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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#71

Originally posted by: romantisch
RACISM
An apology rendered to those whose sentiments stand hurt, but again this is purely subjective so please allow me to air my views on this.
Agreed that the baby swapping thing has taken this serial to absymal depths, it continues to plunder down into a black hole and shall get absorbed in a vacuum given the devious twists and turns.
Agreed the baby girl is sweet and fair skinned and whatever (teh whole nation is obssessed by fair and lovely), on the other hand the poor little boy is made to look like a village idiot. Is this treatment fair?

Black is black.

White is White

Truth is Truth.

There are good looking fair skinned people.

There are good looking dark skinned people.

For some only fairness matters.

For some only beauty of the skin matters.

For some only beauty of the souls matters.

It is not justified to add negatives to negatives to make a selling point towards some social, moral and ethical teaching and corrections.

DABH Producers already suffered a debacle on the rival channel with their show which had the premise to teach the fair skin loving heroine the meaning of Beauty of Soul by forcing her to see there is beauty behind ugly looking dark-skinned people. The show FAILED and is now OFF the air.

Problem is that not seeming story Plot. Problem was Execution of it. One cannot deny people the right to love beauty. It is their individual aesthetic sense. If half of the world runs around fair color, half run around beauty also, any kind they see. And it is presently the AGE where talking of Dark Skin in derogatotory sense is NO Longer appealing and entertaining on screen to watch. Just on this ground, any idea, any story theme will fail.

Story Writers : Advice to you

Leave Aesthetic judgment to Viewers. Don't force them your views in PREACHING Style.

Show Beauty of Character and Ugliness of character by taking a mix of both fair skinned and dark skinned characters without mocking dark skin, but rather showing the under-currents of Pity towards dark skin, then you would be able to execute new line of thinking for people.

Don't execute story on basic instincts on cavemen type of notions, but execute them from today's vantage of the new generation of kids and older generation of citizens. In my life, I have seen people stoically accepting dark color as more challenging than fair color, fair is more appealing than dark, yet beauty has higher appreciation than color. And between beauty of soul and beauty of skin, soul takes the higher pedestal. And yet, people inspite of knowing all this, go for their sense of aesthetic appeal, as what they want is comfort that is feel good.

Daisa and her DIL have both shown to be fair-skinned and beautiful ladies. We have not seen Daisa's son, but I assume he must be tolerably fair as all people from Northern lands are fair. Its plain anthropology knowledge. Daisa is also shown to be a rich woman with TV and all. So no way KANHA can be that dark-skinned and made to look like Village Bumpkin. THIS IS ANOTHER ABYSMAL LOW of the SERIAL. NOT AT ALL JUSTIFIED to take someone down so that RATHI PARIVAAR is MADE AN IDIOT of their SENTIMENTS LATER ON.

Whatever it is the family is loving Kanha as their kid. But to engage in such rigmarole of emotions is simply convoluted story writing as there are no psycopaths who need to be treated with shock treatments here. We can have only passing references that shall be registered by all. Dark is better than White is NOT a crusade, CRUSADE in this context is about a BOY is NO BETTER than A GIRL, THEY BOTH ARE EQUAL as each are important contribution to Social health.

Edited by 0-SD-0 - 12 years ago

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romantisch

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Posted: 12 years ago

#72

Kudos dear 0-SD-0

You could not have said it better. Thanks a lot for intelectually stimulating the forum.

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#73

Originally posted by: romantisch
Kudos dear 0-SD-0

You could not have said it better. Thanks a lot for intelectually stimulating the forum.

Thank you. Hope you also read the last line of the last post I made. I edited to add.

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 12 years ago

#74

@SD even I agree with you. They need not have shown Misri really beautiful( by the way I love the baby, she looks so so cute) and Kanha impoverished( inspite of that I am liking him too for his large eyes). Instead they could have taken 2 normal babies to drive home the point. Also I was not at all liking SMB funda. There could have been better ways to expose a crime of such magnitude.

CVs should not show repentance is always the best medicine. If that is the case then we need no law enforcement. What is the need for Sandhya to become IPS. She can give bhasan to all and make them repent. If they end BS with repentance then it is a abysmal low as it involves another family and their sentiments too.

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romantisch

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Posted: 12 years ago

#75

Well 0-SD-0, you have summed it up beautifully there and thank you once again for illuminating the forum.

Your post ignited the ruffled feather feeling, have been having of late.

The sad part remains that the serail still soars and the producers keep on adding to the all pervailing viciousness.

Nonsensical things (like this iditic competition alongside the baby thing) rely on cheap (read very cheap gimmicks) to whet the appetites of poor audience.

No one seems to have raised a voice when the poor baby boy was swathed in talcum white (why??????...as an audience are we so insensitive). Time and again his colour keeps on cropping in and now the poor thing seems to have lost it out all now because of the fact that he is not fair.

Whereas the protagonist is showed shifting loyalties towards her biological daughter (not as she was illuminated...a flash and a bolt from the sky that would put in order her all wrecked out brains), as the little kid is fair and lovely and seems to be in harmony with the all pervading skin colour.

This is an assault to the viewers intelligence. Why does no one raise the issue and such episodes ought to have been long past banned.

We all know how this tortuous serial is going to end. A song and a dance of liberating a woman. BUT DID THE END JUSTIFY THE MEANS????

Is the question.

A bloody shame!

Edited by romantisch - 12 years ago

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romantisch

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Posted: 12 years ago

#76

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@SD even I agree with you. They need not have shown Misri really beautiful( by the way I love the baby, she looks so so cute) and Kanha impoverished( inspite of that I am liking him too for his large eyes). Instead they could have taken 2 normal babies to drive home the point. Also I was not at all liking SMB funda. There could have been better ways to expose a crime of such magnitude.

CVs should not show repentance is always the best medicine. If that is the case then we need no law enforcement. What is the need for Sandhya to become IPS. She can give bhasan to all and make them repent. If they end BS with repentance then it is a abysmal low as it involves another family and their sentiments too.

Thanks shruthi just went through some of your comments and very much am in favour of what you posted.

What unfortunately started of on a promising note withered into a shadow like pale version of the original.

Looks like people are in love with the Bard of avon quoting so misquoting with ample abundance all is fare in love and war;

So the mother il law could put the witch in Macbeth to shame. The father in law is (sans tragedy) king Lear. The one with the golden dream once resembled portia but now is a pale comparision of juliette. The son is the prince of Denmark(of course the evil mother is omnipresent. The rest of the cast is composed of clowns that can easily fit in a comedy like mid summers night dream, without an iota of intelligence.

Edited by romantisch - 12 years ago

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#77

Originally posted by: romantisch
Well 0-SD-0, you have summed it up beautifully there and thank you once again for illuminating the forum.
Your post ignited the ruffled feather feeling, have been having of late.

The sad part remains that the serail still soars and the producers keep on adding to the all pervailing viciousness.

Nonsensical things (like this iditic competition alongside the baby thing) rely on cheap (read very cheap gimmicks) to whet the appetites of poor audience.

No one seems to have raised a voice when the poor baby boy was swathed in talcum white (why??????...as an audience are we so insensitive). Time and again his colour keeps on cropping in and now the poor thing seems to have lost it out all now because of the fact that he is not fair.

Whereas the protagonist is showed shifting loyalties towards her biological daughter (not as she was illuminated...a flash and a bolt from the sky that would put in order her all wrecked out brains), as the little kid is fair and lovely and seems to be in harmony with the all pervading skin colour.

This is an assault to the viewers intelligence. Why does no one raise the issue and such episodes ought to have been long past banned.

We all know how this tortuous serial is going to end. A song and a dance of liberating a woman. BUT DID THE END JUSTIFY THE MEANS????

Is the question.

A bloody shame!

This was exactly the feeling I had got by Mid Feb in 2012 and I left the show. As in I refuse to be part of it as me being part is only encouragement to TRP viewers. But surprisingly TRP soared and soared. I still do not watch it on everyday basis as it is still the same pain I receive through other characters.

But what I love is still Sooraj and Sandhya's love story and Sooraj and Sandhya as two evolving people from their own diffidence entering into realm of confidence. That is the only hope that makes me want to know what's happening in the story.

That is what makes me see why people make the show a Hit and I see that everyone just watches Sooraj and Sandhya and rarely give any thought to what the other clowns do.

oh! how I wish for once Sooraj and Sandhya stood up to Justice Served and NOT REMAIN MUTE. Now its 2 years of the show. Its high time they both SHOULD BE CONFIDENT to NOT LET the CLOWNS STUB ILLUMINATION and just not be happy with themselves igniting illumination.

If you remember my previous response to you some days before, I showed how SurYa ignite illumination and how Bhabho & Co stub Illumination and how SurYa's winning is what matters.

But Like I said above and as shrutiarvi said above about not just repentence, even punishment is must, we need SurYa to PROTEST AGAINST the CLOWNS STUBBING ILLUMINATION if they cannot punish those acts. Come on for God;s sake, its two years to the show now...Have some mercy and be fair to Justice Served.

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Miran

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Posted: 12 years ago

#78

Regarding this subject of dark or fair skin, I am extremely impressed with the mythological show on a sister channel where having dark skin doesn't mean you cannot play a god or goddess or other heavenly denizen.

I don't know if it's inappropriate to bring up other shows in this forum but something I saw recently caused me to again realize that the CVs of DABH are not really creative as there are countless issues to take up even if you don't want to take up social issues. In this other show, an older sister-in-law is advising her younger relative to be strong in the face of adversity instead of giving into weakness because that is something that will empower you throughout life. On the other hand, the mother of young woman kept talking about how her daughter had been loved and pampered, and thus could not face difficulties. This woman, playing a temporary but effective negative role, was indirectly highlighting the dangers hazards of spoiling your children who are then not equipped to deal with real life.

This was illustrated sensitively and touchingly, and it was a lesson we could all do with learning and being reminded of from time to time even if we've learned it already. The CVs of DABH seemed to have gone in a perverse direction. Apparently they've promised a twist. They're going to have to twist a heck of a lot to resolve all these immoral and unethical issues!

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romantisch

@romantisch

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Posted: 12 years ago

#79

Thanks Miran,

Do agree with you.

Subtelity is what is missing from the drama as instead of being mellow it is high on melo(dramatic).

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ah99

@ah99

Inactive

Posted: 12 years ago

#80

romantisch]RACISM

An apology rendered to those whose sentiments stand hurt, but again this is purely subjective so please allow me to air my views on this.

Agreed that the baby swapping thing has taken this serial to absymal depths, it continues to plunder down into a black hole and shall get absorbed in a vacuum given the devious twists and turns.

Agreed the baby girl is sweet and fair skinned and whatever (teh whole nation is obssessed by fair and lovely), on the other hand the poor little boy is made to look like a village idiot. Is this treatment fair?

dear romantisch

i have three kids DD- 5 twinDS 3. my husband and i wanted a daughter- if we were destined to have only one child we wanted it to be a girl. she is fair and i am dark. when she was born, i was quite happy that she was fair because all my life i have been at the receiving end due to the color of my skin - sometimes it was sheer evil (a lot of my extended family members actually called me karuppi -meaning 'blackie' in tamil- or sometimes (worse) pity. it was particularly hard when i was a child and a teenager to face this kind of bias in not just society, but within my own family. it wouldn't have mattered to me or my husband if DD were darker either, but i cannot say the same for everyone else in my immediate family.

when my husband met me he fell head over heels in love with me and married me against all odds. the point of discussion in my family was still my color- they were bewildered and failed to understand why my husband chose me when he could have had his pick from the best of the best of girls- since he had all the qualities which according to them made him nothing less than Zeus- he was handsome, fair, went to the best engineering then business schools in india, had a fantastic job and came from a very educated and well to do family. why, then, did he choose to marry me- the 'karuppi' ?

then when my DD was born- even as congratulations started pouring in- a lot of my family members offered double-congrats to me because i not only had a had child, but a fair one at that!!!!

when i was pregnant with my boys, my in-laws (yes, the highly educated family i just mentioned- were curious to know if they were boys or if atleast one of them was a boy. they were really praying for one, i guess. they were elated to know i was going to have two. one of my sons is dark like me and the other one is fair skinned like my husband. my husband and i think a lot of times- the fairer one is cute but the darker one is the real azhagan (handsome one). the rest of our family does not agree.

the BS track irritates me to no end, not only because i find it totally absurd but also because i worry that the writers may let meena go with just a slap on her wrist. i too, like shruti-ji, want her to go to prison for it. but no matter how irritating the track is- it is true to a large extent- so many people really are so caught up with color that they simply cannot see beyond it. i get irritated every time someone (on TV, in films and in real life) say to a pregnant woman- "drink a lot of saffron milk- you will be blessed with a fair child" - what a load of BS.

if the writers had cast a dark kid to play the girl, then the Rathi family (specially Vikram) might not have even given her a second thought. they kept harping about how fair misri was. if they had shown kanha to be fair skinned- meena wouldn't have even glanced at her own kid (yes, her character really is that diabolical).

i think in keeping with the hanuman gali mentality, they writers might have felt this was the most logical way in which they show this track. by doing so i think they were trying to not only eliminate the gender bias, but also wanted to address the stigma associated with dark skinned people.

i am glad that atleast they have shown that the entire rathi family loves kanha regardless of his color and not just because he is a boy. now i just hope and pray that to drive their point, they put meena in prison for it or else i shudder to think how many women might attempt such things just because their in-laws want sons in the family. women who are crazy enough to do such things would be crazy enough to believe that the woman on tv got away and therefore so could they!

btw, i love your posts- not only for their content but also for your eloquence. keep writing and keep illuminating!