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Kalapi

@Kalapi

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: dumppurvi
What I don't want is that if she leaves Samrat she ends up with the best friend. If Urmi will have the right value to break free from such an abusive relationship, she needs to show the same values to not marry his best friend, keep the character consistent and not like the typical serials.

Hilly, I understand where u r coming from. The typical extramarital affair!! Even when I saw a thread about the possible future relation between Urmi and Ishaan, I was like 😕 . But then I really was justifying Samrat's actions on some logic or other, giving him the BOD 😆. But, now I am not so sure. Not sure the route CVs plan to take (and not giving much credit to their grey matter), I know that if they r planning to show women empowerment of some sort, they have to show a champion who will be a constant emotional support and source of encouragement, esp. when all of Urmi's family will constantly tell her to accept the status quo. Now, they can show Trisha as one - but, see most family will not necessary take that as a 'good thing'...meaning that 'oh, this girl is too modern and hence not following tradition - a home wrecker, who is not in commitment/compromise etc. etc. Here Ishaan can be more a rock - besides, a Man giving emotional support is different than a woman, esp. if they plan to show that Samrat constantly criticizing and breaking Urmi's confidence and her belief that she is doing the right thing...not sure, I could explain my position well...so, I will take Ishaan - if he really can show the contract. Besides, some one close like Ishaan really will make the plot convincing than some random Tom, Dick or Harry...

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Suresh

@suresh555

Rocker

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Posted: 11 years ago

#22

Cannot be more accurate as you put it. I agree with everything you said.

I wanted to comment too on those zillions of posts about how hot and sexy and cute and goodlooking SamRat is (though I tried in a subtle manner off and on), but felt I'd be attacked as a majority here justify his every action on the name of his hotness and looks. I have often asked how many of these women would be able to tolerate a husband in real life. Come on, even dogs can be cute but then they bite too. Would you keep a mad dog at home taking a risk of it biting the family, just because he is so cute?

I think all the lame support Sam Rat's character is getting is the reason why CVs are adding all this nonsense to his character. The man has insulted all his family members and all her family members. I cannot even imagine Urmi be able to fall in love with this lunatic

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Suresh

@suresh555

Rocker

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: dumppurvi
What I don't want is that if she leaves Samrat she ends up with the best friend. If Urmi will have the right value to break free from such an abusive relationship, she needs to show the same values to not marry his best friend, keep the character consistent and not like the typical serials.

I would normally agree that Urmi not end up with her husband's best friend, but considering Ishaan is everything the samRat is not and can be an ideal husband, son-in-law and jiju that the samRat can never be, why should Urmi and her family be deprived of the happiness they deserve just because Ishaan and the samRat were once friends. Everyone has a right to happiness and Ishaan himself is seeing the true colors and almost done with the friendship. Nothing will make me happier than to see the phycho's big fat ego getting crushed once he loses his wife to his friend 😡

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Dolly-heart

@Dolly-heart

Sparkler

Posted: 11 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: suresh555
Cannot be more accurate as you put it. I agree with everything you said.

I wanted to comment too on those zillions of posts about how hot and sexy and cute and goodlooking SamRat is (though I tried in a subtle manner off and on), but felt I'd be attacked as a majority here justify his every action on the name of his hotness and looks. I have often asked how many of these women would be able to tolerate a husband in real life. Come on, even dogs can be cute but then they bite too. Would you keep a mad dog at home taking a risk of it biting the family, just because he is so cute?

I think all the lame support Sam Rat's character is getting is the reason why CVs are adding all this nonsense to his character. The man has insulted all his family members and all her family members. I cannot even imagine Urmi be able to fall in love with this lunatic

I find that people who think that hot, sexy, good looking is all one needs in a marriage are under a huge let down later in their relationship. These things are superficial and empty .

Compassion, kindness and understanding are too underrated when looking for a life partner.

SamRAT lacks the basic empathy and considers everyone below him and this kind of Attitude is not going to change with love. He needs a good kick in the behind to bring him down to earth.

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Hillylove

@Hillylove

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: suresh555

I would normally agree that Urmi not end up with her husband's best friend, but considering Ishaan is everything the samRat is not and can be an ideal husband, son-in-law and jiju that the samRat can never be, why should Urmi and her family be deprived of the happiness they deserve just because Ishaan and the samRat were once friends. Everyone has a right to happiness and Ishaan himself is seeing the true colors and almost done with the friendship. Nothing will make me happier than to see the phycho's big fat ego getting crushed once he loses his wife to his friend 😡

@Blue😆 I get your point and it makes sense from a revenge point of view. However, I just can't wrap my finger around going from one friend to the other, just not my thing. I would love for him to be a good friend and support system, then she finds a better man somewhere else. I guess, my thoughts are wishful thinking, because is Ishaan has an important role in the show too, and it is more likely that they would pair them, if Urmi leaves Samrat.

In the beginning, I was giving Samrat the benefit of the doubt, and I had liked the actor from before, so I was looking forward to seeing him (even though I am tired of the typical roles) but I was not prepared for this type of behaviour at all.

I am certainly not liking the Character he is playing. However, I think this awareness is necessary, and they should not be afraid to show this in a realistic way. I just want that Urmi does not break and she becomes stronger from this experience and make a wise decision.

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KhatamKahani

@KhatamKahani

Stunner

Posted: 11 years ago

#26

^^ But see, it would be absolutely realistic for her to get the emotional support and come to value and fall in love with the man giving emotional support and being her friend.

I was hesitant too about ishaan/Urmi. I never even saw them as a possibility till that car scene where he takes back from Pag Phera. That scene right there makes it absolutely believable that she would end up finding the 'right guy' in Ishaan.

And still, I was wary because Ishaan was/is Samrat's best friend. But then came Sarmat's actions with Trisha's parents, and later Urmi. Ishaan broke off his friendship with him, and Samrat didn't bother to listen or care. Ishaan is now only friends with him due to other reasons. That friendship is not going to last when he keeps seeing Samrat's behavior and realizing there's no winning with Samrat.

I don't want anything to happen while Urmi is with Samrat or while Ishaan is Samrat's friend. What I mean by that is not that the emotional foundation can't be built. I think emotionally, it will happen though they may not realize it as it's happening.

When Urmi leaves Samrat, Ishaan may support her. And from there too, it will take a good amount of time before one or both realize their feelings, let alone act on them.

P.S. I am two episodes behind. Will attempt to catch up over the weekend.😆 So I would be four episodes behind by then.

Edited by likarsh - 11 years ago

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Faatimah

@starsanjana

Inactive

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#27

i agree with u hence i have even left the forum...i thought this show would show the man changing but no...

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Hillylove

@Hillylove

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#28

The way I see it, if Urmi takes the support of Ishaan it is going backwards, because we want her to be strong and not feel the need to lean on a man to deal with her problems. It is this dependency on a man's approval that made her take so much abuse from Samrat in the first place.

She needs to grow and learn from this experience and be strong on her own feet, she does not need to be saved like a damsel in distress by a man. Women keep saying they want to be independent, yet when in problems Urmi must seek comfort in Ishaan whether after her marriage or not? I don't think that is good for her. If Urmi leaves her marriage, I want to see her going home and healing and drawing strength from within, then when she has healed she can seek a new life partner.

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Suresh

@suresh555

Rocker

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: dumppurvi
@Blue😆 I get your point and it makes sense from a revenge point of view. However, I just can't wrap my finger around going from one friend to the other, just not my thing. I would love for him to be a good friend and support system, then she finds a better man somewhere else. I guess, my thoughts are wishful thinking, because is Ishaan has an important role in the show too, and it is more likely that they would pair them, if Urmi leaves Samrat.
In the beginning, I was giving Samrat the benefit of the doubt, and I had liked the actor from before, so I was looking forward to seeing him (even though I am tired of the typical roles) but I was not prepared for this type of behaviour at all.
I am certainly not liking the Character he is playing. However, I think this awareness is necessary, and they should not be afraid to show this in a realistic way. I just want that Urmi does not break and she becomes stronger from this experience and make a wise decision.

You know, I do agree that its MOSTLY from a revenge point of view in my mind but then its also a fact that both Urmi and Ishaan are super nice people and can be a great life partners for each other (even if SamRat did not ever exist) It would be a shame that two nice people not be together just because of one rotten Rat between them 😃 Once Urmi divorces him and Ishaan throws the friendship in the maha havan, they both would of out of this miserable man's life and mama rat can find a rich cat for the rat (very likely the new cat will make a nice meal out of mama and beta rat and live happily after) 😆

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IntrovertedDame

@IntrovertedDame

Sparkler

+ 6

Posted: 11 years ago

#30

Thanks for posting such an honest response. I agree with you whole-heartedly.

Indian Television has this whole rigmarole of stories centred on a 'bad boy' protagonist and a meek, docile heroine.And to make matters worse, the woman puts up with the abusive behavior and is shown as amending the hero with her 'care'.

Frankly, it is downright disrespectful to victims of abuse , for whom there is NO reprieve at all. The abuser never changes. And what happens is a cycle of violent behavior with occasional bouts of remorse which never last long.

And I am stunned by the reactions of many on this forum. They justify the guy's behavior because he is hot. I am sorry...but that is shallow as it gets. I'd like them to ask a question to themselves...will you put up with your hubby's behavior, if God forbid, he is like this Samrat? Frankly, their reactions make me worry:-(

The show's producer had an earlier show where the protagonist is forced to marry her stalker . And she then falls in love with him.!:-S So I have no hopes from this show as well. It gives me bad vibes, and makes me jittery after a long day of work. Not pleasant material AT ALL. I have stopped watching.And I am thinking of getting married in a couple of years,and I earnestly pray that my husband is not ANYTHING like these misogynist pigs.

And I applaud you for your courage in sharing your experience with us. I cannot beginto imagine how distasteful it must be to you personally. And as you rightly pointed out, it can prove to be a trigger for many in actuality.

Edited by -Amri- - 11 years ago

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