new promo- surrogacy fails.. - Page 3

Originally posted by: adi_FMT_ct

@Bold-Absolutely Right.

I don't understand one thing why the couple specially Indian don't go for adoption where in our country the demand of adoption of child really exists.

You got it Adi! The prioritization of insemination, just to prevent infidelity or to prevent the adoption of a child is nothing more than to save your own honor with the purchase of another woman's body! The message from DSDT should be a huge signal in the world, how absurd and actually socially dangerous is the surrogacy for all those involved: for the childless couples as well as for the surrogate mother...

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Here is not the speech about infidelity but about surrogacy, about Wish of an married couple to have a own child at any price, no matter what way! But you are right Sudha, let's end this discussion. Anyway, we agree in one point at least: the best way would be to adopt a child, unfortunately there are so many abandoned children in this world...


Even if it's termed as surrogacy, a man who's committed in a marital relationship sleeping with another woman out of his wedlock is infidelity, for me Nataly!
I neither support natural type of surrogacy nor artificial insemination...
Bold@ of course😊We both are on the same footing in this case! Such childless parents should have the maturity to accept that it's their fate and adopt parentless orphan kids!

Originally posted by: SudHaVeN-

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Here is not the speech about infidelity but about surrogacy, about Wish of an married couple to have a own child at any price, no matter what way! But you are right Sudha, let's end this discussion. Anyway, we agree in one point at least: the best way would be to adopt a child, unfortunately there are so many abandoned children in this world...

Even if it's termed as surrogacy, a man who's committed in a marital relationship sleeping with another woman out of his wedlock is infidelity, for me Nataly!
I neither support natural type of surrogacy nor artificial insemination...
Bold@ of course😊We both are on the same footing in this case! Such childless parents should have the maturity to accept that it's their fate and adopt parentless orphan kids!

You know what Sudha, whether we like it or not but this is an endless topic...😆

I understand you completely and I agree with you, it is infidelity... but if you think, infidelity is something acceptable in the west culture, then you are wrong... I've said to my hubby long ago if he ever will be infidel to me, I will send him straight to the hell and I mean it seriously and I'm not alone in west with this attitude... you know that we lost our son, the fruit of our big love, but our love become now even stronger simply because of the fact that my husband is a part of our child and I am a part of my husband's child... and here we are at the crucial point: to be a part of a child... please, let this segment "to be a part of a child" go through your mind: does the surrogacy in meaning of insemination have a sense there? Such an child will be a product of a three persons. For West culture, it's not normal. But look, who pushes Parth and Shorvori into the surrogacy?! Their own Family! Is that normal?! When I've said "no matter how but please in natural way", I meant literally "to be a part of a child", to be a part of an life, to be a part of God's creation. The surrogacy is certainly not the way that leads to that goal. No matter if we watch this show for Sid or for Rashami or for Jasmin or for all of them three, for romance or for daydreaming or for excitement, the surrogacy still remain the issue of the society...

I do understand your views and feelings about this artificiality in insemination surrogacy, Nataly! I can understand this topic isn't gonna end anywhere. But I couldn't stop expressing my disapproval on natural surrogacy process, you know!

I know about your son's demise, and at times your presence here has surprised me a lot. How could you be active here in a social media like before, after such a tragic loss in your life, I used to wonder!. I admire that a lot about you, honestly! My deepest condolences for your son, such a loss can never be forgotten or consoled with mere words.

"Part of your child" term, well that's something I've never given a thought. Don't you think this "Part of your love" or "Part of your child" would be applied only if someone creates a child out of pure love for each other and not due to other compulsions? Even if Parth sleeps with Teni and gets the child through this natural surrogacy, would that intercourse considered to be out of love? Since there's no love between these two people and are merely coerced to sleep due to this timeline they have been given by Indu, this kind of arrangement can also be not considered a product of love. A part of your kid term might be there biologically but not when it comes to the hearts.., moreover Teni isn't just giving her womb for sale but also her whole body now, in this natural surrogacy. If you ask me I'll say the latter is worse and for you maybe the former. But, this is an Indian show. Indian audiences especially women will be considered the judges here as they're the ones who give them their trp numbers. And Indian women would definitely prefer a price for her womb than her whole body. In this way PaRi couple's marital relationship is also gonna be unscathed and so will be Teni's integrity.

Surrogacy natural or artificial, either ways it isn't the best thing to have your child. That's what I conclude at😆 Since this is a show, it's storyline isn't in our hands. If it's for you or me maybe we'd have made PaRi couple adopt a child, but this is a show which is based of surrogacy. And the cvs are taking the story in a path which will be considered right by most of the audience, I guess! It's their story, let them do it their own way, if we don't like it the remotes are in our hands anyways😊

@Sudha... you are right: "part of your child" or "part of your love" is the same or should be always the same... but between those two terms we must not to forget one crucial fact: whether we are believers or not but nothing happens without the reason... my Hubby and me lost our one and only child, Parth and Shorvari are not able to have their own child... no matter how you turn it, it comes always to the one and same conclusion: Karma! So, it depends only on us, if we accept the decision of the supreme power or we fight against and soon or later lose that fight...this doesn't mean that my pain will become less, no, this is not true, the time may heal some loss but such a pain never... this applies to Parth&Shorvori too... in their case, they have two possibility: whether they accept their fate and take it in their own hands or they go the way of the traditional society and provide a lots of troubles for the all of involved...

I'm a believer of Karma myself, Nataly! Of course nothing happens in this world without a reason, which is karma, precisely. If Parth and Shorvari are destined to be this way they should probably accept it and learn to live with the fact that it was their destiny to live the life of a childless couple. You have your own life as an example, and you've learnt to live with it! Most of the people do learn to live that way! But there are certain exceptions who feel they can win over their destiny. That's where this surrogacy issue comes up, which is like a process that defies nature. This may give them a temporary solution & solace but how long it stays with them is again in Karma's hands, I feel!

The creatives are telling a story. They neither oppose surrogacy nor support it. It is upto the viewers how they take it.

Tanvismile@ I read your question to me about why I called it a temporary solution, don't know why you've edited it now. Well the reason i mentioned it that way was, I read in an article on UK based surrogacy, while I was surfing on this issue the other day, that most of the children who are given birth by surrogate mothers fall into an emotional depression mode, coz they tend to feel a complex that they don't belong to their parents biologically, and start considering their parents in the sense of adoptive parents. In this process the kids will eventually distance him/herself from their parents.., which is what I read. So hypothetically speaking the parents happiness of having their kid could be a temporary one...

Originally posted by: SudHaVeN-

Tanvismile@ I read your question to me about why I called it a temporary solution, don't know why you've edited it now. Well the reason i mentioned it that way was, I read in an article on UK based surrogacy, while I was surfing on this issue the other day, that most of the children who are given birth by surrogate mothers fall into an emotional depression mode, coz they tend to feel a complex that they don't belong to their parents biologically, and start considering their parents in the sense of adoptive parents. In this process the kids will eventually distance him/herself from their parents.., which is what I read. So hypothetically speaking the parents happiness of having their kid could be a temporary one...

Originally posted by: tanvismile

Thanks for answering the question. Actually I edited out because I just read about member sharing real story involved on this thread. So I just thought it may be right or I m ignorant enough... So n ways thanks for sharing about that article. But then isn't the same risk is also involved in adoption. I think how the child feel depends on surroundings and parents love.

You're welcome. Well I guess so. Both the cases it can get complex between the parents and the kids. Maybe it's better if the kids doesn't get to know about their actuality...! Bold@Well that's true indeed!