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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sia's character disappoints me the most...any person who has suffered domestic violence will not be in a position to even think about others... Sia does nothing except stalking the rooms and giving bhashans to R...


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Posted: 13 years ago
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i agree creative team has messed up the story, they are stretching it like a rubber band.
And why suddenly two Viraaj, wasn't one evil and pshychopath enough?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Episode was just OK , liking double V scenes but they must cut down as its getting over exposed now .jaanvi is more interested in others then her own life and needs V s presence around her to get back to her reality. R is crying too much and its annoying to see sia giving gyan about relationships to him.
In order to run the show for longer they r just draging too much,want a gripping short story which do justice to both Domestic voilence and Mental illness rather then a show which runs for longer period with no real story left and just on air for just sake of it.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi Ana..

Well I had to admit, as much as I love Raghav & as much as I hate to say this- I'm sick.. R's always crying!! Blame the CVs for such pathetic scrit that turns the heroic figure into a child..🥺

And Sia is always the one suggesting him stuff.. Are they trying to show that she's a way stronger.. just by uttering some soothing words to R, she has turned into a strong woman.. CVs are missing the point that she has to overpower V in order to become a strong woman... not consoling R or playing match maker like you said.

V's planning is ugh! No comment on that part.. You have said so much, including what I felt!

One thing I love the most about your analysis is how you find the right words, say exactly what the viewer feels..

Disappointing epi.. but a very lovely analysis like usual...👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i hated the epi...😳😳😳😳

Originally posted by: Elysia

Tonight's feedback is brutally honest. Ye be warned.

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I am immensely disappointed in the writers, the director, and whoever else can be held responsible for the execution of tonight's episode. Toward the end of it, I was left with the following thought: "The creatives have no clue where they're headed. They're lost."
I'll be nice and start with the pros. I'll be honest and admit that, to me, there were only two pros.
1) Raghav-Gayatri's moment in her bedroom
i just loved the moment...i just loved how raghav wants to make that extra effort to get back the relationships they've lost...hc did a beautiful job as raghav poured his heart out to g3...now i want to see wat their relationship was like before...😊
2) Gayatri watching the childhood video of her two sons and shutting it off right as they started fighting [symbolic?]
nopes ely...the way raghav keeps remembering his brother..i don't feel this fighting was symbolic...but was confuses me the most is that nobody talks abt raghav;s father...😕
I apologise in advance if anything in the following feedback seems rude. Not my intention at all. I just have a lot to say and not enough patience to wrap it in wool for sensitive ears.
Cons:
1) What are they doing to Viraj Dobriyal?
I have always enjoyed KVB's performance as V. But in recent episodes, I have been just about fed up with the dual image, the schizophrenic touches, the alter ego explanation -- I've got one question: Where the hell is the Viraj Dobriyal who walked around confidently with his skull-stick, conversed with himself [not his dual image], tended to be immensely scary in mannerism, and whose character related to the theme of the show -- which was domestic violence. Because all I see is the same V in dissimilar shirts, or dissimiliar hair style, who's trying desperately to hold my attention -- and failing.
Changing his hair doesn't make him distingushable from the original V. Having him sitting on the roof of a car or locked in the trunk doesn't make him frightening at all -- maybe the director should've considered shooting those scenes at night rather than broad daylight.
The bright, colorful shirts, V's calm mannerism is repetitive and boring to say the least. If the writers don't know where they're headed with the story, at least cease with the constant psychological drama and just show him as he is! Viraj Dobriyal has always been Viraj Dobriyal, rich, charming, cruel, confident, manipulative! This Version 2.0 is more like a Version 0.0 to me. The old Viraj was at least intriguing to watch.
tell me abt it ely🥱🥱🥱
if one viraj was intolerable...two two viraj's r getting on my nerves...and its not coz of the acting or anything...its the mannerism in which its being shown...as per life oki's head...he suffers from alter ego(thats wat sanjog tweeted)..
i really want to ask sanjog once...does he really have an idea wat alter ego's are???
he is creating a mockery of all sorts of mental diseases in his attempt to justify a rapist and abuser like viraj...
viraj created an impact initially...he had the power to haunt u...but now...all he can do is make u grab ur remote and switch the channel...🥱🥱
showing an alter ego has got nothing to do with the story...
2) Sia ka mahaan mission and her superpower
Being everywhere at the same time -- that's definitely a superpower. And an annoying one.
Gosh, what the hell is going with her? For a victim of domestic violence, she sure has a lot of energy and consideration for the entire world's woes. I mean, come on! They keep showing her as this self-sacrificing mahaan Indian TV heroine who's the reason that the hero mends his relationship to his mother. Forget the fact that she's so damaged herself that she turns into a nervous train wreck whenever someone says VIRAJ.
However mahaan they were trying to show her throughout the episode, she ended up appearing annoyingly nosy! Lurking outside every room, stalking the Singh family members, listening in on their conversations, etc. etc. etc.
Instead of showing her fighting Raghav's battles, they should've shown her fighting her own, for crying out loud. She must have issues, like a million issues herself. Fear, anger, confusion, hatred, SOMETHING. Worries for her family's safety now that Viraj is going back. Worries for Taashu's safety since she's travelling with him. Worries for herself since Viraj might one day get his memory back and then hunt her down again!
Instead she's prancing around in her pretty clothes and makeup, playing matchmaker between Raghav and his mother! I swear 🤢🤢 This only confirms my suspicions that the writers have no CLUE as to how a victim of domestic violence deals, how she is around people just weeks after escaping the torture -- most of all, they have no clue HOW to shape her personality!
God help me.
god help all of us ely...wat are the cvs doing???
seedhi baat...she is just an employee in the house...she has no business to poke her nose in their affairs...these days she is shown poking her nose more than taking care of krishh...i would've appreciated if komal made this effort...it would've made real sense!
3) Raghav crying all the time
Um, out of frigging character. Raghav was sketched as a strong hero with issues, yes. He started out as someone who had trouble expressing himself, was diconnected from people around him, etc. Now they've turned him into an emotional wreck who cries in every scene. I mean, W*F? Butchering his character already? Huh. At least writers take more than two months to do that to a character.
Honestly, I'm tired of him being emotionally weak and needing Sia to make his decisions for him. Please. Take Sia and place her in another room when Raghav is deciding whether or not to talk to his mother, when he's walking to her room, when he's entering her room, and ESPECIALLY when he's having an emotional and PRIVATE conversation with his mother in her room!
Raghav wasn't this expressive to start with. He concealed his pain and tears from the world. They should've shown him deciding to confront his mother privately after the drama in the hall and then upon entering her room, get all nervous and emotional. Most importantly, they should've shown him having that conversation with her ALONE. No Sia to pat his back like a good boy and tell him shabaash!
They have weakened him, and I'm disliking it.
This guy, this emotional guy who needs Sia to push him to do everything [even though just weeks back HE was the one pushing her to do everything], is going to battle the evil that is Viraj Dobriyal? I say good luck to the writers on executing that with conviction.
I WANT MY RAGHAV BACK...THAT SAME ATTITUDE NO NONSENSE MAN
4) The RaghaVi dream sequences
Yes, they have amazing chemistry. But please. If this was V's nightmare, Raghav would not have been romancing Sia with candlelight dinner and breakfast on bed. He would've been romancing her by dragging her to her feet macho-style and dancing with her the way Viraj did on their second suhaag raat right before she ran away.
The thing is that, according to Viraj, a real man is what he is. The way he acts around Jahnvi. He would've transferred that to Raghav in his nightmare, seeing him do all the things the way Viraj liked to do them with Jahnvi and being furious about someone other than him touching her his way. So, Raghav's approach should've been aggressive, bordering on violent -- not gushy softness and rose petals. Those were always decorative objects in Viraj's established scenes. Right before he'd force himself on Jahnvi.
I wouldn't have liked to see Raghav being a hard lover like Viraj -- but I'm talking about logic in relation to the characters. Those dream sequences made no sense if they were meant to be Viraj's nightmares on Raghav overthrowing him and taking over Jahnvi.
nopes ely...viraj is imagining things which he feels might have drawn sioa towards raghav..the love the care etc...but wat i find most confusing is...all these dreams are set in sia's bedroom...not a single one in raghav's outhouse!😕
5) No progress
There is no progress in terms of character development. Raghav-Gayatri scenes show progress. Raghav-Krish scenes are always dynamic. But everything else, every other character including Raghav is stuck! V is always mellow, talking to his dual self, plotting plotting plotting in his peach/pink/blue/yellow/red frigging sunshiny shirts. Sia is always drifting left right left right, watering bushes, patting Krish on the head, patting Raghav on the head, telling Komal how hard she'll try to fix the whole world, but oh wait, forget about how she's soul-broken herself due to rape and trauma. Don't even get me started on how I almost gagged when Komal applauded Sia for trying to help rather than tell her to back off their personal matters and stop spying! And Raghav's always crying.
Having watched tonight's episode, I'm disappointed. Frustrated. And I think that what the CVs are doing right now is dragging this story because they have NO clue what they're doing. And while they're dragging, they're also digging their own graves with V's character bloopers, Jahnvi's character bloopers, and now even Raghav's character bloopers.
Whatever. I needed to vent about this and I did. Sorry, guys. No fantastically positive post tonight with any insight. Just straightforward feedback.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: mysticgoryfilms

I'm actually more confused at what happened at Gangadhar's house. Did Sundar see Jhanvi's photo or not? And what did Gangadhar say after he saw Viraj's picture? Just that he's Viraj Dobriyal and how rich he is? 😕

I liked the show better when suspense wasn't such a predominating factor -_-
For the sake of common sense and my sanity, I hope that it wasn't all Gangadhar told him.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: SunShine_A


They are showing so many different aspects every new day but they don't take us to the level to understand any of his new shade, which is creating all the problems for me

and whatever they showed in initial months they themselves butchered it in past 1 month

Bold: Word, Ashi. What bothers me as well is that the process toward reaching that level of understanding was skipped entirely. We just dived right into Raghav-Sia emotional convos, for instance.
Plus, they've butchered large and important parts of Raghav's character in the past episodes.
Edited by Elysia - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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What Sundar's done in Manali is too little too late.

Did he see Jahnavi's photo? If he did then there's no response from Sundar as to knowing the existence of a look-alike (since Jahnavi's supposed to be dead according to a neighbor, and surely Gangadhar would have said the same). May be we'll get to know today.

Butchering of characters: Viraj has already been put into the grinder briefly and broken up into pieces. Raghav is cut in half. Jahnavi has been ground to a pulp.

I keep thinking the CVs have some idea of where they are going. They come up with a flash of brilliance now and then. Then, all too soon, they dish out this mish-mash of a narrative to keep the show going.

But, this is the only TV soap I have watched, and will continue watching for the sake of all the hard work done by the 3 main (butchered) characters.

I like the following:

1. The sexy Viraj and his schizophrenic characterizations, only so that he becomes a purely fictional character, something like a work of art.
2. The very good-looking Raghav, with subtle nuances of characterization, although often made to appear a little too cute.

This is not all.

I'll keep posting my two cents' worth as and when I can.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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But eh if they don't show this how will they show her as mahan?

What I don't understand is why it's necessary to show her as mahaan? Why isn't it okay for her to be a little selfish, put herself before others? Concentrate on herself rather than other people's problems?
She is a victim of domestic violence [physical and emotional] and marital rape. This should have damaged her to an extent that she cannot make herself connect with other peope or focus on their problems.
To be honest, Sia hiding her identity from the Singhs wouldn't have bothered me if the CVs had simply allowed her to be selfish in order to protect herself. Not caring for other people's problems. Only thinking of how she could remain hidden from V. I would've loved her for it, and if the truth was ever revealed and she was blamed -- I would've sympathized with her. But because they try to play the mahaan card while at the same time making her selfish...
Edited by Elysia - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -prime-

Episode was just OK , liking double V scenes but they must cut down as its getting over exposed now .

Prime, it's verging on glorification 😕

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