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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: CanadianAddict


I agree that this show has to show the ugliness, I just see it turning in to a love story and that sits uncomfortably with me as someone who was abused, that yea they all turn good so just stick it out, and many people do thinking they will change.

For a lot of people this is a lived reality where getting out literally means not being killed. I just forsee her being like its okay, I love you too, it's my duty as a wife to forgive you 🤢 but def. see what you are saying!

But are the Cvs planning to show a love story??

To me, the need for Urmi that Samrat has is purely sexual. Even the so called 'love' that Urmi feels is also really a sexual attraction. It is so easy at young age, new marriage to camouflaged sexual need as love. Both are more involved and need each other sexual. Once the novelty washes out - then we really can say if both are in love. Also, sometimes the relationship between and abuser and the abused can be very very complicated and the individual fails to see the real nature of that relationship...
Btw, Samrat isn't a friend material either...
Edited by Kalapi - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Great Post. I agree with your post completely.

The reason I am staying with the show is because I truly hope that they have a progressive and a different way of showing that Urmi will handle her husband SamRAT.

We have seen too many times that CV's regress back to showing women have to adjust and their love will change them. Abusive men do not change that easily.

The characters are interesting and the show is moving forward well enough for me to wait and see where it will end up.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree. I have been observing Samrat's behaviour in all episodes and I can really say that he is seriously Abusive and it is a big turn off for me to watch this show. He definitely has the makings of the typical abuser, who abuses his wife, whether verbally, physically or emotionally then has sex with her or buy her gifts.
I felt really disgusted today when he attempted to have sex with Urmi so lovingly after treating her that way earlier on.

In the beginning I was for the Rishta, because I never expected him to stoop so low when they got married, I just thought he was a typical arrogant guy, but this behaviour is way pass that.

I thought Urmi was going to get stronger and stand up to him, whether by letting him know that she will not take this abuse or leaving him, but today I lost that hope after her conversation with Ishaan. She took a complete 180 degree turn after questioning his ways to saying how good he is and was all too happy to be taken on a honeymoon.

Samrat is an abuser, and the show is spoilt for me.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: likarsh

@CanadianAddict, I agree with your points, but I for one think this is a great show and it's showing the reality and and portraying it very much in a realistic manner.

The question is whether they are telling a love story, or a story of a girl who finally takes a stand and moves on from this.

For me, she needs to move on, because anything other than her leaving him and moving on would be validating all the regressive lines spouted both on the show by many of the characters, as well as some of the thinking on how Urmi should change Samrat.

How can one make a show concerning a topic, if they don't show the ugliness of the topic? The question is whether they validate all this ugliness and regressive thinking, or they have an ending telling us such views should not be validated and women shouldn't be expected to stick to such marriages.

As for Urmi, her actions are realistic. See what her grandmother did. Girls go through this every day with their family telling them to adjust and stick it out, and make the marriage work. So again, I say, it's not a problem that they show Urmi still defending Samrat and acting a blind fool. The question is where this all leads. That is what will deem whether or not this show is regressive and misogynist.

P.S. I too am down with the show. But my usage of the term differs to yours.😆 I commend this show and think the makers are doing a great job so far, and look forward to watching it every day.

I am seeing your point, the awareness is good and you never know who it can help. Personally, I would not have been married in the first place, when my cousin told me how he did not care about those guys taunting her in the streets, but I am different and I have been practicing tolerance of others and their decisions more.😆 I can't see this marriage as making any sense at all, it has gone too far now, no woman should stay with such a man. However, from the perspective of awareness, I totally agree that this show is Superb!!!
Edited by dumppurvi - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: dumppurvi

I agree. I have been observing Samrat's behaviour in all episodes and I can really say that he is seriously Abusive and it is a big turn off for me to watch this show. He definitely has the makings of the typical abuser, who abuses his wife, whether verbally, physically or emotionally then has sex with her or buy her gifts.

I felt really disgusted today when he attempted to have sex with Urmi so lovingly after treating her that way earlier on.

In the beginning I was for the Rishta, because I never expected him to stoop so low when they got married, I just thought he was a typical arrogant guy, but this behaviour is way pass that.

I thought Urmi was going to get stronger and stand up to him, whether by letting him know that she will not take this abuse or leaving him, but today I lost that hope after her conversation with Ishaan. She took a complete 180 degree turn after questioning his ways to saying how good he is and was all too happy to be taken on a honeymoon.

Samrat is an abuser, and the show is spoilt for me.

Yup Hilly,but such a reality for many Men, who just want to have sex with their wife...there isn't anything emotional need/dependence in their relationship with them, but simply a physical need to fulfil. This is an actual reality of Men, who can just have sex to satisfy a physical urge. He said so too, keep all that fight outside the bedroom - be my wife (meaning sex partner) on bed...
I really feel bad for Urmi's she is really justifying all her actions - trying hard to keep his image of a loving hubby so that the sex is not just a physical act for her. I hope when she realizes the true face of Samrat - she will have courage to face it.
btw, the actor/actress are doing a fab job - it makes for a very interesting watch. My only hope, CVs really can show women empowerment and how a wife finally stands up to her abuser...btw, the Granny was also so within her character too...
Edited by Kalapi - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kalapi

Yup Hilly,but such a reality for many Men, who just want to have sex with their wife...there isn't anything emotional need/dependence in their relationship with them, but simply a physical need to fulfil. This is an actual reality of Men, who can just have sex to satisfy a physical urge. He said so too, keep all that fight outside the bedroom - be my wife (meaning sex partner) on bed...

I really feel bad for Urmi's she is really justifying all her actions - trying hard to keep his image of a loving hubby so that the sex is not just a physical act for her. I hope when she realizes the true face of Samrat - she will have courage to face it.
btw, the actor/actress are doing a fab job - it makes for a very interesting watch. My only hope, CVs really can show women empowerment and how a wife finally stands up to her abuser...btw, the Granny was also so within her character too...

@blue, Samrat said it earlier too at his office one time to Ishaan. I have only watched the past two weeks without subtitles, so I can't remember exactly what. But when Ishaan said he needs to put effort or work into the marriage, and for his wife--Samrat something like--yeah of course, but the time for that is at night, now I'm working.

And I agree. The actors, the plot, the storyline, they all make for a very interesting watch. And what's being shown is real. I commend the makers and all those involved. Showing that scene is pretty gutsy. I can only hope it all leads to an empowering conclusion and not with the same old love story of the married leads, with the woman "changing" the man and making the marriage work.

Yup, the grandmother sickens me, but she's very much in character. As I said before, I like how the story moves along organically.
Edited by likarsh - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: likarsh

@blue, Samrat said it earlier too at his office one time to Ishaan. I have only watched the past two weeks without subtitles, so I can't remember exactly what. But when Ishaan said he needs to put effort or work into the marriage, and for his wife--Samrat something like--yeah of course, but the time for that is at night, now I'm working.

And I agree. The actors, the plot, the storyline, they all make for a very interesting watch. And what's being shown is real. I commend the makers and all those involved. Showing that scene is pretty gutsy. I can only hope it all leads to an empowering conclusion and not with the same old love story of the married leads, with the woman "changing" the man and making the marriage work.

Yup, the grandmother sickens me, but she's very much in character. As I said before, I like how the story moves along organically.

I haven't watched the serial from the beginning either, just got hooked sometimes after it started. Started loving the Ego that was shown of the male lead and his acting that translated it to a point, I felt like slapping him while clapping his excellent acting and on-screen presence😊. He is doing full justice to the character.

And me too, am bored with the romance that is shown in all serials where the camera, situation and angles makes in so true for the audience that soon there are fights for the 'reel couple forever'😆. That filmy thing was getting on my nerves, but atleast here no one really can say the male lead is a Saint...that was refreshing - I mean, Samrat actually is abusive - no question about it...Now it remains to be seen if the Cvs travels the same path as you say that Male in reformed by the women, which will absolutely kill the serial for me - I mean nature really can't be changed - it can be controlled, not changed. But, maybe Cvs will show some guts (an audience can always hope) 😊, and so a 'negative' kinda romance that is often developed between an abuser and the one abused - it becomes a daily type of 'dose' that they feed each other, a psychological need - let see if Cvs have that much guts to show that type of reality - that it takes a huge huge amount of courage for a girl to break free from such abuser...esp. if she keeps justifying his actions to herself and constantly give him the BOD...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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What I don't want is that if she leaves Samrat she ends up with the best friend. If Urmi will have the right value to break free from such an abusive relationship, she needs to show the same values to not marry his best friend, keep the character consistent and not like the typical serials.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: dumppurvi

What I don't want is that if she leaves Samrat she ends up with the best friend. If Urmi will have the right value to break free from such an abusive relationship, she needs to show the same values to not marry his best friend, keep the character consistent and not like the typical serials.


Normally, I would agree but Ishaan is close to having a falling out with Samrat. In fact, what's keeping him as Samrat's friend is Urmi and Samrat's family. That friendship will/should break first before anything happens with Urmi/Ishaan. If it happens.

Samrat didn't even care and acted out and threw a tantrum with Ishaan as well, so if Ishaan breaks the friendship again, it's on Samrat.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: likarsh


Normally, I would agree but Ishaan is close to having a falling out with Samrat. In fact, what's keeping him as Samrat's friend is Urmi and Samrat's family. That friendship will/should break first before anything happens with Urmi/Ishaan. If it happens.

Samrat didn't even care and acted out and threw a tantrum with Ishaan as well, so if Ishaan breaks the friendship again, it's on Samrat.

I understand what you are saying, but I don't agree from the perspective that they were once friends, so it does not look good.

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