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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: ananya269

@Manoshono @PerfectStart

Let's not do a Rocky vs. RV because no one is going to win that. Both of them are flawed characters who have done some wrongs in the past. I agree that RP has more fans in this forum, so it may seem like everyone is on his team. Perhaps that's why they are ready to ignore his wrongs.

I personally started watching this serial because of Ansh. But I would never justify him kidnapping Happy and defaming her because I love the actor. He did a fabulous job there, and he looked like a convincing villain those days. I haven't seen RP before this, but he's doing a fabulous job too. So yeah, both the actors are great but their characters are messed up.

But it's okay because they're humans. RV wanted to save his brother, and at one point Rocky was doing it too. He thought Happy was a gold digger and therefore he did all that just to save his Chintu bhai from her. So yeah, both of them are extremely human and doing things for their loved ones. Both of them are very different, Rocky being the loud, raw, aggressive guy with a punjabi tadka. Yet, he's a immature and a good guy. RV, on the other hand is, calm, reserved, calculating and way more mature. He was an orphan and had to take care of his brother so that probably didn't leave any childishness in him. Rocky was the younger brother and the apple of his mother and beeji's eyes, so he never had to grow up.

I'm honestly impressed with how their characters turned out to be. So contrasting for each other, but at the end of the day making the same mistakes. Both of them trying to save their loved ones.

What I don't like is the Shaan Randhawa track. Obviously the CVs are botching up the plot. It all makes zero sense. The next thing I don't like is Happy. She's extremely one dimensional. Keep her continuous weeping aside, I don't see any point of her except being the love interest of these two deeply flawed but dynamic characters. She apparently has no faults either. We have no insights to what she actually wants.

Thanks for being fair! This would be my last say on this particular forum because it makes no sense to me. Let the track unfold as it's only been a week.

Rohit fans can happily take over! Though I am glad to meet Ansh's fan :) I Would rather enjoy Roha and it's fandom outside of this toxic forum.. have nothing to say anymore, but see ya sometime.. maybe some other forum! Bye! :D

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manoshono

@perfectstart: I am not saying you are attacking!! I have seen several post in the past, not particularly pointed out to yours. I only came here to add my thoughts because I thought you left out poor RV when counting how many characters are over doing things :)

Also, few of India forums people are also attacking Ansh because according to them he isn't qualified to fit as an actor and I did see few people enjoying the comments as well. So decent of them to criticize a real life person *claps*. They certainly lack to differentiate between an actor and a character. Doing two opposite characters at a same isn't that easy! Will not going to point them out, but they know who they are.

And ofcourse! Since Roha fandom is increasing, I wish the same for Ranha fandom!

So madam you also enjoy. Kaha suna maaf! :)


last line: no need for that:)
one can always enjoy the healthy criticism.

I don't feel for now that anything is overdone about RV, but can't say about the future,I trust cvs blindly when it comes to buthchering of characters so anything can happen.


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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manoshono

I see only handful of RV, Ranha fans in India forums constantly attacking Rocky and now even others except for RV the mahaan. Your post is totally biased towards just one folk and the rest is obviously not qualified under your premises. Which is totally fine.. it's your opionion and you have all the right to speak your mind, however I want to make one thing explicit from my point of view regarding Shaan Vs Rocky. Indeed, we both can agree that Rocky and Shaan are different characters playing by only one human, so we do expect the difference with their voice modulations, body language and as well as demeanor. Shaan is not Rocky, because he is subtle, poetic and calm while on the other hand, Rocky is raw, aggressive and straightforward.. you can't expect Shaan to change his tone of everything every now and then. But I love how CVs are exploring the traits with going back and forth between Shaan and Rocky in between few scenes and Ansh is doing a fab job there.

RV has the consistent tone as well. I don't find the character any better than Rocky or even Shaan. But what I find in his character is selfishness and greeed for reputation. Moreover, I feel that RV doesn't even care about his brother Ranveer, because all he is realizing is "what if Happy gets to know the truth and leaves him forever? Instead, what he should have done is have the audacity to realize what he is doing is injustice especially looking at Rocky's mother who was desperately trying to give effectionate hug to her son. Please try to put some good list on RV's wrong doings as well. Only then your post will sound fair! :)

And yes! There is no Ranha! :)


Dear, no one is saying anything to Ansh. All we do is curse the CVs. I am a RoHa fan, have always been even when Rocky was a total gunda. I like RV as an individual. I never liked RV with Happy. I know RanHa is not a thing. Because it is one sided and it is very clear RoHa are the leads and endgame.
Point is, we all are frustrated with Shaan track. We were enjoying the show till holi. In fact we wanted RoHa and RV the trio to bond well during those days where RV falling for Happy looks convincing and RoHa for each other. All we cringe about is the stupid leap which rushed up everything we wanted to see.

I just cannot make myself like Shaan. I like lost boy Rocky and have always been vocal about it. His father's constant slamming since childhood had a great role to play his becoming a gunda because there's always a yearning for appreciation and love from Father India which he never received. So the burning pain and pent-up anger led him being a gunda. He was relatable with all his flaws. He was transforming to someone better and we were enjoying that phase.


Now coming to RV. He is a good character. A sane and mature guy. What he did to Rocky is unforgivable. We saw him feeling remorse but we didn't forgive him. In fact I was saying now a days he doesn't even feel guilty, ulta he is trying to put Rocky in jail again to save his own damn reputation!! Now he is fighting for himself only. Nobody is approving it. At the same time it shows he is a flawed character too! No one is supporting RV's actions. Mostly here talk about Rohit the actor. The actor makes it difficult to hate RV despite his crime. He's no usual villain or parallel lead we see on TV every now and then. The character is different. However no one's giving him clean chit because we all remember what he did to Rocky.

About Ansh, I really like him as Rocky. Just not Shaan. He was way more convincing and natural as Rocky. It was like he was playing himself. Shaan is over the top and does not make sense for which it is CVs to be blamed. I feel Ansh isn't comfortable playing Shaan as much as he is as Rocky.


Now a days we are irritated with Happy only, neither Shaan nor RV. Her one dimensional expression making us cringe, even though Jasmin is a wonderful actor but post leap all CVs are doing is make her do weeping and yelling.



That's it dear. I wish you had read all the posts we discussed all this while. Nobody bashed the actor. We all curse the CVs.
Edited by ShadeOfWhite - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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My dear Mihrima,. Anamika, and Ananya,

If all of your posts had been read, this thread would have been considerably shorter!

I wish to make only two points. One, there seem to be double standards used by the CVs, and by many viewers, in reacting to be misdeeds of RV and, no, not Rocky, who is now an accredited bad boy turned good boy, but Shaan.

RV is justly slammed for his crime in framing an innocent (of that particular crime) man in order to save his brother. At one point he tells Grover that he had agonised every day of the last three years over what he had done.

Now, it is his survival instinct that has come to the fore. Survival includes the preservation of his formidable and hard won reputation.

But in last night's precap, he does NOT lament about the prospect of losing his reputation, but ONLY about losing his position in Happy's heart. This has to be noted before making sweeping judgements about RV's motivations. At this point of time, we don't know which is his main motivation.

As for his behaviour towards Anaya, while people do at times fall out of love, the way in which he neglects her and effectually cold shoulders her is , as I wrote earlier, just not decent. She deserves more honesty on his part, even if only as RV's so-called best friend.

Coming to Shaan, his arranging that gas leak in the hotel was, potentially, a very grave crime, for many innocent people could have died because of their weak immune systems. That no one actually died does not in any way diminish his culpability. But the whole has been neatly swept under the carpet, as if it meant nothing. Shaan actually has the gall to blame Happy.for "having made him do it"!!!

Why these double standards? If RV is grey because he committed a crime out of emotional weakness vis a vis his brother, why is all the good he did earlier as a lawyer never weighed in the balance?

On the contrary, Rocky is given abundant credit for his pre-leap reformation, which apparently wipes out all his earlier crimes, and now what he did in the hotel, just on the say so of his lafanga dost, has been simply airbrushed out of existence. Of course the CVs would not have let anyone actually die due to the gas leak, phir unke hero.ka kya hota?

This is what gets my goat as far as the script goes.

Two, as for the performances, each of us is free to have a favourite. Mine is Rohit, and I don't feel obliged to balance that by praising the other two main actors as wonderful. Except perhaps, to some extent, for the pre-leap Rocky. He was a natural.

Others are of course free to invert my take on the troika.😉

Shyamala Aunty,

Originally posted by: ShadeOfWhite


Dear, no one is saying anything to Ansh. All we do is curse the CVs. I am a RoHa fan, have always been even when Rocky was a total gunda. I like RV as an individual. I never liked RV with Happy. I know RanHa is not a thing. Because it is one sided and it is very clear RoHa are the leads and endgame.
Point is, we all are frustrated with Shaan track. We were enjoying the show till holi. In fact we wanted RoHa and RV the trio to bond well during those days where RV falling for Happy looks convincing and RoHa for each other. All we cringe about is the stupid leap which rushed up everything we wanted to see.

I just cannot make myself like Shaan. I like lost boy Rocky and have always been vocal about it. His father's constant slamming since childhood had a great role to play him becoming a gunda because there's always a yearning for appreciation and love from Father India which he never received. So the burning pain and pent-up anger led him being a gunda. He was relatable with all his flaws. He was transforming to someone better and we were enjoying that phase.


Now coming to RV. He is a good character. A sane and mature guy. What he did to Rocky is unforgivable. We saw him feeling remorse but we didn't forgive him. In fact I was saying now a days he doesn't even feel guilty, ulta he is trying to put Rocky in jail again to save his own damn reputation!! He is fighting for himself only. Nobody is approving it. At the same time it shows he is a flawed character too! No one is supporting RV's actions. Mostly here talk about Rohit the actor. The actor makes it difficult to hate RV despite his crime. He's no usual villain or parallel lead we see on TV every now and then. The character is different. However no one's giving him clean chit because we all remember what he did to Rocky.

About Ansh, I really like him as Rocky. Just not Shaan. He was way more convincing and natural as Rocky. It was like he was playing himself. Shaan is over the top and does not make sense for which it is CVs to be blamed. I feel Ansh isn't comfortable playing Shaan as much as he is as Rocky.


Now a days we are irritated with Happy only, neither Shaan nor RV. Her one dimensional expression making us cringe, even though Jasmin is a wonderful actor but post leap CVs made her do only weeping and yelling.



That's it dear. I wish you had read all the posts we discussed all this while. Nobody bashed the actor. We all curse the CVs.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: ShadeOfWhite


Dear, no one is saying anything to Ansh. All we do is curse the CVs. I am a RoHa fan, have always been even when Rocky was a total gunda. I like RV as an individual. I never liked RV with Happy. I know RanHa is not a thing. Because it is one sided and it is very clear RoHa are the leads and endgame.
Point is, we all are frustrated with Shaan track. We were enjoying the show till holi. In fact we wanted RoHa and RV the trio to bond well during those days where RV falling for Happy looks convincing and RoHa for each other. All we cringe about is the stupid leap which rushed up everything we wanted to see.

I just cannot make myself like Shaan. I like lost boy Rocky and have always been vocal about it. His father's constant slamming since childhood had a great role to play him becoming a gunda because there's always a yearning for appreciation and love from Father India which he never received. So the burning pain and pent-up anger led him being a gunda. He was relatable with all his flaws. He was transforming to someone better and we were enjoying that phase.


Now coming to RV. He is a good character. A sane and mature guy. What he did to Rocky is unforgivable. We saw him feeling remorse but we didn't forgive him. In fact I was saying now a days he doesn't even feel guilty, ulta he is trying to put Rocky in jail again to save his own damn reputation!! He is fighting for himself only. Nobody is approving it. At the same time it shows he is a flawed character too! No one is supporting RV's actions. Mostly here talk about Rohit the actor. The actor makes it difficult to hate RV despite his crime. He's no usual villain or parallel lead we see on TV every now and then. The character is different. However no one's giving him clean chit because we all remember what he did to Rocky.

About Ansh, I really like him as Rocky. Just not Shaan. He was way more convincing and natural as Rocky. It was like he was playing himself. Shaan is over the top and does not make sense for which it is CVs to be blamed. I feel Ansh isn't comfortable playing Shaan as much as he is as Rocky.


Now a days we are irritated with Happy only, neither Shaan nor RV. Her one dimensional expression making us cringe, even though Jasmin is a wonderful actor but post leap CVs made her do only weeping and yelling.



That's it dear. I wish you had read all the posts we discussed all this while. Nobody bashed the actor. We all curse the CVs.



There is no issue at all. Like I said, some of the posts I disliked was only because it clearly bashed Ansh for his looks. Other than that, I actually find your posts much consistent and fair among the rest, including Roha fans because they made this forum much better. I stopped peaking into the forum when bashing Rocky became the norm of this forum. I hardly visit here.

I was never in favor for Rocky to go completely clean shaved :( but Ansh isn't doing bad there either. I think we should all give this track some spare time. I am sure it will pick up it's own charm because Ansh is extremely talented portraying multiple layers of shades. But if you haven't seen the new upcoming segment, I must say take a look at it.. I found a good sight of Rocky there. But yes the holi track, including Roha friendship days shall remain the best moments. For me, Rocky would be over anything any day, but I won't deny the fact that Ansh is doing his best to do as Shaan Randhawa. I am sure once the revelation will be out an open, Rocky will be back to being Rocky! :)

Nothing against no one! I hope you all enjoy the time here and I truly hope and pray that Dil Toh Happy hai ji does well on the trp chart!

Had to add, about Happy.. you guys aren't the only one to feel irritated.. most of Roha fans are fed up of her as well. :)
Edited by Manoshono - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: ananya269

@Manoshono @PerfectStart

Let's not do a Rocky vs. RV because no one is going to win that. Both of them are flawed characters who have done some wrongs in the past. I agree that RP has more fans in this forum, so it may seem like everyone is on his team. Perhaps that's why they are ready to ignore his wrongs.

I personally started watching this serial because of Ansh. But I would never justify him kidnapping Happy and defaming her because I love the actor. He did a fabulous job there, and he looked like a convincing villain those days. I haven't seen RP before this, but he's doing a fabulous job too. So yeah, both the actors are great but their characters are messed up.

But it's okay because they're humans. RV wanted to save his brother, and at one point Rocky was doing it too. He thought Happy was a gold digger and therefore he did all that just to save his Chintu bhai from her. So yeah, both of them are extremely human and doing things for their loved ones. Both of them are very different, Rocky being the loud, raw, aggressive guy with a punjabi tadka. Yet, he's a immature and a good guy. RV, on the other hand is, calm, reserved, calculating and way more mature. He was an orphan and had to take care of his brother so that probably didn't leave any childishness in him. Rocky was the younger brother and the apple of his mother and beeji's eyes, so he never had to grow up.

I'm honestly impressed with how their characters turned out to be. So contrasting for each other, but at the end of the day making the same mistakes. Both of them trying to save their loved ones.

What I don't like is the Shaan Randhawa track. Obviously the CVs are botching up the plot. It all makes zero sense. The next thing I don't like is Happy. She's extremely one dimensional. Keep her continuous weeping aside, I don't see any point of her except being the love interest of these two deeply flawed but dynamic characters. She apparently has no faults either. We have no insights to what she actually wants.

Ditto. You just wrote down my heart. 😳
Edited by ShadeOfWhite - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manoshono



There is no issue at all. Like I said, some of the posts I disliked was only because it clearly bashed Ansh for his looks. Other than that, I actually find your posts much consistent and fair among the rest, including Roha fans because they made this forum much better. I stopped peaking into the forum when bashing Rocky became the norm of this forum. I hardly visit here.

I was never in favor for Rocky to go completely clean shaved :( but Ansh isn't doing bad there either. I think we should all give this track some spare time. I am sure it will pick up it's own charm because Ansh is extremely talented portraying multiple layers of shades. But if you haven't seen the new upcoming segment, I must say take a look at it.. I found a good sight of Rocky there. But yes the holi track, including Roha friendship days shall remain the best moments. For me, Rocky would be over anything any day, but I won't deny the fact that Ansh is doing his best to do as Shaan Randhawa. I am sure once the revelation will be out an open, Rocky will be back to being Rocky! :)

Nothing against no one! I hope you all enjoy the time here and I truly hope and pray that Dil Toh Happy hai ji does well on the trp chart!

Had to add, about Happy.. you guys aren't the only one to feel irritated.. most of Roha fans are fed up of her as well. :)


Of course the actors are putting their best in their respective characters, there's no doubt in that. I just miss Rocky. He is vastly different from typical Gul male leads and also he is a relatable guy who has a good heart. I said it before that when Shaan acts like Rocky even it is for a second, I enjoy that 1 second wholeheartedly. Truth be told, clean-shaven look isn't the only thing I have problems with but they making Rocky wear scary lenses also irks me pretty much!! He looks a lot like Damon so the stylists gave him a complete twin look which I dislike. I wish they hadn't give him lenses. Clean-shaven is understood given he is not Rocky but a suave business tycoon.

Since last few days we all have agreed that both the MLs deserve better as their characters have layers and going through development but it is only our female lead Happy who is a complete doom now. Even Sanya is worth watching, displaying multiple expressions in her screen time. We even joke about Ranya pairing. 😆

I can see the dynamics will change to get everything back to normal. Lot is to be revealed.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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By the way, has Ansh worked before or is it his debut show? I never watched him before. I didn't follow Rohit's shows too but he used to come on TV so I saw him. Although Ansh looks very familiar to me but I can't recall where I have seen him. 😕
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Well, from what I could find out, he has not acted in any TV serial before this one.

But he was in the India's Next Superstar reality show in mid-2018. I didn't watch it, so I didn't spot him. But I looked up a delightful Limca ad he did with Kareena Kapoor in.2012.

He is 31, and he seems to have had.a very tough life in what he calls a lower middle class family in Karolbagh in New Delhi. His father died of cancer, and a sister too passed away when he was a young boy, which was when he decided to move to Mumbai to.try his luck..

He has had a rough and prolonged climb to where he is now. I think he will.go.far.

Shyamala Aunty


QUOTE=ShadeOfWhite]By the way, has Ansh worked before or is it his debut show? I never watched him before. I didn't follow Rohit's shows too but he used to come on TV so I saw him. Although Ansh looks very familiar to me but I can't recall where I have seen him. 😕
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Originally posted by: ShadeOfWhite

By the way, has Ansh worked before or is it his debut show? I never watched him before. I didn't follow Rohit's shows too but he used to come on TV so I saw him. Although Ansh looks very familiar to me but I can't recall where I have seen him. 😕



Ansh has performed in the biggest super star talent show I believe. Though I have only been introduced to him after DTHHJ and became an instant fan of his acting and the way he was portraying Rocky.

I do actually want to point few things out to you since you have been kind to my post. And to whoever it may concern since I have not been active in this forum except for the initial days when Rocky was at his peak of being constantly known as the bad guy.

I was completely shocked when I got to know that this was Gul ka show.. because aggressive male leads were her forte but Rocky being overly aggressive was completely out of the boundary completely different from her typical Arnav, Shivaay, Asad, and so on. But I loved the hidden chemistry between Happy and Rocky and I used to curse CVs for making such violent male lead because all I was thinking was how on earth are they going to redeem him for all what he was doing with the leading lady whom he will eventually fall in love. And then, the inevitable taunts and bashing took place where people of the forum has even went one step forward signing petition to abort the show because of its harsh content on women mistreating. And I honestly didn't justify his character because even I didn't like it. That's where I stopped visiting the forum and only watched with a hope that some day Rocky would redeem and get back on the track.

Fortunately, cvs were able to take back the plot that was earlier knitted by them of showing a force marriage and I was extremely happy because I wanted a proper love story of Roha. Kher.. long story short, I loved the development of the character and how Chinto became the reason of why he had to force himself and most importantly realize about all the past things he was doing, especially with Happy. To be fair, neither Happy nor Rocky really knew each other well to start off as a couple and I was fine.

Then, we saw multiple attempts of Rocky trying to make himself right fit for the family. We even got to know many great things he did with people in need in the past. However, even after of so much trails he went through just to make himself decent and responsible, he was still blamed by his father which I still don't like :)

What I am trying to state is that, I agree what Rocky did in the past can never be justified, but give this guy a break because he did the best he can to be able to stand on his feet again and earn the respect that he now deserves. We can't ignore his efforts and genuine concerns that he had for Happy and for the family and how he did his level best to hold himself accountable for the things he was trying to correct from the past. And so when RV came.. yes even he had a bad past, I get that he has struggled to get to where he is right now, but his side of story is probably isn't convincing enough to have me feel for him only because I had not seen his development since the beginning like I have seen Rocky's. And when he conveniently have Rocky sentenced for 10 years with fair remorse on his face had me gave up on his character. I was in a hope that he might divulge the truth by himself out of guilt that he once had so that I can start giving him respect. But since for the last 3 years he has still kept it mum for the sake of his own desires now rather than for his brother, I absolutely find him odd among the rest. Especially for how is he behaving with Anaya. What is over done on his character is basically erasing Anaya out of the picture like she never existed. The more he is trying to keep himself shut, the more he is going to regret it later and we all know that.

What if Ranveer does even bigger crime than this, would he still babysit him and let one more innocent go behind the bars? He has to think of his morals and ethics beyond his family values and what he promised his mother.

Lol! I wrote too much for you to read so sorry about that. But I think I wanted to avoid any further misunderstanding from my side. One simply can't shove their opinion into someone else and I respect that. So people can enjoy the story however they want to as long as it's giving you contentment, it's all cool!

Aur jo hona hai woh toh hona he hai.. to pher kis baat ka rona hai... (definitely the bad version of Shaan style Shayari) :p


Side note: There are already so many ships lined up... Roha, Ranha, Raniya and Ranaya since Anaya-RV are still official/ not official lol! and now RoSa(Rocky and Saniya) Like who would have thought. 😆
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