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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: anitamalik

@mysterygirl: I would say the TM was triggered off by that "have i stirred a hornets comment" which was quite an instigator if you think about it. It basically undermines the TM's post and what all the other members have said in response to the TM's post and stereotypes them. So quite frankly, I would get ticked off too if you see what I mean. The label happened right there! Other than that, this issue is between you and the TM. Like I said, I respect your POV although I may not agree with it, but I don't find it right to stereotype everyone with the tag. Cause in the end, I got my own opinions about the character, and you have you're own.




I am assuming that you understand what "have I stirred a hornet's nest ?" means.

It means : "have I angered anyone?"

That is politeness ....... my post began with "I BEG to differ" and ended with a proverb for "have I angered anyone" ........ my understanding of the english language has not yet gone that lame that I would not be able to differentiate between any "instigatory" language and politeness

Pls understand that when someone writes on a public forum, its not necessary that they would agree to the general consensus. And if they do not agree to a general consensus, it does not mean that they should not be writing about it. People do have the liberty to voice their opinions on a public forum, as long as it is done politely

And I do not see anything in my post that indicates that I have been impolite....... all my post did was, maintained that I could not completely equate the character with the actor at all levels....... although I did appreciate the actor's performance per se....... there is a difference in that
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Posted: 14 years ago
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awesome posy phatty👏
Jennifer Winget is one of the most amazing actresses I have ever come across. In fact, for me she is the best actress ever. I loved her in KZK...she was my favorite there even though I got to watch too little of KZK or Jenny. I think I was impressed by her in the first sight only...LOL
then she was the main reason I followed Sangam and I was so crazy about it. That was when I realized even more how amazing actress she is. I'd make people watch the show wherever I went even if they don't watch(obviously coz I couldn't miss even a single glimpse) and everybody would be stunned by Jenny's beauty and acting. Even a 5 years old kid would love her. It's possible because of the innocence, beauty, and talents she possess within her. She has that ability to make any age group people like her. She is just amazing...

and now coming to Riddhima, Jenny portrayed the character brilliantly. In fact, I believe Riddhima became a stronger and more important character during her time. Her every body language, ever expression had to make sense and audience would look every bit so carefully. It is such a tough job but she performed so wonderfully that audience would her every single expression she gave and this fact proves what an awesome actress she is!!
ad far as Riddhima's "Innocent" and "stubborn" attitude is concerned, like phatty already explained during the Lonavla track, and all those times, we got to see naughty, cute, adorable, innocent, and stubborn Riddhima even though she had to go through all those difficulties. And it is very understandable that anyone who has gone through what she did would not act stubborn, innocent all the time. She would be stern, tough, hard, rude, and so on. I believe this was the exact point of portraying Riddhima that way: with time, people change, life change. She was changed but still she would be herself in rare occasions. Like she was so innocent and stubborn during the last few episodes of Dill Mill Gayye,

As much as I hated Riddhima during the triangle and so on, I always understood her because I believe anyone who went through all circumstances she did would undergo the change she did and I find it very natural and realistic.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@mysterygurl: I see what you mean, and it's your POV and everyone has a different POV to certain things..you said your POV and they tried to justify their POVs which is my exact POV too...like during lonavla track after armaan's comeback, we saw Riddhima acting all stubborn about not getting helped by armaan yet could see her innocence...if that is not a depiction of innocence and stubborn, then, again that is your POV and you are entitled to it. Personally, I believe by making Riddhima act hard, tough, and stern and act innocent and stubborn only in rare occasions, CVs tried to convey that people change, their nature change due to life and situations, which I do find very natural...when someone isn't happy from the inside of his/her heart, then, he/she might even forget who he/she was before...a new person may born with life's situations and that's the case with Riddhima as well..she would be herself very rarely after all the hard times she went thru and then, again as people cannot forget their agony, she also comes back to reality and again forget her ownself and get back to her new life!!! I hope I do make sense though....
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: mysterygirl123




I am assuming that you understand what "have I stirred a hornet's nest ?" means.

It means : "have I angered anyone?"

That is politeness ....... my post began with "I BEG to differ" and ended with a proverb for "have I angered anyone" ........ my understanding of the english language has not yet gone that lame that I would not be able to differentiate between any "instigatory" language and politeness

Pls understand that when someone writes on a public forum, its not necessary that they would agree to the general consensus. And if they do not agree to a general consensus, it does not mean that they should not be writing about it. People do have the liberty to voice their opinions on a public forum, as long as it is done politely

And I do not see anything in my post that indicates that I have been impolite....... all my post did was, maintained that I could not completely equate the character with the actor at all levels....... although I did appreciate the actor's performance per se....... there is a difference in that



Yes I know what it means-no need to explain it to me...but I would think its more of a " did I irritate the phangirls" type of a remark, but like I said, thats MY POV, and it isn't my issue, so its better u discuss with the TM.

And I've been at forums for a long period of my life, so no need to explain about disagreements/agreements.. I know its a regular routine at a forum, i have experience. Heck thats why forums are made in the first place

Like I said, your opinion is respected by me though I don't agree with it. The rest is the issue with the TM.

SO let's just end this cause I hold nothing against you, i was just merely stating something.Peace!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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PHATTY 😳 You rock !

I dont think there is even one thing written here that I can disagree to.
Jennifer Winget ,beautiful ,talented and above all a gem of a human being .She is one actress that can bring the role she plays to life and literally make you feel what the character feels.
Her work in KZK,Sangam and her skills in dancing on ZNDK all of it made me love her even more ,eveb before she came to DMG which was like a dream come true 😍
Like everyone says Jennifer has got to play the toughest phase of Riddhima's character but she played it to such perfection that even through division in fan groups and an inconsistent story she was the ONLY constant and the one loved by all.
She is one girl who makes the BEST out of the worst and her potrayal of Riddhima makes me proud to be her fan.
She was bashed ,got to hear a lot of flack just because of the character and was surrounded by rumours but she never let it affect her professional or personal life .
She can be a true professional when she has to be and be the best friend anyone can have just the same moment.
IMO Jennifer IS THE BEST Riddhima DMG could have got .No offence to anyone but there is reason enough to feel so.She got the toughest phase of the character and not only did she play it to perfection but also made such a place in everyones heart so much so that she was irreplacable which is precisely she was the longest to play the character and like she had said the last one too.
It wasnt a cake walk to be Riddhima because even after so much hard work there was lot to hear which wasnt encouraging to say the least but she accepted ALL of it and lasted through it like no one did.
We all hated Riddhima at one point of time ,do we realise why ?Because the story was such that the character had to make wrong decisions,look wrong and she played the role to such perfection that the viewers gave that reaction that was expected and what was the aim of the director . She was not the one writing the story she was the one who was doing what was written by others.
And she did it to such perfection that everyday zillion topics would get made just about the character she played,which just shows the sincerity and the perfection with which she played the role !
Jennifer has given a whole new meaning and a new life to the character of Riddhima.The character might have been played by others but now it belongs to her,because She IS Riddhima !
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: KaJenYaianSanju

@mysterygurl: I see what you mean, and it's your POV and everyone has a different POV to certain things..you said your POV and they tried to justify their POVs which is my exact POV too...like during lonavla track after armaan's comeback, we saw Riddhima acting all stubborn about not getting helped by armaan yet could see her innocence...if that is not a depiction of innocence and stubborn, then, again that is your POV and you are entitled to it. Personally, I believe by making Riddhima act hard, tough, and stern and act innocent and stubborn only in rare occasions, CVs tried to convey that people change, their nature change due to life and situations, which I do find very natural...when someone isn't happy from the inside of his/her heart, then, he/she might even forget who he/she was before...a new person may born with life's situations and that's the case with Riddhima as well..she would be herself very rarely after all the hard times she went thru and then, again as people cannot forget their agony, she also comes back to reality and again forget her ownself and get back to her new life!!! I hope I do make sense though....



I agree with you, infact one of the the CV's even said that to us. And I can seee where they were coming from. RIddhima's character went through a lot in life, esp past the shootout and she was shown in a battle between her feelings...her heart vs mind for so long. There is a huge difference between the RIddhima of DMG 1 and 2- and I would say that is majorily because of the stuff life threw at her and the society bound relationships/etc. So in the end, Riddhima's character grew IMO, esp cause in the last episode, you see that once she FINALLY realized that she can't live without her love, she returned back to BEING Basket.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: KaJenYaianSanju

@mysterygurl: I see what you mean, and it's your POV and everyone has a different POV to certain things..you said your POV and they tried to justify their POVs which is my exact POV too...like during lonavla track after armaan's comeback, we saw Riddhima acting all stubborn about not getting helped by armaan yet could see her innocence...if that is not a depiction of innocence and stubborn, then, again that is your POV and you are entitled to it. Personally, I believe by making Riddhima act hard, tough, and stern and act innocent and stubborn only in rare occasions, CVs tried to convey that people change, their nature change due to life and situations, which I do find very natural...when someone isn't happy from the inside of his/her heart, then, he/she might even forget who he/she was before...a new person may born with life's situations and that's the case with Riddhima as well..she would be herself very rarely after all the hard times she went thru and then, again as people cannot forget their agony, she also comes back to reality and again forget her ownself and get back to her new life!!! I hope I do make sense though....




Aah ..... am so relieved to get one post which simply accepts that there certainly can be a difference in opinion and is polite about that . Thanks a lot for this post.

My intention was obviously not to make others see things my way, just to let people know tht this is how I see it.

For me frankly, right from day one, since the day Jen entered, I saw more of a sweet shy traditional girl in her , with a mind of her own ........ but for me there were a few more layers in Riddhima, which I could not see in her . In fact there were a few times when I used to see Sneha in JW (a character I used to love during KZK days)

But I do agree that towards the last few weeks of DMG, for the first time , I could see Riddhima in Jennifer in bits and pieces........ her body language when she was alone in the elevator with Armaan ...... and her discomfort at being so close to a man she was attracted to but could nt get....... that for the first time made me see Riddhima in her
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: mysterygirl123

no problem huh...I didn't think that you were rude...you just had a character analysis..(if it was anything against the actor, you'd have seen worst of me...lol...just kidding😆)so I was just trying to explain the character 's behaviors from my point of view
see that's what CVs tried doing too...during the triangle track, they wanted to make people hate Riddhima and they succeeded too...and then during the last few episodes, they let Riddhima come out of her agony and be herself and this was yet again brilliantly performed by Jenny...like you could clearly see her innocence and stubborn during the auto-dupatta scene, the elevator-dupatta scene...LOL...
this was what CVs planned to so and they succeeded...it is just that they played way too much with Riddhima1s character even though when I think, I undoubtedly understand the way she acted!

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Posted: 14 years ago
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just a question @ mysterygirl, did you not see Riddhima when Jennifer was portraying the role of being jealous by Shilpa Malhotra? I would say that was jealousy from Riddhima's side, seeing another female, other than her, close to her love. So I could quite compare that aspect of the character to Riddhima too.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Yes I know what it means-no need to explain it to me...but I would think its more of a " did I irritate the phangirls" type of a remark, but like I said, thats MY POV, and it isn't my issue, so its better u discuss with the TM.

And I've been at forums for a long period of my life, so no need to explain about disagreements/agreements.. I know its a regular routine at a forum, i have experience. Heck thats why forums are made in the first place

Like I said, your opinion is respected by me though I don't agree with it. The rest is the issue with the TM.

SO let's just end this cause I hold nothing against you, i was just merely stating something.Peace!


well thats your language and interpretation of a proverb, not mine ...... and its so obvious that my post was made in response to the TM's post, like everyone else's ..... so it certainly isnt your issue ...... its you who tried to pull out words from my post, not me

Ok .... goodnight .... me sleepy 🥱 ...... gotta get up early tomorrow and rush for a meeting

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