Totally confused, please help

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Guys Am I the only one who is totally confused by the character of Suman? As an independent, working woman I can understand her obsession with self respect. I also get it that she was publicly humiliated by Shravan & what hurt her was that it was planned in cold blood unlike when she humiliated him on a whim.

But i still dont understand how she doesnt feel bad even once about the broken friendship & the hurt she caused Shravan. She herself is so emotionally attached to her mom, then how can she not understand Shravan's pain if she really was his friend.

This Blow Hot, Blow cold attitude of hers leaves me cold. I am really confused by her characterization. Even at workplace while they show her workers empathize with her & try to help her, I am yet to see a single instance where she empathizes with her employees. There seems to be a big gaping hole in her characterization. I am able to understand Shravan's actions, behavior, pain but somehow Suman's struggle most of the times seem to be self-inflicted.

Is it just me or does anyone else feel the same. I definitely dont want a Mother India Gopi Vahu types FL but having said that should the CVs not try to make her at least slightly likeable? Actually i find her similar to ASR from IPK. Troubled/confused childhood, orphan, rude to others, bloated sense of ego. But at the end of the day KKG ended up falling in love with ASR. Is EDKV reverse of IPK. A rude, egoistic FL finally falling for a kind ML. Sorry for the comparisons. This is just to bring out the characteristics of Suman.

Please share your thoughts!

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Posted: 9 years ago
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U ARE NOT ALONE I AM TOO.
I am just certainly unable to connect to suman character anymore ,

i find her self respecy mere a bullshit self respect does not mean u lost ur brain too

but this girl OMGGG is seems she has no changed mentaly this is year no maater how much sacrifice anf troubles she had been gone thorugh but the fact is..

SUMO has no changes she is till that badtamiz baddimag and kinda selfishhh and obseesed...Girl😡

Sorry for ranting but i cant understand...what she did with shravan was no less than crime...and she just not thining or not readt to aceept the fact that how much she has caused pain to shravan like seriously

SELF RESPECT ,,SELF RESPECT SELF RESPECT...bullshit yaar

It seems that self respect is her mask under being since the same sumo who is so so IMAGEEE OBSSESED.

Get a life girl

''Kisi ko dil se sorry bolna Apna self -respect khona nahin hota hai'''''''

Juat started to hate Sumo ...dont know but i just cant able to take her any more

Even now she is so so egoistic and impulsive she is just in her own world

MY SELF-RESPECT,,MY PROBLEM MY EGOOO

SUMAN TIWARI u are Has a bhulney ki bimari

Get check urself thoroughly dear...

😡

am not talking about this money matter i am talking aobut sumos self recipocrate and realization...does she ever think of once why shravan goes To that extreme does for ever single moment for god sake!!!!!! ...just sayin woh mera bacpana tha she cant get off with it what she has done with ...shravan ...in the pasrt does she ever...think of it ..naaa instead she is so impulsive ...is better to not talk about...😲😲...

Soory doesnot meant u loose ur self respect ...just one for the moment think miss tiwari...

One sorry...can do majic the word looks simple and pale but it has a masculine effect...

Suman shoul understand the divisions BTW self respect ,EGO and...Impulsiveness!!

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Heya Anu!
I was actually kind of thinking about Suman's character n thought of making a post but let me blabber here itself

She lost her parents at very young age and was brought by extended family.As of now,they don't treat her with much love and affection, I don't think the situation was different back then too.Probably bullying others was her way of dealing with the trauma,not that it was right way but at that age may be she needed a something to vent out!
About her feeling for the hurt she caused ,yes I hope she realizes the extent of her actions.
Baki,I believe that she has her heart in right place .

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Posted: 9 years ago
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No response. Looks like I am the only one who is confused 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hi,
I am not very sure by which name you go by, so Angel is for me as of now.. I m Shalini... I might have an answer to your query... excuse my incoherent thoughts thou...

Suman, by nature has been shown who hides her emotions very well.. as a hot headed person myself, i kind of relate to Suman at times.. Its not that she doesnt care for Shravan.

Heck, Her life's motto is to return the money her mother owed Mama-Mami and to say sorry to her childhood friend. Is she going the right way about it? The answer is No, she isnt.

As a teenager, Suman had already lost her parents. So she must have steeled her heart over being overly emotional. Hence the outbursts come out as Gusse wali ladki... why cant we accept an angry young woman with a soft heart like coconut...we have too many male characters like that. hai na?

U pointed out the canteen girls.. I strongly believe the canteen girls also know ki Sumo ke daatne main hi pyar hain...


Hum gusse wale log hote hi ese hain.. we get angry first n fast...but we love also a lot..but just we cant show that..Call it Emotional Atyachar...

Seriusly excuse my incoherent thoughts.. might come back later to express better.. abhi ke liye blame it on late night crappy movie effect... Sowwy...
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Originally posted by: cindrella255

Heya Anu!

I was actually kind of thinking about Suman's character n thought of making a post but let me blabber here itself

She lost her parents at very young age and was brought by extended family.As of now,they don't treat her with much love and affection, I don't think the situation was different back then too.Probably bullying others was her way of dealing with the trauma,not that it was right way but at that age may be she needed a something to vent out!
About her feeling for the hurt she caused ,yes I hope she realizes the extent of her actions.
Baki,I believe that she has her heart in right place .



I feel this is where the CVs have gone wrong. They have failed to work better on her characterization. We are still unaware of her motives. What does she feel about Shravan. Is it just friendship, is it love or is it just our tendency to cling to happier childhood memories while we struggle with the responsibilities & challenges of adulthood.

This inner monologue of hers is never revealed to us. While we understand the reasoning behind Shravan's actions Suman is still a black box to us viewers. Hence many like me are unable to like her to relate to her. The same happened to me with ASR. I loved Barun but i could never understand or relate to the character of ASR.
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Originally posted by: Angels11



I feel this is where the CVs have gone wrong. They have failed to work better on her characterization. We are still unaware of her motives. What does she feel about Shravan. Is it just friendship, is it love or is it just our tendency to cling to happier childhood memories while we struggle with the responsibilities & challenges of adulthood.

This inner monologue of hers is never revealed to us. While we understand the reasoning behind Shravan's actions Suman is still a black box to us viewers. Hence many like me are unable to like her to relate to her. The same happened to me with ASR. I loved Barun but i could never understand or relate to the character of ASR.


Yeah, I just hope it is rectified soon...Not sure what was shown is old epis what Shravan feels are clearly shown,his hurt,his budding crush,I am yet to see her feelings, hopefully, we get dat too
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: mannu100

U ARE NOT ALONE I AM TOO.

I am just certainly unable to connect to suman character anymore ,

i find her self respecy mere a bullshit self respect does not mean u lost ur brain too

but this girl OMGGG is seems she has no changed mentaly this is year no maater how much sacrifice anf troubles she had been gone thorugh but the fact is..

SUMO has no changes she is till that badtamiz baddimag and kinda selfishhh and obseesed...Girl😡

Sorry for ranting but i cant understand...what she did with shravan was no less than crime...and she just not thining or not readt to aceept the fact that how much she has caused pain to shravan like seriously

SELF RESPECT ,,SELF RESPECT SELF RESPECT...bullshit yaar

It seems that self respect is her mask under being since the same sumo who is so so IMAGEEE OBSSESED.

Get a life girl

''Kisi ko dil se sorry bolna Apna self -respect khona nahin hota hai'''''''

Juat started to hate Sumo ...dont know but i just cant able to take her any more

Even now she is so so egoistic and impulsive she is just in her own world

MY SELF-RESPECT,,MY PROBLEM MY EGOOO

SUMAN TIWARI u are Has a bhulney ki bimari

Get check urself thoroughly dear...

😡

am not talking about this money matter i am talking aobut sumos self recipocrate and realization...does she ever think of once why shravan goes To that extreme does for ever single moment for god sake!!!!!! ...just sayin woh mera bacpana tha she cant get off with it what she has done with ...shravan ...in the pasrt does she ever...think of it ..naaa instead she is so impulsive ...is better to not talk about...😲😲...

Soory doesnot meant u loose ur self respect ...just one for the moment think miss tiwari...

One sorry...can do majic the word looks simple and pale but it has a masculine effect...

Suman shoul understand the divisions BTW self respect ,EGO and...Impulsiveness!!



My theory is that she is the female equivalent of the Angry Young Man of Indian television.

If you check usually you will find characters like Maan from Geet, ASR from IPKKND, Vivian's character (sorry dont even remember the show name & hero's 😆) they are angry, egoistic, insult the FL repeatedly but yet someone does fall in love with them.

I suspect the CVs have thrown us a googly by reversing the gender & given us a less likeable heroine someone whom many may not root for but who will still find love. Shravan's tag line should be Teda hai par mera hai 😆😉
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shalz_123

Hi,

I am not very sure by which name you go by, so Angel is for me as of now.. I m Shalini... I might have an answer to your query... excuse my incoherent thoughts thou...

Suman, by nature has been shown who hides her emotions very well.. as a hot headed person myself, i kind of relate to Suman at times.. Its not that she doesnt care for Shravan.

Heck, Her life's motto is to return the money her mother owed Mama-Mami and to say sorry to her childhood friend. Is she going the right way about it? The answer is No, she isnt.

As a teenager, Suman had already lost her parents. So she must have steeled her heart over being overly emotional. Hence the outbursts come out as Gusse wali ladki... why cant we accept an angry young woman with a soft heart like coconut...we have too many male characters like that. hai na?

U pointed out the canteen girls.. I strongly believe the canteen girls also know ki Sumo ke daatne main hi pyar hain...


Hum gusse wale log hote hi ese hain.. we get angry first n fast...but we love also a lot..but just we cant show that..Call it Emotional Atyachar...

Seriusly excuse my incoherent thoughts.. might come back later to express better.. abhi ke liye blame it on late night crappy movie effect... Sowwy...



My name is Anu 😊 While i understand your reasoning I dont agree to 1 point. Short temper is different from ego. A person who is short tempered need not necessarily be egoistic. I myself get angry very easy & when i am mad I blurt out things which i genuinely regret later. I agree that ppl who get angry quickly are also the ones who are really mushy inside. But the big difference is in your case & my case though we may explode frequently we also melt & cool down quickly as well. We are the 1st ones to realize our mistake & say sorry to the ones we hurt.

But here not once does Suman try to understand Shravan's feelings. Not then in childhood & sadly not now either. Even yesterday while Shravan felt Suman's pain about her mom, Suman still doesnt feel an iota of pain or concern that Shravan lost his mom. This is the insensitivity from her which leaves me cold
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angels11

My name is Anu 😊 While i understand your reasoning I dont agree to 1 point. Short temper is different from ego. A person who is short tempered need not necessarily be egoistic. I myself get angry very easy & when i am mad I blurt out things which i genuinely regret later. I agree that ppl who get angry quickly are also the ones who are really mushy inside. But the big difference is in your case & my case though we may explode frequently we also melt & cool down quickly as well. We are the 1st ones to realize our mistake & say sorry to the ones we hurt.

But here not once does Suman try to understand Shravan's feelings. Not then in childhood & sadly not now either. Even yesterday while Shravan felt Suman's pain about her mom, Suman still doesnt feel an iota of pain or concern that Shravan lost his mom. This is the insensitivity from her which leaves me cold


Hi Anu,

you are right, ego is not as same as anger. Agreed. But till three episodes back, we thought is shravan is being insensitive twrds suman. But then that flashback came and tables turned right... since the entire background story is not yet revealed, so we say, we wait n watch...


What I wanted to say is that she doesnt emote. Whereas you say she has not shown regret over his mom, have they shown anything which shows otherwise also? they have kept that part hidden... Khamoshi ka matlab hamesha haa bhi nahi hota, naa bhi nahi hota...it can be anything...

Agar usko regret nahi hota, wud she wait fr 10 yrs for his return... wud she be happy that " acha hua i ddnt go to America..." nahi naa... what is human! We at times dont understand what exctly we did wrong... I strongly believe even thou she knows shravan left angry, she doesnt know the impact it had on him... That SHravan changed his whole persona just coz of her... I believe Sumo never knew Shravan was nt going to London only n only becoz of her...

I am sure once she knows that, the regret wud be much more than what it is nw...


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