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Posted: 9 years ago
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Great analysis on Shravan's current state of mind.👍🏼

I agree with you whole heartedly over Q.1 & Q.3.

About Q.2, I feel that he is fully conscious about the extent of his flirting. I find it hard to believe that the almost kiss in the kitchen was subconscious on his part. He had to know what he was doing, if not in the moment then at least right after.😆 His movements felt too deliberate when he was leaning towards her. It was just not Sumo's impossible and unrealistic expectations of a kiss at play there.😆

Anyway, we have yet to see him flirt in that manner with her ever since he asked to renew their friendship (not even 24 hours has passed😆), so I have no clue how he is going to behave going forward. So I guess next week's episodes are gonna clue us in about why he is really doing this.😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Baki

Wonderful analyse Samridhi. Whether it's the way cv is trying to show, don't know. But it makes sense. Only the time will tell. :)


yeah Sumo needs to express herself to him and also show it somehow for him to think she loves him too. right now we know that she likes him but he doesnt and thats all because of of their history.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Great post & analysis!
I think shravans new found friend-come-flirtationship is him trying to reel himself out of the friendzone and make Suman realize her hidden feelings. Being friend zoned sucks if you like your friend. Once you're in too deep, the chances of it changing without doing something to change it is hard---cuz if you don't do something about it, the next thing is being bro'd, and God knows no one wants that.

How do I know?... Experience. I'm a girl and have been bro'd by a guy friend that could've been.. that was the worst. 😭
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Posted: 9 years ago
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fab views Sam, concur with them 👏

most of it , I will be rewriting from my yday's reply

1. Why did he 'friendzone' her? Does he not love her anymore?

He loves her much more than before, his love is mature, selfless, grounded, deeper, he keeps his love on a much higher pedestal, it's not diluted with attraction or infatuation as adults, not affected by his new confidence, suave, style or success. Even when he was hurt or angry with her during the party times.. he never touched her as in twisting arms or pushing her to the wall or going all out vengeance on her, his anger is restrained, controlled, he never crossed his line ..what does that say .. though he was angry and despair.. deep down he can not hurt her and this is his character, Shravan Malhotra's character 👏

For any guy with such good looks, success, intelligence , style and suave,... confessing would be an easy way out as he is very well aware of the girl's reaction and the effect he has on girl .. But is that love ?? NO, it's more of physical attraction between them, which is quite natural ..Shravan didn't hang on to that as well .. he didn't propose to her even after knowing her reaction .. but for Shravan that is not love and wouldn't want Suman to accept her love based on those moments and he is not aware of her real feelings which are changed, in these 10 years .

Why did he friendzone her ??

"Aisa ho saktha hain ki tumhein kuch pasand ho aur main na banao " after hearing this if Shravan confessed "I love you " Suman would reciprocate that she loves him...but Shravan would only feel that she loves him because "aisa ho sakta hain ki usse jo pasand hain aur woh na karein ?? " and does shravan want this ?? NO...even after knowing she can do anything for him, he still friendzone'd her, which is nothing but once again, his character

He is giving her the space, he is letting her take the decision, he is not forcing his feelings on her.. ... on the front it might look like Shravan took the lead when he sealed that beautiful ehsaas as "Dosti" but what I see is he is letting her take the lead from there...from where they started, their innocent friendship which they left 10 years back . If Suman wants to be friends for life, he would be,..and this is not being mahaan or being sacrificing. it's just that... "aisa nahin ho sakta ki Suman ko jo pasand hain aur Shravan na karein ..." he didn't say that word.. but it's written all over the place... it has been an unsaid protocol between them.. just like him always being the one to wait back then and even now...here also he would wait for her , without tagging their relation with "love" he is giving her the space and lead to do what she likes...

And how thoughtful and beautiful is that..where a guy doesn't force his love on the girl ...

Qn 2 : Why is he flirting with her then?

This flirting this is just a charm and I think he does it subconsciously without any plan or intention .. more like he is used to it... over the years he has developed this amazing skill set of sweeping women off the floor with his charm .. remember the divorce case where the wife agreed instantly when Shravan spoke to her and also Urvashi and all kitty ladies were just awed by his charm .. which comes to him naturally .. as that is what he lacked back then ... Sumo went to prom night back then with some other guy and not nerdy Shravan who lacked the charm .. but later over years he developed that very skill and made that weakness as his strength and using it when needed .. but his intentions behind using charm or flirting are harmless (or kitty ladies or the client ) and when it comes to Sumo there are no intentions... it's just natural him..may be he enjoys watching his charm work on her ..
True that about Preeta's angle Sam...valid point .. it did play a catalyst role in Suman's reactions .

Qn3: Did Shravan not notice Suman's behaviour?

He knows his effects on Suman.. he noticed her behavior, he knows how she feels with his touch and with his closeness.. but did he equate it to love ?? No, because despite knowing his effect on her and her reactions.. he didn't equate it with love ,,,he is still unsure of the feelings of "love" with in Suman.. he can't ask..either.. if she loves him .. as that would be forcing his love on her in the name of fees.. it could come out as her ehsaan chukaana for the fees .. and Suman would reciprocate it either way .. but Shravan doesn't want any condition, majboori, ehsaan, to seal their love , So lets start this journey from where we stopped 10 years back and it's beautiful !! The respect he has for their bond is beyond beautiful .He didn't let her thoughts verge into the "guilt" misunderstanding or pain of 10 years, took off from where it stopped 10 years back.

once again, great discussion ⭐️
Edited by munnihyderabad - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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We are all assuming that Shravan is in love with Suman and wants to be with her. What if he has not realized yet that he is in love with Suman. When he came back from London, he was pretty mad at her. He was still holding on to the past... maybe that letter he has is not a reminder of Suman or his love for her, but of betrayal and broken heart. Subconsciously, he has strong attraction towards Suman and he knows he is happy when she is. He knows it is love (as a friend) but doesn't think he is in love. Whatever he did on the terrace is actually moving on by forgiving Suman. He has realized that he is happy with her and wants to keep her in his life. He might not be at a point where he wants to spend his life with her. As for flirting, he was flirting with the other girl (he almost got engaged ot her) as well. So maybe that is just his style. Suman might be reading too much into it as she has already realized that he is not just a friend.

I think this story is not just about Suman's realization but also about Shravan realizing that the girl he thinks is his friend is actually his soul mate.



[DIV]


Based on what I am seeing now, looks like I am right
Edited by shanaaz - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I agree on some points with you Samridhi. I think Shravan is taking things in a cautious way. But he is also not trying for more than friendship. Maybe he also wants a confession from her! Like Preeta said in the Precap "The girl ends up saying I love you" to the guy!


That is exactly what is happening here! This time, the confession wont come from him. Even Suman should realize he has already been quite obvious about his feelings by staging that whole "revenge and payback" drama! Akal use kar Suman! Why do you think he did all this?


But at the same time, an aspect of his behavior is bordering on a mind game, coz of the clear flirting he did before the "Friend Request". We dont see Pushkar act that way with Sumo. Shravan's actions had a clear partiality in them and Suman saw that and got even more confused. She was sure he was flirting and he was. No guy corners you in a closet or a kitchen etc if he is only interested in friendship. But maybe he will flirt, just to see your reaction and THAT is what Shravan was doing. He was gauging her and he KNEW she was affected by him.


Anyways, I know Shravan is not hatching some lame and pathetic "revenge" plot and neither are we going to get a hate marriage, or some stupid faking love track only to find out it was all a set up. We had a mini version of that when he set up the Reunion. But that only lasted a few weeks and we did not get some elaborate and endless plot that looks fake and contrived most of the time. Sick to death of "Jerk Heroes". It is time for a REAL Hero and that is what Shravan is!


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Theres only one thing that confuses me...
Why does he proclaim... and make it clear to his people that there cant be anything more than friendship between them? He not only says they are friends (I have no problems with that) but he adds that there cant be anything more between them... this bothers me.


I get that this point he wants friendship...but why does he speak for the future?
Edited by prejudiced - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I really feel preeti is a bit overdoing it like she was annoying him a little bit when he did not want to answer her call. If preekar is going to happen then kameeni will make sharman as her main target since she hates the tiwaris and also will definitely not want preeti to be her bahu. I feel preeti wants to get married in a high class family and have a luxurious life 🤢
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: prc_fan1


I thought of just creating a separate post for this because so many people are asking the same question over & over - why is Shravan flirting with Suman if he friendzoned her? Is he leading her on? Is he trying to get a confession?

So here's my 2 cents & this is strictly my POV. Please feel free to disagree.
NO. HE IS NOT LEADING HER ON. NO HE IS NOT TRYING TO GET HER TO CONFESS. NO HE IS NOT PLAYING MIND GAMES.
HAMARA SHRAVAN MALHOTRA AISA NAHIN HAI.

1. Why did he 'friendzone' her? Does he not love her anymore?

He was immature in the past, & wrote her a love confession, & lost her. He held on to the hurt not just because she betrayed him as a friend in that moment when he needed her, but also because somewhere she rejected him & his love everyday with her belittling remarks. But now, he cannot afford to loose her anymore. He himself said it that despite all the years spent apart, he could never get her out of his life, his mind, his heart. So, he offered her friendship by prioritizing her, over his own desire to want more than just that. And to some extent, even freed her. By freeing her, I mean that he let go of expectations that she could ever love him, or that she has to. So somewhere when he asked for friendship again, it was really a clean slate to start off where it started. As friends. From the first day they became friends, not where they left off a decade ago & this was indicated in the way young ShraMan were juxtaposed with adult ShraMan in the terrace scene. That doesn't mean he doesn't love her anymore. He still does. But he's chosen to give his love the name of friendship..which is why he called friendship sabse khoobsurat ehsaas. If the time comes, he may give up on 'love' but not friendship.. because it is the friendship that binds them together.
Pyaar Dosti Hai never seemed any more apt❤️


Qn 2 : Why is he flirting with her then?

1. He knows the effect he has on women..and when you have a woman you love (regardless of whether she's a friend or whatever) you will if not consciously, very subconsciously try to flirt through your body language.

2. Somewhere also I feel that the gestures we are seeing.. like him going close to her in the kitchen, even though they are real, they are more of an exaggeration of Suman's mind which has Preeta filling it in that he's going to kiss her.. so the scene appears more from her perspective.. if you look at it from Shravan's perspective he's simply being playful & normal like how childhood best friends are.

Qn3: Did Shravan not notice Suman's behaviour?

In the terrace scene, before asking for friendship, Shravan reminded Suman that she's promised him to give him what he wants.. If he is merely asking for friendship, why did he need to emphasise on the promise? Because he's scared.
I think he did notice Suman behaving differently, but I think somewhere he doesn't read too much into it, because he's gone through rejection once & is too scared to go through it again, which is why he chose friendship. Furthermore, its after a decade they've met..they left off as teenagers & now they're adults. So he wants to give it time.


Shravan is not your typical male lead, who goes all out for revenge to get back at the FL & the CVs have time & time again established that. He's a man of character, & his love for her is as pure as white snow. It reminds me of this poem -
"I saw a poor man running madly on the streets on a winter snowing night. His coat was torn, his shoes were holed , his face shone like a brilliant million suns. A strange sparkle in his eyes and even though he was cold, hungry and poor , I saw stars glittering through his soul. Its then that I saw it - he was a man in love."


Please add in your 2 cents.

Cheers,
Samridhi


I LOVE YOU FOR THIS POST SAMMY! LITERALLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID! I don't understand how people don't see the depth behind any of these tracks like it's completely logical and important for this phase to happen! They can't jump straight to love when they haven't even reestablished their long lost friendship yet! AND YES, SHRAVAN IS A MAN OF CHARACTER! HE LOVES HER WITH ALL HIS HEART AND WON'T LOSE HER AT ANY COST. Him reminding her of the promise CLEARLY SHOWED his insecurity! He's scared to be rejected again! He can't lose his best friend whom he loves with all his heart all over again! Which is why he masked his feelings and named this beautiful relationship friendship. How can you not fall for this guy after this? He's so perfect and selfless! I for one love this track. It's so realistic. THANK YOU for this post Sammy! Much needed❤️
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: munnihyderabad


fab views Sam, concur with them 👏

most of it , I will be rewriting from my yday's reply

1. Why did he 'friendzone' her? Does he not love her anymore?

He loves her much more than before, his love is mature, selfless, grounded, deeper, he keeps his love on a much higher pedestal, it's not diluted with attraction or infatuation as adults, not affected by his new confidence, suave, style or success. Even when he was hurt or angry with her during the party times.. he never touched her as in twisting arms or pushing her to the wall or going all out vengeance on her, his anger is restrained, controlled, he never crossed his line ..what does that say .. though he was angry and despair.. deep down he can not hurt her and this is his character, Shravan Malhotra's character 👏

For any guy with such good looks, success, intelligence , style and suave,... confessing would be an easy way out as he is very well aware of the girl's reaction and the effect he has on girl .. But is that love ?? NO, it's more of physical attraction between them, which is quite natural ..Shravan didn't hang on to that as well .. he didn't propose to her even after knowing her reaction .. but for Shravan that is not love and wouldn't want Suman to accept her love based on those moments and he is not aware of her real feelings which are changed, in these 10 years .

Why did he friendzone her ??

"Aisa ho saktha hain ki tumhein kuch pasand ho aur main na banao " after hearing this if Shravan confessed "I love you " Suman would reciprocate that she loves him...but Shravan would only feel that she loves him because "aisa ho sakta hain ki usse jo pasand hain aur woh na karein ?? " and does shravan want this ?? NO...even after knowing she can do anything for him, he still friendzone'd her, which is nothing but once again, his character

He is giving her the space, he is letting her take the decision, he is not forcing his feelings on her.. ... on the front it might look like Shravan took the lead when he sealed that beautiful ehsaas as "Dosti" but what I see is he is letting her take the lead from there...from where they started, their innocent friendship which they left 10 years back . If Suman wants to be friends for life, he would be,..and this is not being mahaan or being sacrificing. it's just that... "aisa nahin ho sakta ki Suman ko jo pasand hain aur Shravan na karein ..." he didn't say that word.. but it's written all over the place... it has been an unsaid protocol between them.. just like him always being the one to wait back then and even now...here also he would wait for her , without tagging their relation with "love" he is giving her the space and lead to do what she likes...

And how thoughtful and beautiful is that..where a guy doesn't force his love on the girl ...

Qn 2 : Why is he flirting with her then?

This flirting this is just a charm and I think he does it subconsciously without any plan or intention .. more like he is used to it... over the years he has developed this amazing skill set of sweeping women off the floor with his charm .. remember the divorce case where the wife agreed instantly when Shravan spoke to her and also Urvashi and all kitty ladies were just awed by his charm .. which comes to him naturally .. as that is what he lacked back then ... Sumo went to prom night back then with some other guy and not nerdy Shravan who lacked the charm .. but later over years he developed that very skill and made that weakness as his strength and using it when needed .. but his intentions behind using charm or flirting are harmless (or kitty ladies or the client ) and when it comes to Sumo there are no intentions... it's just natural him..may be he enjoys watching his charm work on her ..
True that about Preeta's angle Sam...valid point .. it did play a catalyst role in Suman's reactions .

Qn3: Did Shravan not notice Suman's behaviour?

He knows his effects on Suman.. he noticed her behavior, he knows how she feels with his touch and with his closeness.. but did he equate it to love ?? No, because despite knowing his effect on her and her reactions.. he didn't equate it with love ,,,he is still unsure of the feelings of "love" with in Suman.. he can't ask..either.. if she loves him .. as that would be forcing his love on her in the name of fees.. it could come out as her ehsaan chukaana for the fees .. and Suman would reciprocate it either way .. but Shravan doesn't want any condition, majboori, ehsaan, to seal their love , So lets start this journey from where we stopped 10 years back and it's beautiful !! The respect he has for their bond is beyond beautiful .He didn't let her thoughts verge into the "guilt" misunderstanding or pain of 10 years, took off from where it stopped 10 years back.

once again, great discussion ⭐️


OMG You said it so well! Completely agree! Especially the bolded parts! Cvs didn't just give us this scene or track, they put a lot of thought into it, into the characters, into their relationship. And it has only made them more beautiful! Hats off to the cvs for giving us such remarkable writing it's unbelievable!❤️👏

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