecting Sumo to only think about his point of view but not thinking about hers.

Suman has more responsibilities in her life than just Shravan. She's already shown her willingness to sacrifice for him by risking her PCT to defend Shravan's honor.

Originally posted by: PC00

I wouldn't say she is as bad as you mentioned, but Suman is extremely self absorbed. It is me, myself and I with her. Very rarely does this woman spare a thought beyond her own cocoon.

One can argue that she supports her own family, but she shows very little consideration or care for Shravan and claims to love him.

Originally posted by: Deb_05

I find her awful because I can't tolerate girls like her. They irk me completely. And I agree. It's always her way or the highway. Otherwise she starts complaining and screaming. Exactly! When it comes to Shravan, she is least bothered. Is this truly her affection? I mean, I don't even see genuine friendship here. Love is out of the question for me.

Originally posted by: cullen-luvr

I guess it depends on who you believe is the protagonist of the story. I believe that Sumo alone is writer's protagonist, because Sumo is the one who makes many of the major decisions in the plot. If we look at the current situation, it is Sumo who is shown the most, who has to make the decision of marrying Aditya, and who we are expected to "relate" with. In addition, if you go through the initial promos of the show, it's very clear that Sumo has been the intended protagonist from the start.

Secondly, the writers are to blame for depicting Shravan as the "prize". The plot structure of challenge and prize is very common in literature, and it is the CV's of most desi shows that use this structure in such a way. The original comment made was that we as viewers should judge the hero and heroine on the same level. My point is that, according to the structure used by the writers, it only make sense that the viewer evaluates Suman more critically. I'm saying that it isn't viewer's fault for being critical of Suman, it is writers who choose the protagonist and so they are the ones to blame.

Originally posted by: PC00

She has the guts to be rude to his face when he is trying to help her, but she runs away the minute he throws a massive tantrum. She thinks of herself as independent and assertive, then why can't she show up at his place and tell him off for being a douche to her (not to do that again) and that she loves him. It would be shocking, but it would also mean putting her pride aside and fighting for him. Suman seems to have courage only when she is rude to him, but other times her courage goes out the window.

Great post Deb.. 😊
When the show had started she had been the best FL..confident,never taking shit lying down but as the show progressed her USP got lost somewhere and she became just like any FL..the ultimate abla nari(as u said) one is victim of circumstance,who is helpless.
Her self respect made sense earlier(during reunion party) but after that it became an excuse for everything which went against her wish.
Somewhere I can understand the reason for not being able to refuse nanaji but I had hoped she would atleast tell Adi the truth..but that never happened..
Her behavior with Shravan was erratic.One day saying that she needs to be away from him and wants him to hate her and then saying that she needs to do something to bring him closer.
She told Ramnath that their love is strong and Shravan will come back to her but then and went ahead and closed all the doors to make it possible.
She told Shravan not to pay for the hall/ring and then accepted the lehenga from Adi even after knowing there was no discount on it..
CVs ruined her so much that now its difficult to sympathise with her..
I m not saying that Shravan is without fault.He also made assumptions and saw everything from biased eyes but somewhere I can understand him and his flaws which m not able to do with Sumo.

suman is not sly

Originally posted by: malikakas