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Posted: 13 years ago
#31
Jaanvi has every right to be happy in life so no problem to whoever she choose to be with.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I don't understand people who think Viraj and Jahnvi should be together.This is not aimed at you MsLuscious, because you have already clarified your point.This is simply aimed at those in general who think that most of Viraj's actions are due to his mental illness; and once magically cured, he and Janhvi should be together.

There are men who rape and torture and murder their wives all the time; and even the most rabid of Viraj apologists wouldn't dare justify them. Just because one sticks (a completely inaccurate, mind you) psychiatric diagnosis on the perpetrator, it's all justifiable now? There's nothing that suggests that Viraj thought he was haunted by a devil who threatened his loved ones' safety if Viraj didn't obey his commands. Nothing that suggests that Viraj didn't really want to do what he was doing. Viraj does not suffer from hallucinations or delusions; quite the opposite; he is highly aware of himself; his actions and their consequences; he knows what effect his actions have on others; and his surroundings.

He was shown as fully lucid when he dragged Jahnvi into their bedroom and belted and brutally raped her because some other man dared to touch her; he hosed her down in Himachal's winter because she touched his dog; forced her to do things she didn't want to; gave her electric shocks; beat her with sticks; threatened to chop of her fingers because she wanted a servant; kept her in captivity; isolated her from her family and the world; burned her feet because she tried escape. Not to mention he threw Jahnvi's Grandmother off the roof, paralysing her; tortured and (possibly) killed his security guard whose family was threatened on gun-point to keep quiet about it; murdered his adoptive parents; put his little step-sister in a mental institution; put innocent people in jail; kept his biological Mother in horrid situations and what else am I forgetting? He kept Jahnvi and those all around him in a constant state of fear and wants it to be always like that.

You cannot change these things about Viraj without completely destroying his character; you can't have your cake and eat it too.
Edited by Araniya - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#33
I dont know if its a triangle or what but i dont think she'll end up with viraj
even if they are popular as a couple and we love their chemistry still i dont think so coz they together will mean justifing domestic voilence
in the show balika vadhu, anandi and jagya were popular as a couple bt still they are seperated now coz again they together would mean justifing child marraige...
Now if viraj turns positive and is cured i think he himself will realise dat he iznt the right choice 4 jhanvi and will let her go!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#34

n0 u r ryt i wud never go back if i was janvi and i m also big fan of harshad but i was talking abt the show track might be like this Oh ok. It's just the way you said that Viraj and Jhanvi are destined to be together it sounded like you wanted them to be together.
n0 i wud never want her to go bck to da pers0n whu treats her like an animal i said that because i th0ught that after wachng indian serials fr0m 6 years its just my guess bt honestly i want sia n raghav to be da lead
I know that this is Indian show. But this show is different. They are trying to set the example in society and also trying to spread awareness not to tolerate any kind of violence and if CVs will stick to this then there is no way Jhanvi will go back to Viraj.
Is she goes back to Viraj then there will not be any point showing all these and asking people to react and consult the Agency's who help in this type of viloence. Why they had a special phone line for this and all these bell bajao.
Even person who went through this type of violence will not go back to the person. Yes he has every rights to be treated but go back to him is big NO.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: Araniya

I don't understand people who think Viraj and Jahnvi should be together.This is not aimed at you MsLuscious, because you have already clarified your point.This is simply aimed at those in general who think that most of Viraj's actions are due to his mental illness; and once magically cured, he and Janhvi should be together.

There are men who rape and torture and murder their wives all the time; and even the most rabid of Viraj apologists wouldn't dare justify them. Just because one sticks (a completely inaccurate, mind you) psychiatric diagnosis on the perpetrator, it's all justifiable now? There's nothing that suggests that Viraj thought he was haunted by a devil who threatened his loved ones' safety if Viraj didn't obey his commands. Nothing that suggests that Viraj didn't really want to do what he was doing. Viraj does not suffer from hallucinations or delusions; quite the opposite; he is highly aware of himself; his actions and their consequences; he knows what effect his actions have on others; and his surroundings.

He was shown as fully lucid when he dragged Jahnvi into their bedroom and belted and brutally raped her because some other man dared to touch her; he hosed her down in Himachal's winter because she touched his dog; forced her to do things she didn't want to; gave her electric shocks; beat her with sticks; threatened to chop of her fingers because she wanted a servant; kept her in captivity; isolated her from her family and the world; burned her feet because she tried escape. Not to mention he threw Jahnvi's Grandmother off the roof, paralysing her; tortured and (possibly) killed his security guard whose family was threatened on gun-point to keep quiet about it; murdered his adoptive parents; put his little step-sister in a mental institution; put innocent people in jail; kept his biological Mother in horrid situations and what else am I forgetting? He kept Jahnvi and those all around him in a constant state of fear and wants it to be always like that.

You cannot change these things about Viraj without completely destroying his character; you can't have your cake and eat it too.

Gah, WORD, Araniya 👏
Regardless of whatever reasons for Viraj's character, you cannot change what he's done and you cannot justify it. He's sick to the point of no return.
I've only watched till episode 23 so far [and am sneak-peeking into the Raghav-Jhanvi moments], but I find nothing redeemable about Viraj's character. Even if he should try to make amends, there's no guarantee that tomorrow something won't trigger his monster again. Considering everything that he's done, I do not feel that it would be right to show that he's given any kind of relief.
Domestic violence is one thing. But rape and murder is another thing.
I have to agree with you, Araniya, I cannot understand people who want Viraj and Jhanvi to be together in the wake of everything that he's done and knowing what kind of twisted, conscienceless person he is. No matter the cause or medical term for his utterly psychotic behaviour - there's nothing anyone can say or do to justify it, and it wouldn't be right to show that Jhanvi returns to him.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: Krrish87_sweet

@ TM: Agreed and Yes they (RajVi) are gona be together...if things can go right in right direction...no further comments from me.

Simple and straight forward opinion without offencing anyone: "Extramarital affairs don't work in indian tellyvision" atleast they don't work for me..whatever the excuses are..i am very firm in my stand.. if Viraaj has to end up with Priya and Raghav has to end up Jhanvi/Siya..Show is already OVER for me..



No offence to you, but over the time I've spent on this forum I've seen that you are a Viraj supporter and I have nothing against that. But just out of curiosity if you had a husband like Viraj who beat you almost all the time, and burnt you and threatened to kill your family, would you still go back to him if he said he had become a better person? Wouldn't the old memories haunt you, and wouldn't you always think that he might change back to the way he was? Or say one of your family members had such a husband, wouldn't you tell them to never go back to him?

These kinds of things happen in real life, in one case I read about the man used to beat the woman so often that she was terrified of even leaving her house. After her husband died, she remained the same way, and could never recover properly, as the memories would haunt her. No human being should put up with such things, be it a woman, man, or child.

If I was in Jhanvi's position I would do the same thing and let him think I was dead.
Plus if she ends up being with Raghav she would not be having an affair, since she already told Viraj that she is leaving him and will never come back to him. It's a called a separation, which means she's free to be with someone else, and she can file a case to get a divorce or annulment.


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Posted: 13 years ago
#37
huh what a joke that jhanvi is betraying a monster like viraaj?
are some people serious enough?
after today's episode again it is proved what and how much disgusting viraaj is.
So it was exactly a right step by jhanvi to leave him, and it will be a tight slap on his face when jhanvi herself will announce it to the whole world that she hates him and wants to live with Raghav.
in an alliance if one of the members is unhappy and leaves the relationship then autoatically it is named as separation and a divorce can be easily achieved.
No mattter if viraaj redeems or not, geeta will not be back, jhanvi's kid won't be back and nor he can force jhanvi to love him.

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Posted: 13 years ago
#38

Thank y0u all for sharing ur views cant reply u all bt l0vd ur all c0mments:)
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Posted: 13 years ago
#39

I just read this whole thread again; great posts and interesting discussion by everyone. 😊 I just couldn't help but reply to this post:

Originally posted by: Krrish87_sweet

<snip> as far as his abuse are concern..he can be treated and lead a normal life..<snip>



There is no mental disorder that causes and/or wills one to be abusive. People who are abusive are so, because they want to be. They can easily stop it, but they don't. No treatment can help those who don't want to stop. And as mentioned before Viraj is and was completely conscious and aware of his actions (in Hindi as we say, "poore hosh-o-awaaz mein"); not to mention he has a functioning emotional nature and empathy (you need to have empathy to know your actions can cause others pain or happiness; you also need it to be sadistic). He abuses and tortures people because he wills and wants to; he is also shown on the show as feeling better or happy after abusing and torturing people. Also as far as I am aware, the only diagnosis Viraj was given on the show was Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder (I stopped following the show shortly after this happened; so if I am wrong, please correct me). Violence and sadism are NOT symptoms of OCPD; and Viraj doesn't seem to share most normal symptoms of OCPD so the diagnosis doesn't even make sense. In fact the whole representation of OCPD in this serial would be so laughable if only it were not so sad. (I hope to do a post about it once )

Even if one were to buy your point about there being some magical mental illness that causes you to be horrifically abusive around the very people you love the most. The need to abuse and/or torture would just be like a itch he needs to scratch, not a hijacking of his mind; he can still simply choose not abuse or torture people, even if he wants to do so. And if he can't help himself, why doesn't he lock himself in his cupboard or leave Jhanvi and those he loves/loved? If he loves Jhanvi so much, why does he willingly torture her, then justify it and never once regret it?

As for treatment... It seems that many users here who are pro Viraj and Jhanvi genuinely like Viraj as a character. So I don't understand they want to change him till he's not himself anymore. Let me explain my point: "curing" Viraj of being abusive would rid him of the very crux of his character which we're shown he's been like all his life (not to mention destroy the very point of the show), and also rid personality traits which support or exacerbate his being that way: extreme sadism; ruthlessness; paranoia; lack of impulse control; anti-social; a God-complex; and a need to be feared, etc. Okay, so these traits are now gone.. so now what's left of Viraj? "Curing" Viraj would mean ridding Viraj of (nearly) all his given traits. It would not be character evolution, but character destruction. Also, to want Viraj and Jhanvi to be together, but yet not want Viraj, as who he is, to be with Jhanvi seems contradictory. It would be simply Karanvir Bohra playing another, completely different character on Dil se di dua.. Saubhagyati Bhava who incidentally also has the name "Viraj Dobriyal." Even if treated and reunited, I can't see a perpetually terrified Jhanvi and a perpetually unsatisfied Viraj to ever be happy together. All of which leads me to ask: do people who support the couple of Viraj and Jhanvi, in actuality simply support the pairing of Karanvir Bohra and Sriti Jha? Or is it the mentality of "once wedded; forever married, no matter what"? I genuinely want to know why people support this relationship.

I am just glad that there are people who disagree with RaJvi; a month or so back, I used to be a religious watcher of this serial and a lurker on this forum; when it seemed that everyone was pro-RaJvi, it left me a bit shaken, actually. So relieved to see others who too reject it.

Edited by Araniya - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Araniya

All of which leads me to ask: do people who support the couple of Viraj and Jhanvi, in actuality simply support the pairing of Karanvir Bohra and Sriti Jha? Or is it the mentality of "once wedded; forever married, no matter what"? I genuinely want to know why people support this relationship.

I am just glad that there are people who disagree with RaJvi; a month or so back, I used to be a religious watcher of this serial and a lurker on this forum; when it seemed that everyone was pro-RaJvi, it left me a bit shaken, actually. So relieved to see others who too reject it.

Read all of your posts...all of them excellent I must say...👍🏼
I'd like to know the answer to the above in bold too?
I can understand fandom for a particular jodi...the actor KB is beyond fabulous in his role...but the latter idea of staying with an abuser because we're married...is just not something I can swallow...🤢

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