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Posted: 9 years ago
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dont say sorry yaar! u raised good points. i am a management consultant and can relate to each and every word u wrote. btw have u read lean in


Yes dear I did!! I liked it...however some people said that since she was born in to a privileged family...a lot of things were easier for her to achieve than a lot of common people...who do not hail from wealthy families! Nonetheless...I liked it.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I have seen all my life , My mom working , Dad never created any issue . He knows all the household stuff and taught both me and my younger bro .
I can't thank him and mum , enough that because of them I can stay alone and completely take care of myself without being dependent on anyone .

Once , i asked dad, Why don't you take offense in doing the household things, when mum is not present or she is tired . He told me , this is how it is supposed to be . Where is this written that household things should be done by women ?


His point was , women can handle both outside works as well as household , Why can't men .


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Posted: 9 years ago
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forget this!
i am a qualified CA. i am these days doing a POST QUALIFICATION COURSE (FAFP) and the number of girls attending this course are way too less. and the fact that they just dont credit girls for hard work doesnt go well along with me...

when asked about my qualification and my name, they have this stereotype thing ohji aap to baniya ho!
like really!! my surname is more relevant now!!

you guys wont believe what happened at a seminar on fraud prevention which was being attended by chartered accountants all over delhi.!
there was this partner( FEMALE) from GRAND THORTON who was giving an amazing insight into frauds and profiles of fraudsters. there she stated the fact that 65% fraud was committed by men... just this statement & all hell broke loose. she was literally bashed over there..! like how can you say this. its absurd. n blah! i was literally ashamed at that point of time on these people who call themselves educated.! such egoistic MCP'S
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Posted: 9 years ago
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So true... looking for the story to unfold in front of shravan
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jugni-Udi

I have seen all my life , My mom working , Dad never created any issue . He knows all the household stuff and taught both me and my younger bro .

I can't thank him and mum , enough that because of them I can stay alone and completely take care of myself without being dependent on anyone .

Once , i asked dad, Why don't you take offense in doing the household things, when mum is not present or she is tired . He told me , this is how it is supposed to be . Where is this written that household things should be done by women ?


His point was , women can handle both outside works as well as household , Why can't men .



Same here both of my parents are working and there has never been a issue at home if mom is working late or dad It doesn't matter. If my mom has a office party dad will be the first one to tell her to go and tell her not to worry, he will do everything at home. And not just him my Dadaji was the same, when my Daadi was working he would be at home and clean and make your that my dad, uncles and my aunt had eaten and he cooked himself which made dad learn cooking to. So it's not a bad thing.

I feel the person who knows how to cook and has a job Is independent bcs that's a thing you need in life to survive. Than I have also seen people which are MCPs and that's terrible.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

I get Nirmala as a working woman myself. She is right it's tough to be a woman. I started working after I graduated from university. I was single then, but a few years later I got married. Still worked. Had a kid, still worked. I did take some time out for about 1.5 years after my 2nd but now at full time work again since this year. It's always tough to balance work and life. Especially when you work in the corporate world, and have meetings and events sometimes etc.

Fortunately I don't have a MCP husband. So I don't have any concerns on that score. But I had a working Mother too. She was a lecturer. Sometimes Dad got frustrated with her hours when she had exams on and other writing commitments etc. But not as bad as Shravan's dad. What an ace jerk!


To be honest to be a working married women all you need is balance and support from your family (as a man need) that's all their is no other thing needed. That's what Ramanth couldn't provide to Nirmala. Even a man needs the same thing from his family if a woman can support a man, why can't a man support a woman??


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shivani_agl

forget this!
i am a qualified CA. i am these days doing a POST QUALIFICATION COURSE (FAFP) and the number of girls attending this course are way too less. and the fact that they just dont credit girls for hard work doesnt go well along with me...

when asked about my qualification and my name, they have this stereotype thing ohji aap to baniya ho!
like really!! my surname is more relevant now!!

you guys wont believe what happened at a seminar on fraud prevention which was being attended by chartered accountants all over delhi.!
there was this partner( FEMALE) from GRAND THORTON who was giving an amazing insight into frauds and profiles of fraudsters. there she stated the fact that 65% fraud was committed by men... just this statement & all hell broke loose. she was literally bashed over there..! like how can you say this. its absurd. n blah! i was literally ashamed at that point of time on these people who call themselves educated.! such egoistic MCP'S


But you know girls are dumb we don't know anything. All we can do is look pretty and impress men. That is our life "goals"

Every time I hear something like this I feel disgusted by men, and some men have to big EGO to accept that women may know something which a man doesn't know. Just becomes they can built bigger muscles than a women doesn't it mean they have a bigger brain.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: puba

It is an established fact that men get paid more than women inspite of having similar credentials! That's just how things still are...but it is changing...




Urghh I hate that so much why I MEAN why, why does a women get paid less for the same you a man does?? I have never got that? Is she less in her work than a man?? I don't get it!! The worst part is it's like in every damn country in this world!!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: puba


Yup...there are tons of statistics out there...which show how underrepresented women are in the workforce...especially in executive positions and the sciences!! But I am optimistic that things are only changing for the better. Nowadays...most urban men share household responsibilities so that women can pursue their careers.


But the thing is that...a lot of women actually drop out of the workforce...sometimes by choice...coz they would rather stay at home and look after the family. It starts off as...taking a break for a few years till their kids grow up a bit...but the problem with that in today's times is that...if you have gap years...it is tremendously difficult to get back in to the workforce...coz there is so much competition and no dearth of talent!!!! It is but a very sad truth.

Society is still such that we forget to teach our daughters to dream!!! We forget to teach them to be vissionaries!!

A lot of parents stress education...but education by itself does not mean much...unless you know what to do with it...education can never be the endpoint...it is a means to achieving an overarching goal!

Personally I also don't like the mindset a lot of people have...which is padhai=paisa!

And the other thing that is soo common in India these days...by hook or by crook get people admitted in to engineering/medical/business schools...even though the person might be least interested in those things! The thought is that...koi job toh mil jayegi...bas aur kya chahiye...well the thing is that...these are the type of people who usually drop out...coz they couldn't care less about their work!!

Parents, teachers and others should really let children do what they want instead of just shoving them in to the flow of things!! This kind of mentality breeds mediocrity!

So sorry about the rant!


Don't be sorry you wrote some great points👏
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: KreyaArshiLover


To be honest to be a working married women all you need is balance and support from your family (as a man need) that's all their is no other thing needed. That's what Ramanth couldn't provide to Nirmala. Even a man needs the same thing from his family if a woman can support a man, why can't a man support a woman??



Yes most of us have supportive partners, so we have no issues. Even my Dad always supported my mum's career. He just sometimes used to find it tough if she was away on writing seminars etc. Even he had a successful career when we were kids in the civil service. Same applies to my husband. We both are working and it can be challenging at times to manage work/life balance. But we try and we succeed most of the time. Never had an issue attending work events as my hubby never makes an issue out of any of it, even if he is not invited. (Coz a lot of work events don't include partners these days).

But TRUST and leaving false ego aside is the main thing. If your a "secure" person, your partners success should be something to celebrate not something to feel insure and inferior over. Ramnath proved what a petty and cheap person he is, who can't seen beyond a woman's femininity to her ability as an individual. He insults his wife by implying her boss promoted her because of a personal agenda and not her ability as an employee! It was so disgusting to see him insulting her like that. Makes you cringe. He deserves a slap and also for Shravan to really give him a piece of his mind. He LIED to his son and even now lying to him. He has poisoned his son's mind and now wondering why he is so bitter? He has a lot to answer for and men like him are the problem! It's because of men like him that women never get their due in life! Why even after achieving things women are made to feel inferior!


We are just as good as the next man. Sometimes we are smarter and faster than them! So why pay them more? Why promote them more? Why feel a Mother is not a good employee coz she has kids in her care, but a man who is also a Father is never thought of as having a handicap by having kids? The hypocrisy and double standards are shocking, even in this day and age. I can personally vouch, a guy in my team who was probably 26 at the time used to call in sick more than me or any of my female colleagues did, even when a few of us were pregnant! Being Mothers we neve milked it to call in sick. But some guys used to party and get drunk and call in sick the next day! I am a better employee today with ALL my responsibilities than I was when I first hit the workforce as a new Grad. I was a good employee then, I am even a better one now with 100 more responsibilities on my plate now!
Edited by MrDarcyfan - 9 years ago

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