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Posted: 13 years ago
#91


That only works according to this version of the story, the soap-ified Sagar Puraan interpretation - in the real deal, there was no gaali-galoch by Krit's biwi, no dying of his bachcha, just a private mother-sons moment within their rajmahal... so... no revelation of such a tactic to revive the dead, after all 😳
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Posted: 13 years ago
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So, at first my opinion about Friday's (5 Aug) episode (posting here as that thread is already locked 😔). Truly, it was an unnecessary track 😕, I was unable to find any 'aim' for introducing this storyline 👎🏼... When Krishna revived Punardutt (Rishi Sandipani's son) or Parikshit, the situations were different. They cannot be compared to this event in any way... I would have been happy if there was not Mata Devaki (but ANY other Lady) in the place of the accused one. This particular story somehow relates her to Krishna, and conveys the wrong message that Krishna is doing it for His Mother's sake, whereas any Lady (or Mother) were same for Krishna, so He could have taken any such action for ANY Mother during His stay here on earth, that is what I feel. And another thing is 'changing the order of nature' (or Kaal'). That is also unexpected from Krishna , who Himself is the Lord of 'Kaal'... I don't think this track will include bringing back Devaki's sons, as Krishna haven't referred about it till now, he is only concerned about the son of Kritvarma till now ( as shown in those last scenes). May be we all have the Devaki track later at the 'actual/correct' time 😊, following SB.



Now about the Yamdoot not recognising Krishna- ok, this can happen, we have seen it earlier in RS SK also, when Krishna went to 'Mrityupuri' to bring back Punardutt. It is because of the Maya of the Lord which prevents any being to recognise the 'True Form' of the Lord, as it is always explained in scriptures. So this part was ok, acc to me.




And yes, regarding the poverty in Tom's (Aamod's ) house, what I feel is that yes, all were happy and prosperous in Krishna or Shri Ram's rule, that is an accepted truth, but if we think for a moment about the 'process' of reaching that state- that state would have been achieved in a gradual process, may be that was the case here. It may happen that Krishna or Shri Ram made all their 'praja' happy but 'slowly', that is, by removing the problems one by one, in the place of eliminating all of them at once from their life (by Their Special Power). May be this serial is showing the 'slow process'- how Shri Krishna made each and everyone Happy (and Satisfied) in Dwarika. (Here I am trying to support the Creative's view 😃, provided they show some other aspect of this topic in future, following the storyline).





Rest all the topics has been already discussed here 😊. Enjoyed the 'Saatva Putra' discussion 😊. And yes, agree with Vrish about the absence of many kinsmen in the palace, it is high time for the Creatives at least to introduce all the major characters who will have important roles in later episodes.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: lola610

That only works according to this version of the story, the soap-ified Sagar Puraan interpretation - in the real deal, there was no gaali-galoch by Krit's biwi, no dying of his bachcha, just a private mother-sons moment within their rajmahal... so... no revelation of such a tactic to revive the dead, after all 😳

Last night's episode, seemed to reveal why Krishna couldn't bring others back to life. Previously, one might have questioned the notion of everyone's destiny being written in advance, but in this episode, we found out why he can't.
When Yamaraj appeared b4 Krishna, Krishna ultimately told him that he'd reduce 40 years of his own life in his kundali and give it to Kritavarma's son, so as not to upset the balance of nature. Yamaraj praised him, and left.
Later, Devaki asked him to bring her 6 dead babies back to life. For a change, when Balarama asked Krishna about it, he was forthcoming. Also, when Krishna explained his dilemma to Balarama, the latter was sympathetic - he didn't mindlessly demand that Krishna do what he was told. In tonight's episode, Krishna appears b4 Brahma to discuss his dilemma.
But back to the above - if Krishna had to take 40 years off his own life to give to Kritavarma's son, then he'd have do take x number of years off his own destiny anytime he wants to revive somebody. In this case, Devaki presumably got her babies back for a day, so one would imagine that Krishna would have deducted another 6 days off the balance of his life. But imagine if this kept happening - if everytime any woman lost her son, she'd approach him, and he'd have to keep deducting. At some point, since he had a finite #years in his kundali, he'd be having zero balance and going negative. And if he keeps doing it, then finally, he'll be at that point in time where he no longer exists 😲, and finally goes into negative territory.
In other words, to support any such endless demands, Krishna would have to in the end exist for minus n (-n) years. In other words, not only would he then never have existed, but there would have to be something to support his going into negative terretory. Maybe a Krishna composed of anti-matter or negative mass existing in Gokul, Vrindavan, Mathura and Dwarka for those number of years.
So the law that would be violated if Krishna got people back to life would be elementary laws of arithmetic, not astrology. 😆 Now this, I can perfectly understand 😆 - even the gods, no matter how supreme or powerful, can't make actual physical entities exist for a negative amount of time 🤣
Edited by _Vrish_ - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#94
nice episode

this is first time heard about about this story of devki and krishna decreasing his age to save child

it was different to watch😊

it will different to watch devki taking care of her six babies who will be small like baby

krishna is also human being he have the powers given by gods n he cannot used it against rules of universe but he is doing as he loves his mom.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Great episode!!! Somehow, Krishna in this serial seems to have a lot of underwater adventures 😆 And the special effects, where he has a force-field like shield in front of him that knocked off all the attempts of the demon guards to strike him was just awesome 😎 And I really liked Krishna piling it on by delivering a bhashan once he was done 😆
Okay, I didn't like Bali having a beard - he was a lot more heroic looking. Also, I thought that he lives in Vaikuntha, due to Vamana's boon. Given that Vishnu had blessed him earlier, his comment to Krishna that he was surprised that Krishna was there to see a 'lowlife' lke him was pretty surprising.
It seemed a bit strange to see Krishna's elder brothers bowing to him 😆 But it was cute to see them in baby form back in Dwarka. And it was funny to see adult Krishna, and his baby elder brothers 😆 But I liked his explanation to Devaki about why she had to release them. Let's see what happens tomorrow. 😊
Edited by _Vrish_ - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ Vrish
I liked the episode too. I know there'll be a lot of haters tho.

The special effects were good. I also liked the depiction of the netherworld and the way Krishna entered it...was just awesome.

King Bali was blessed by Vaman avatar to live in Sutal-lok... So the way the portrayed it here was correct... A rarity indeed lol.

The biggest plus for me was Vishal's acting. Boy oh boy oh boy... He's just perfect - his cadence, delivery, facial expressions - really improving. Methinks he's on the way to becoming the best adult Krishna for me. Such a pity it's on a series that will soon be forgotten !

Btw here's a little theory of mine... It's odd that they showing the six sons returning story so early in the epic. I think the reason they did this was so that they could show all the scenes depicting Devki and then get rid of her from the series... So they won't have to pay her !!! The producers are paid by the channel afterall and knowing the kanjoos Imagine ... They probably gave Sagars a low budget . Explains why so many vitals characters havnt made an appearance yet... Cost cutting exercise ! Mark my word... I really think after this episode we'll see very little or none of Vasudev/ Devaki... Of course according to Sagar Puran, they'll be embarking on a long trip... Probably after Devaki gets depressed for Krishna not having granted her wish completely.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Vrish_

Last night's episode, seemed to reveal why Krishna couldn't bring others back to life. Previously, one might have questioned the notion of everyone's destiny being written in advance, but in this episode, we found out why he can't.
When Yamaraj appeared b4 Krishna, Krishna ultimately told him that he'd reduce 40 years of his own life in his kundali and give it to Kritavarma's son, so as not to upset the balance of nature. Yamaraj praised him, and left.
Later, Devaki asked him to bring her 6 dead babies back to life. For a change, when Balarama asked Krishna about it, he was forthcoming. Also, when Krishna explained his dilemma to Balarama, the latter was sympathetic - he didn't mindlessly demand that Krishna do what he was told. In tonight's episode, Krishna appears b4 Brahma to discuss his dilemma.
But back to the above - if Krishna had to take 40 years off his own life to give to Kritavarma's son, then he'd have do take x number of years off his own destiny anytime he wants to revive somebody. In this case, Devaki presumably got her babies back for a day, so one would imagine that Krishna would have deducted another 6 days off the balance of his life. But imagine if this kept happening - if everytime any woman lost her son, she'd approach him, and he'd have to keep deducting. At some point, since he had a finite #years in his kundali, he'd be having zero balance and going negative. And if he keeps doing it, then finally, he'll be at that point in time where he no longer exists 😲, and finally goes into negative territory.
In other words, to support any such endless demands, Krishna would have to in the end exist for minus n (-n) years. In other words, not only would he then never have existed, but there would have to be something to support his going into negative terretory. Maybe a Krishna composed of anti-matter or negative mass existing in Gokul, Vrindavan, Mathura and Dwarka for those number of years.
So the law that would be violated if Krishna got people back to life would be elementary laws of arithmetic, not astrology. 😆 Now this, I can perfectly understand 😆 - even the gods, no matter how supreme or powerful, can't make actual physical entities exist for a negative amount of time 🤣


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Posted: 13 years ago
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well, i find this track quite weird (dun know if it's written that way in vishnu puran or shri krishna's story)..tomorrow Devki will miss her father or grandfather, may be kans 🤣 n request krishna to bring them back from dead..Yashoda will say i want my daughter back...it's impossible, even if krishna has divine powers, i think none of the Gods except Lord Shiva can grant impossible boons...anyone will come up and say "what's impossible for God?" and god will give in to the blackmail 😆 i agree with everybody's points here that they should have shown that Lord did the same for any mother and not to improve his mother's repo...firstly i can't understand the reason for everyone calling devki as unlucky coz she gave birth to 8 sons , she never killed them, kans did...it wasn't devki's fault ,it was destiny...Ganga killed so many of her children , she's a goddess and all of us do her pooja ...itihaas ne usko kuch nahi kaha? 😲😆 God must be having that much power to explain his mother & this world (kritvarma and his wife) not to believe in false superstitions...the way he was explaining yama and yamdoot, why not explain Devki that every person has a definite period of life to live...the track was good but bringing back kritvarma's son's soul back from yama and then his 6 brothers, that was a bit too much to digest..

lastly, the actor playing Devki might be good but her dubbed voice isn't 👎🏼
Edited by _charu_ - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#99
good episode today

i don't know about the story whether its true or not but

loving this story

like the scene where that man said chori karne ki aadat tumhari gayi nahi🤣

nice to watch krsihna's story in dwarka and like to watch krishna as human bieng who is upset, cry, helpless...👏

but when he smile yes the divine look of lord krishna looks perfect.😛

even i was upset when that man killed himself in dwraka where krishna know wht will happen
after convo of balram n krishna clear the matter😛

he knows wht going to be happen n he didn't help him as he knows that if that man is true then he would not have done that,😊
but that curse i can't digest🤢

we cannot compare gokul and mathura story to dwarka city
its totally different.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Ok, I am starting with the Friday's (12/8) ep, (posting here, as that particular WU Thread is locked, and the same story is going on this wk also):-


Firstly, regarding the Poll of that Thread-EVERYBODY is being misrepresented in DBSK, not a single character is left by the creatives in its original shape 😃 (i.e.- the org 'essence' is LOST in ALL the characters). 👎🏼



Really LOVED Krishna's CALM attitude when he came to know about the curse. ⭐️


Loved the way Satrajit's wife came to Krishna for help and the way Krishna's eyes 'reciprocated' her feelings 😍 .. But 'he could not do anything'- I was unable to digest this part 😕. I wanted to watch some more mssg in that scene...



Really Loved this part from Vrish's post
👏- " So the justice that happened here, as per the CVs, is Krishna undergoing the same accusations that Raman was, so that the moral is that the way Krishna handled the situation is the way Raman should have handled it. " - but it should be explained cleraly in the show itself, otherwise audience won't be able to catch the mssg, as the 'curse' thing is intruding too much in each ep 😡.



Now coming to Monday (15/8) Ep:-


Loved this part from Aalochak's post:- "Hated all this superstition prattle, and apshakun obsession (Krishna seems so helplessly caught up in all this mumbo-jumbo ... am actually missing the Krishna of the initial episodes that would turn to the cameras and lecture us on Dharma and Karma)" -- Very rightly said! 👏


@ Aalochak, Regarding your qs in that post- I guess Krishna was not intending to return the Mani to Satarajit, it was the 'wrong deed' of Prasenjit he was referring to in that particular dialogue.



@ Minakshi- have you noticed the 'Disclaimer' 😃 in the beginning of each episode? The creatives think that including the 'Disclaimer' gives them the freedom to show just ANYTHING in the show 😡... That is the reason they are making one mistake after another without even realising the IMAPCT of it on the innocent audience 😡 😔.



And yes, doing a Puja of Shivji so that he can control Ganeshji- is Sooo Weird concept from the Creatives 😲 👎🏼 . Completely agree with this pt by Vrish.





And from yesterday's ep- I really liked the way Krishna convinced ⭐️ Balram to let him go in search of the 'Syamantak Mani' and also his explanation about an 'Ideal King' ⭐️.



The events in the 'ashram' (the monster and all) are really annoying 😕 😔...



Now some general topics:-


Rukmini is becoming more and more Pathetic to watch on screen 😕. It is mainly the mistake of the creatives- they have FAILED to create a character who can be considered as Lakshmi Mata by the audience (Janu is right in all her posts in the different threads of this Forum regarding Rukmini). Her acting skill as well as the characterisation- both are Disappointing! Truly!!!




Now regarding Ramaiya- I am just UNABLE TO TOLERATE this lady on screen. Don't know why they are introducing her in each scene. I preferred Aamod and her mother in comparison to Ramaiya, as that story had some mssg, and that old lady delivered them on screen with complete Devotion/ Faith ⭐️, but here... I don't know what is the purpose of showing her enmity towards Krishna repeatedly... If it continues then I would prefer to watch a 'Realisation' scene for her, where she would realise the God in Krishna, where she should ask for forgiveness for all the wrongs done by her and where she should Surrender herself completely to the lord. The Intensity of the Feeling should be there, otherwise the 'negative element' in her character ( or the 'negative effect' she is having on the storyline) can't be nullified, it is ruining the charm of the show 👎🏼 ... Her Ignorance/ Cynical approach is just IMPOSSIBLE to watch, I find her more irritating than even Kans or Raavan 😡...This is completely my personal opinion 😊.




Yes, including Aamod in the story of Satrajit makes NO SENSE AT ALL. That story is complete, as mentioned by Chemestry and Preet.




I guess the poor performance of the show is complerely due to the Unwise and Inefficient creatives who are ACTUALLY RUINING the show 👎🏼, which had such a huge 'Potential' to be a great show... After all, we have Vishal, probably the Best Person from this generartion to act in the role of Krishna ⭐️, he is being wasted here in most of the scenes... Really sad about that... And yes, Gouri (and Hemant)- are also good on screen. ⭐️




Another point which I have noticed- Somehow I feel only Revathy's eyes has the Complete Faith on Krishna , in each situation, which should be there in the eyes of EVERY character (that is the way I feel about it 😊). About Rukmini- it is already mentioned by the members, and about Balaram- he also seems to forget the 'True Identity' of the Lord in many scenes 😔... So I am Loving Gouri/ Reavathy in all the scenes. ⭐️




Mostly agree with the rest of the contents of all the WU Threads.

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