What do they mean - Mj is Kalyug ka ram??

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Posted: 11 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: LeenaRG

See, kaka knws Tara is Mjs wife..so if he's considering the mystery woman as Sita ...he wud nt Hve refered to MJ as ram in the first place...Here hs just meant MJ is a man of high values!
He ws answering to Tara's ques abt why kaka ws supporting MJ?
When it abt expressing someone as a man of high values ..I think Ram wud b appropriate thn Shiv,
Where shiv is knwn as Creator and destroyer! He has gentle & fierce forms!

Just my point, in MJ, we've seen both these forms, the characterization was perfect so why add another angle to it, that too a completely different one? I understand the sentiment behind it, but given that they have already established MJ as Shiv, I don't see the relevance of bringing Ram into the picture. I feel it was unnecessary & doesn't sit well with the story. If we must have Devi Devtas in our shows the least they can do is stick with one. Neel/Mrityunjay, Ram. Who next?😕

PS: I think we've digressed from Anjana's question, so I'll leave the topic here for others to continue with their thoughts.

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Mamta

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Posted: 11 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: dsnair

See, kaka knws Tara is Mjs wife..so if he's considering the mystery woman as Sita ...he wud nt Hve refered to MJ as ram in the first place...Here hs just meant MJ is a man of high values!
He ws answering to Tara's ques abt why kaka ws supporting MJ?
When it abt expressing someone as a man of high values ..I think Ram wud b appropriate thn Shiv,
Where shiv is knwn as Creator and destroyer! He has gentle & fierce forms!

Plus in terms of marital relationships analogy of ram-sita is given ... not that of shiv-parvati...

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Mamta

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: LeenaRG

Just my point, in MJ, we've seen both these forms, the characterization was perfect so why add another angle to it, that too a completely different one? I understand the sentiment behind it, but given that they have already established MJ as Shiv, I don't see the relevance of bringing Ram into the picture. I feel it was unnecessary & doesn't sit well with the story. If we must have Devi Devtas in our shows the least they can do is stick with one. Neel/Mrityunjay, Ram. Who next?😕

PS: I think we've digressed from Anjana's question, so I'll leave the topic here for others to continue with their thoughts.

Leena I think you are confusing both the things... though MJ's character resembles Shiv.. but kaka choose to give analogy of Ram... because she was questioning MJ's chastity at that time... So Kaka indicated that MJ didn't commit that crime & will be true to his wife only.

Edited by misty85 - 11 years ago

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Divya429

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Posted: 11 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: misty85

Plus in terms of marital relationships analogy of ram-sita is given ... not that of shiv-parvati...

Exactly ,I feel comparison to lord Ram will b more reachable to the audience

Also shiv ws nver born as human .

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Mamta

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: dsnair

Exactly ,I feel comparison to lord Ram will b more reachable to the audience
Also shiv ws nver born as human .

Right... but Shiv was married before... though parvati is considered to be sati's avtar... when it come to define best jodi people use only ram & sita... because when ram was asked to marry again to perform rituals, etc he refused.

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Divya429

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: misty85

Right... but Shiv was married before... though parvati is considered to be sati's avtar... when it come to define best jodi people use only ram & sita... because when ram was asked to marry again to perform rituals, etc he refused.

Yes he made a dummy of sita Instaed ...

Also i feel ths ram ref is for the audience ,

As Tara ws questioning on Mjs character and kakas support for his daughters killer

Bt as anjana said people wi'll get worried whthr MJ will abandon Tara 😆

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Opti

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Posted: 11 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: LeenaRG

Just my point, in MJ, we've seen both these forms, the characterization was perfect so why add another angle to it, that too a completely different one? I understand the sentiment behind it, but given that they have already established MJ as Shiv, I don't see the relevance of bringing Ram into the picture. I feel it was unnecessary & doesn't sit well with the story. If we must have Devi Devtas in our shows the least they can do is stick with one. Neel/Mrityunjay, Ram. Who next?😕

PS: I think we've digressed from Anjana's question, so I'll leave the topic here for others to continue with their thoughts.

I think Kaka's reference to MJ being Ram has to do with his giving up his rights for the sake of his brother at the wish of his step mom, much like Ram did for Bharat at the instance of Kaikeyi. Here Mj gave up his freedom and accepted to committing a crime he was innocent of and in which most probably Adi was involved (at least the rape bit).

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hemakalai

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Posted: 11 years ago

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I think he is one women man so he is not the culprit

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sonal

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Posted: 11 years ago

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let me put some words into it..

When you talk about Sri Rama (one of the incarnation of Vishnu/Narayan)...he was a human with highest virtue yet with the power of God,,a symbol of perfection and of cosmic characteristics. spreading the purest form of souls and best example of consciousness and Morality

Sri ram can be identified with infinite positive/sacred attributes like Truthfulness,Honesty,Selfless,Duty Bound,Dedicated and so on...in whole a man signifying the complete existence

Now coming to your points,

1. The one who loved Sita, but let her leave him? he not only Loved her,he fought with ravan to rescue her, he didn't marry another woman after her...since at that time it was all about "Karma & Dharma" as the most important quality rather than love.

PS:..So lets not debate on our ancient holy writings/deties. This proves his Dedication,Fidelity whole heartedly only for his wife Sita

.2. The one who killed demons including Ravana? Yes, he is the same one who defeated the immoral/Adharm/unrighteousness over truth/Dharm

3. The sacrificing son whose word was bond?yes, a man who wouldn't hesitate to obey his mother's order even though inappropriate but just for family/her well being

4. Visnu's avatar? yes,he is the 7th incarnation of Vishnu as stated in Hinduism

5. Someone willing to spend 14 years in exile? Yes ,explained in pt3...for him all that mattered was his mother's order and brother's happiness(bharath to be the king after him)

6. All of the above? yes..i would say

7. Other? in the introduction...he was the best king followed law and religion for state and peoples' well being wouldn't hesitate leaving his own happiness

so if a person is compared with ram ji, that means he is a man of cleanest character and highest positive qualities, always giving priority to Truth and others happiness and sacrificing...like MJ

PS: So Mj is Shiva with positive characteristics of Sri Ram ...IDEAL person👏

PS:now requesting all , to stop going in depth of comparing each character of shekhawat family with Sri ram's family...

because Ideal/perfection only exist in books/stories/reel life...Real life is always with flaw and imperfections...

Edited by sonalp - 11 years ago

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rajla

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Posted: 11 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ
I want to know what kaka means by his statement - Mj is kalyug ka ram. We all know who is Ram, but what aspect of ram did Kaka mean?
1. The one who loved Sita, but let her leave him?

.2. The one who killed demons including Ravana?

3. The sacrificing son whose word was bond?

4. Visnu's avatar?

5. Someone willing to spend 14 years in exile?

6. All of the above?

7. Other?

It has to be all and Ram was the agyakari beta who was willing to go into exile for the order given by his mother because she wanted her son aka Bharat to be crowned the King...So there can be a connection that Nimm is doing this for Adi...but more about it later

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