Observations... - Page 2

Originally posted by: poppinss

@Danseuse, that is very much possible. Looks like Khosla is the guy with whom Varun signed the contract. Which would mean that if Khosla pulls the string Ramnath would be forced to support varun to keep his family together.

Need to see what Shravan does here...

Originally posted by: indranigupta

Thank you so much for your answers.. but would love to hear more from all😉. Anyways, I shall try to respond individually to each.

@Ria.. yes, you are very right about how the dil versus dimaag connection has played out in all the preceding interactions between Sumo and Shravan whether for economic or family reasons. But, I what I wanted to state was whether what Nanu described his daughter as a girl who used reason and hence was better among all his children was just a coincidence or the CVs wanted to drive home a connection to what played out in day before yesterday's episode of Shravan's dimaag kharaab. On a personal note, these two statements contradicted each other, there was an opposition between the two but I simply cannot pinpoint what was so jarring about it.

Your second point of reasoning that both Nanu and Sumo was correct about their mom-dad was very reasonable. Every father would want his daughter to live in peace and here was Priya who was constantly fighting, struggling with her meagre resources. So quite understandable he would feel it that way. But, why I made mental note of this interaction between Nanu and Sumo was that for the first time, Sumo refused to buy her Nanu's line of reasoning so much so she disagreed in public (I called public because Shravan for all practical purposes is still an outsider to Sumo's family drama). This jarred and I guess, even Shravan's facial expressions revealed it. He was as much surprised. And no wonder he wanted to revisit those memories of Suman and see it from her perspective.

This is one point I am not very sure. Was Shravan her friend or her lawyer? I am sure he did see and comprehended Suman in a new light. There were instances when the real Shravan was emerging but they were few and far. We would have to see his reactions to this episode when he is alone. Yes, it was Sumo's transformation from the image of a bully to a child lost, vulnerable and lonely. But, was Shravan representing us viewers in understanding her plight as a friend, as her lost companion or only as a lawyer who is making mental notes keeping himself detached from all the emotional proceedings.

Again, it might be possible that since no one stayed there hence the house remained the same. But, this was serious maintenance even Sumo's bicycle bell was all new. If this a blooper, ah! well... Television serials still have to travel a long way but if not, Who maintained the house like almost someone wanted Sumo to find it exactlly as it was 18 years ago.

Originally posted by: indranigupta

Hi all,

Yesterday's episode was beautiful, heart-touching and if I may say so cinematic poetry.. but that is what I am not going to discuss. There were few things and elements within the show yesterday which I thought required a discussion:

Heya ... it was really beautifully done epi we had with all the right ingredients

a) When Nanu was explaining about his dead daughter as being the best of all his children, among the various reasons that he listed one was that his daughter, Priya used to think using her head rather her heart. Within the context of the situation, it might be a reasonable way to explain that his daughter was practical, pragmatic, a sensible and mature lady unlike her husband, Neeraj. But, what was most interesting is that in the day before yesterday's episode, we had Shravan mouthing that he listened to his heart and his dimaag was kharaab. And we know as viewers he did make a good decision. So, was this line by nau simply an inocuous one or it has more connotations? Which is right? Dil or dimaag? And what does it say about Shravan's own statement? I don't know why I felt that this statement of Nanu has a larger resonance in the context of Shravan and Sumo's relation.

Dil versus Dimag a debate that will never come to any conclusuon,here what I feel happened was Nanu was just being very judgmental and putting all the blame on one person to make himself feel better and that's what we also do very normal very human and grey.Well never thought that deep it could go down in future will shravan at a point with heart and brains fight

b) I believe we have discussed so much about the walk down memory lane (borrowing Sammy's title phrase) that I believe most of us have not been cognizant of the fact that Sumo did not share Nanu's perception about her dad. If nanu considered his son-in-law as good for nothing, Sumo, on the other hand literally evoked a picture of a very understanding and lovable dad. Again whose perception is correct?

For ever child their parents are the best and in Nanu's case he doesn't seem to like the man so till we get complete story of the man we don't know what is the truth and with his story coming out will he too be in the story soon.

c) Related to this what I found interesting is in the earlier segment when Shravan was trying to figure out Khosla and Sumo's mother relation/equation, he was perceptive of that was being said about Sumo's parents yet I found a vulnerable side to him which wanted to reassure Sumo that all is right. Shravan yesterday was playing an astute lawyer rather than the Shravan we have witnessed before this episode. Neither resentful or one with hurt pride here was a man engaged to understand everyone's perception, readings and misreadings about the past. Good Direction by the CVs👏

Shravan without trying always feels for her and seeing her down he too goes down but he is a great lawyer too he knows his job and we all are sure he will do great with job given a hand.

d)But, when he was traversing the memory lane I would have wanted to see more of Shravan's responses, gestures. Sumo's engagement with the past was brilliantly depicted but SHravan was hardly there. Barring of course, the hug scene and the swing one. I loved the swing one more, there was a feel of companionship that simply could not be missed.

It was her story and add him too much would have maybe not that impactful and him being there as a shadow of hers makes it more compelling.I love the swing sceene too so much more impact it had his hesitation to wanting.

d) The next of course, we have spoken before about the house, its arrangement, layout remaining the same even probably for a period of 15-16 years. If that was a mistake on the part of CVs, well, this is a first and a big blooper. But, what if they wanted to underline something else? To show the passage of time and the role of memory as connected with time, loss, pain one can portray it more so by showing it through various changes or through decay. (Finest examples being Wordsworth's Tintern Abbey, Prelude and Virginia Woolf's To the Lighthouse). Sumo could still have explained to Shravan that this is how she used to live, point out those places which had been changed or destroyed over the years. Why did the makers insist on the house and its content having remained the same?

e) Who bought the house? Was it Khosla or someone else? And did the person who bought the house consciously tried to maintain it as it had been during Sumo's parents' lifetime? And did this some other person sell this house to Khosla in the intervening years? And so Khosla found the papers quite recently (one which would answer Sumo's query as to why he didn't turn up in the last 18 years).

f) Related to this is a blooper (definitely a blooper in this case), as to why Shravan being such a shrewd layer fail to find out beforehand as to who had bought the house in the auction?

g) One of the best scenes yesterday, was how like an investigative lawyer, Shravan was simply gauging, understanding comprehending Sumo's past. It is as if he trusts no one but Sumo in this regard peeling off the layers which has contained, shaped the woman she is.

I would request you all to respond to these observations and to postulate your own😛

Originally posted by: JJKKL

My observations :

1. Not able to believe the way in which Shravan became too friendly with Suman in the 6th April episode. Holding hand and going through the papers together is understandable. But having normal conversations with her and that strange smile he gave her - am not able to get that out of my mind
2. Probably he feels it is his duty to save the house. But he might be back to the "not so friendly" Shravan after that : I felt that earlier, that Shravan thinks its his duty to save the house, but after yesterday's episode I have begun to believe that he will understand why Suman was the way she was when they were in school. He will stop believing that she is a selfish person when he gets to know her better.
3. Dimag vs Dil since this came up twice - there must be some connection
4. I am not very sure whether Suman's Dad is no more. Maybe he kept it as it is. Only a person with attachment can keep the house as it is. Spic and span. Khosla will never do that. Maybe Khosla is just a front. It is the father who wants Nanaji's house back to settle some old scores. This is my Quantico brain talking 😆 On this I completely agree with you. I had this feeling from the scene where Suman looks at her mother's passport. There is something about her Father which is why he is being kept in the dark. The same also applies for Shravan's mother, it feels weird to say this but I believe Suman actually knows the truth about Shravan's mother. Just a hunch.
5. Suman moving away from the swing when Shravan goes near and finally she going to Shravan on her own - maybe symbolic of the future. Agreed, but he follows her and she finally leans on his shoulder. Infact I believe that this is symbolic of the past, when he wanted to be hers, she leaves but then she comes back to him and he leaves by then, but not this time, he will wait for her and be her support.
6. How come the young Suman kept all this childhood issues from her best friend ? Was he the one who was selfish and relying on her all the time for his own problems during school days ? Sumo had formed a shell around herself. She wanted to be seen as a strong person and cared more about her image more than anything else simply because she was just the opposite of that. Its a projection of what we want to believe.
7. All characters are real - which means grey - upto now. So I guess Nanaji is also not completely correct about his daughter and son in law Excellent point ! Thats the beauty of this show. We are getting to see Suman's mother only from the perceptions of others, Maami's , Suman's and Naanu's and each of them is biased. Because for Suman and Naanu their love clouds their perception and for Maami her hatred to a certain extent clouds it. So lets wait and watch, because there will be much more to Priya Tiwari that will be slowly revealed.

Many more points but maybe for next week