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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: manasi_31


Raghav was a tough strong person outside ... but within he was always very soft, always caring, going out of way to help ... he is breaking down after his family came into picture because his family has been his weakness for all this while ... he is still strong otherwise if you see how he's handling V and his antics and saving his family and Sia from V ... but when it comes to that emotional issue of his lost brother and his strained relationship with his mother he breaks down ... he breaks down infront of Sia because he is in love with her (one thing though that I didnt understand was how why he fell so in love with her ... i hate cvs for conviniently skipping off that) I am not at all saying that CVs arent butchering Raghav ... they have, they are ... infact sadly i never felt they had properly established Raghav in the first place itself ... they are too busy attempting to prove wrong things on the show! But regarding why Raghav has started crying I feel though they should have shown it more subtly but kinda makes sense why he's opening up to her now ... he has made her a part of his life, and thus a part of his pain too ... though am not not liking them make him emotional all the time ... i mean gayatri ke alawa krish is also there in the house ... why doesnt he talk to him nowadays :( lol i miss his scenes with krish thats my major complaint atm 😆

Bold: I agree completely, Manasi
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Oh meri maa itna gussa. On the contrary I'M LOVING SB - and I think for many ppl to understand how Viraj flips the dual Viraj is an excellent idea.
Raghav has been crying a lot and I too want him to stop...
Jahnvi - I so cannot care abt this character.. stammering, shaking shivering - gimme a break! I've had enuff of her..
Some one pls take her into the sunset..
Gayatri loosing her touch.
the only female worth watching in that show is Komal..I adore this character..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: SunShine_A

watching the show is no less than torturing urself now

like seriously
I feel like kicking off the set sometimes🥱

word Ashi...

its like torturing ourselves
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: carisma2

Oh meri maa itna gussa. On the contrary I'M LOVING SB - and I think for many ppl to understand how Viraj flips the dual Viraj is an excellent idea.

Gussa nahi, Cari. Frustration They're losing sight of the message. The purpose.
And as for V, the dual track makes no sense to me. It just seems like they're trying to drag the story and create suspense. Nothing more. I found it more intriguing when V conversed with himself, not his dual image.
Kher. It felt good to vent 😳
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: betty123

word Ashi...

its like torturing ourselves

Well, that does relate to the theme of the show unlike the show itself 😃 Guess the CVs did accomplish something after all.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Elysia


<font size="2">Well, that does relate to the theme of the show unlike the show itself 😃Guess the CVs did accomplish something after all.</font>

yeah they r making viewers suffer DV lolzz
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Elysia

Tonight's feedback is brutally honest. Ye be warned.

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1) Raghav-Gayatri's moment in her bedroom

BEST SCENE! Loved it
2) Gayatri watching the childhood video of her two sons and shutting it off right as they started fighting [symbolic?]

I'm thinking the same...Raghav and Dev may have had a fight regarding something big... 😕

Cons:
1) What are they doing to Viraj Dobriyal?
I have always enjoyed KVB's performance as V. But in recent episodes, I have been just about fed up with the dual image, the schizophrenic touches, the alter ego explanation -- I've got one question: Where the hell is the Viraj Dobriyal who walked around confidently with his skull-stick, conversed with himself [not his dual image], tended to be immensely scary in mannerism, and whose character related to the theme of the show -- which was domestic violence. Because all I see is the same V in dissimilar shirts, or dissimiliar hair style, who's trying desperately to hold my attention -- and failing.
Changing his hair doesn't make him distingushable from the original V. Having him sitting on the roof of a car or locked in the trunk doesn't make him frightening at all -- maybe the director should've considered shooting those scenes at night rather than broad daylight.
The bright, colorful shirts, V's calm mannerism is repetitive and boring to say the least. If the writers don't know where they're headed with the story, at least cease with the constant psychological drama and just show him as he is! Viraj Dobriyal has always been Viraj Dobriyal, rich, charming, cruel, confident, manipulative! This Version 2.0 is more like a Version 0.0 to me. The old Viraj was at least intriguing to watch.

These arguments between these two Virajs is beyond me. The problem is that people began to think that one of the Virajs is actually good when that one is the most dangerous because he's the manipulative one. I'm skipping Viraj's scenes now because they're repetitive! Similar talks happened between these two yesterday...

2) Sia ka mahaan mission and her superpower
Being everywhere at the same time -- that's definitely a superpower. And an annoying one.
Gosh, what the hell is going with her? For a victim of domestic violence, she sure has a lot of energy and consideration for the entire world's woes. I mean, come on! They keep showing her as this self-sacrificing mahaan Indian TV heroine who's the reason that the hero mends his relationship to his mother. Forget the fact that she's so damaged herself that she turns into a nervous train wreck whenever someone says VIRAJ.
However mahaan they were trying to show her throughout the episode, she ended up appearing annoyingly nosy! Lurking outside every room, stalking the Singh family members, listening in on their conversations, etc. etc. etc.
Instead of showing her fighting Raghav's battles, they should've shown her fighting her own, for crying out loud. She must have issues, like a million issues herself. Fear, anger, confusion, hatred, SOMETHING. Worries for her family's safety now that Viraj is going back. Worries for Taashu's safety since she's travelling with him. Worries for herself since Viraj might one day get his memory back and then hunt her down again!
Instead she's prancing around in her pretty clothes and makeup, playing matchmaker between Raghav and his mother! I swear 🤢🤢 This only confirms my suspicions that the writers have no CLUE as to how a victim of domestic violence deals, how she is around people just weeks after escaping the torture -- most of all, they have no clue HOW to shape her personality!
God help me.

I actually cannot decide if this mission of hers is good or not. Yeah she really shouldn't mess with other people's business, but she did make progress by pushing Raghav a bit. Yeah Raghav should make his own decisions and stuff but as we all know, Raghav is very weak when it comes to expressing emotions...maybe he needed someone to support him so he could open up...but I think Siya doing that right now, when she's herself is broken is a bad idea. They should've at least showed her a little bit courageous in handling herself first when Viraj was here, so that she, logically speaking, support Raghav!

I feel like they're rushing everything!!!
3) Raghav crying all the time
Um, out of frigging character. Raghav was sketched as a strong hero with issues, yes. He started out as someone who had trouble expressing himself, was diconnected from people around him, etc. Now they've turned him into an emotional wreck who cries in every scene. I mean, W*F? Butchering his character already? Huh. At least writers take more than two months to do that to a character.
Honestly, I'm tired of him being emotionally weak and needing Sia to make his decisions for him. Please. Take Sia and place her in another room when Raghav is deciding whether or not to talk to his mother, when he's walking to her room, when he's entering her room, and ESPECIALLY when he's having an emotional and PRIVATE conversation with his mother in her room!
Raghav wasn't this expressive to start with. He concealed his pain and tears from the world. They should've shown him deciding to confront his mother privately after the drama in the hall and then upon entering her room, get all nervous and emotional. Most importantly, they should've shown him having that conversation with her ALONE. No Sia to pat his back like a good boy and tell him shabaash!
They have weakened him, and I'm disliking it.
This guy, this emotional guy who needs Sia to push him to do everything [even though just weeks back HE was the one pushing her to do everything], is going to battle the evil that is Viraj Dobriyal? I say good luck to the writers on executing that with conviction.

Yeah I don't like the fact that Raghav is always crying but can we really blame him? So far he's always cried because his mother did or said something that really stung him. I like the rough Raghav but in the end, he's still a regular man who used to be a mama's boy and loves his mother a lot. If his own mother blames him for the death of his own brother...I think it's a good excuse for Raghav to cry.

Regarding Siya pushing him, I think he needed that push. Raghav doesn't know how to express himself whatsoever 😆, and I'm guessing Siya was the first one who's trying to bring mom and son together...Komal and Taashu didn't bother to try it...oh well...Yeah I agree she should mind her own business and fix herself first...but can you really expect logic from an Indian show? 🤣

Can Raghav really face Viraj? I think yes. Raghav crying for his mother doesn't necessarily mean he's weak...he's just emotional. It shows that he's human rather than a bhagvaan. His emotional characteristic shows that he has a pure heart, unlike Viraj who only cried (correct me if I'm wrong) when Jhanvi "died." I think that emotional difference between Raghav and Viraj is what determines the good and the evil. Because so far they both have been smart..and Raghav outsmarted Viraj in stopping Siya from going with him for the first time in Viraj's life.
4) The RaghaVi dream sequences
Yes, they have amazing chemistry. But please. If this was V's nightmare, Raghav would not have been romancing Sia with candlelight dinner and breakfast on bed. He would've been romancing her by dragging her to her feet macho-style and dancing with her the way Viraj did on their second suhaag raat right before she ran away.
The thing is that, according to Viraj, a real man is what he is. The way he acts around Jahnvi. He would've transferred that to Raghav in his nightmare, seeing him do all the things the way Viraj liked to do them with Jahnvi and being furious about someone other than him touching her his way. So, Raghav's approach should've been aggressive, bordering on violent -- not gushy softness and rose petals. Those were always decorative objects in Viraj's established scenes. Right before he'd force himself on Jahnvi.
I wouldn't have liked to see Raghav being a hard lover like Viraj -- but I'm talking about logic in relation to the characters. Those dream sequences made no sense if they were meant to be Viraj's nightmares on Raghav overthrowing him and taking over Jahnvi.

These scenes are beautiful but creeeppyyy I cannot imagine Raghav being THAT romantic, I just CAN'T. That would so not be him. But on the other hand, I think Viraj is making Raghav OVER sweet because he realizes that Jhanvi left him because he was abusing her. So if he dreamed that Raghav was being rough with her, then whats the point in Jhanvi leaving him? So Viraj is making Raghav EXTRA nice and EXTRA romantic thinking the Jhanvi likes those kind of guys, that's why she (supposedly by Viraj) likes Raghav...even though Raghav is the complete opposite of EXTRA nice and EXTRA romantic. So I think that the way they're portraying Raghav in Viraj's mind is okay.
5) No progress
There is no progress in terms of character development. Raghav-Gayatri scenes show progress. Raghav-Krish scenes are always dynamic. But everything else, every other character including Raghav is stuck! V is always mellow, talking to his dual self, plotting plotting plotting in his peach/pink/blue/yellow/red frigging sunshiny shirts. Sia is always drifting left right left right, watering bushes, patting Krish on the head, patting Raghav on the head, telling Komal how hard she'll try to fix the whole world, but oh wait, forget about how she's soul-broken herself due to rape and trauma. Don't even get me started on how I almost gagged when Komal applauded Sia for trying to help rather than tell her to back off their personal matters and stop spying! And Raghav's always crying.
Having watched tonight's episode, I'm disappointed. Frustrated. And I think that what the CVs are doing right now is dragging this story because they have NO clue what they're doing. And while they're dragging, they're also digging their own graves with V's character bloopers, Jahnvi's character bloopers, and now even Raghav's character bloopers.

The only progress I saw is Raghav-Gayatri and Raghav-Siya. For the first time Siya started to understand Raghav and "read his mind" if you will. He wanted to say something but couldn't but she sensed it and asked him "did u say something?" So I thought that was progress between them. SHE REALLY NEEDS TO TELL HIM ABOUT HER BEING JHANVI!!!!!!! 😡 😡 😡

To me, it was almost a repetitive episode...
Whatever. I needed to vent about this and I did. Sorry, guys. No fantastically positive post tonight with any insight. Just straightforward feedback.

Always eager to read your feedbacks 👏👏

Edited by Desi_Girl1991 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thank you for your perspective, Mishti. I guess that my expectations are high when it comes to this show because, from the start, it was unique and almost flawless.
Kher. I'm too depressed right to think positive. The episode ruined my night 🤢
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ Ana: arrey Ana...why are you feeling down? Indian shows are like that, sometimes good and sometimes bad. We had great episodes last week, week before, and before, and before...and this week (today and yesterday...ehhh). So expect one to two bad episode per week 🤣 ...hopefully tomorrow will be better 😊. There are still SO MANY things to unfold in this show, CVs are humans too...so they're going to make mistakes all the time (illogical ones too)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Desi_Girl1991

@ Ana: arrey Ana...why are you feeling down? Indian shows are like that, sometimes good and sometimes bad. We had great episodes last week, week before, and before, and before...and this week (today and yesterday...ehhh). So expect one to two bad episode per week 🤣 ...hopefully tomorrow will be better 😊. There are still SO MANY things to unfold in this show, CVs are humans too...so they're going to make mistakes all the time (illogical ones too)

I don't know, Mishti. I get emotionally attached to characters and it pains me when they are assassinated. I know we've had great episodes, but if you look at the track overall, over the past weeks and how the characters plus story has developed -- you can see how much senseless drama, illogical character bloopers, and dragging there's been. Where, in all this, is Jahnvi's fight for justice and rebuilding herself?

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