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Posted: 13 years ago
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Mohan looked at the alliance with Kastur as a business deal...she was a means to several ends. Also, he thought of her as an uneducated doormat who would do as she was told, mind house & nothing else...She was someone he would have to put up with to get what he wants...there was no thought given to his obligations to her; in fact in his mind, he didn't have any obligations to her. To be honest, I was not surprised as to how he handled Kastur and her alliance..who are his role models? A father who can't think for himself: a hen-pecked son & husband, a chauvinistic, conservative🤬 for a grandfather, and a mother who deceived his grandfather by secretly sending her son abroad, and spews venom at the drop of a hat. But even with such characters in his life, he has been civil to Kastur, showing moments of caring & concern for her...

To the point abt loving her: I mentioned this in a few other threads; I thought his response during the game was a very valid one...even if you think you love someone, can you realistically call it 'sacha pyaar'? Is it just abt the attraction or something else? Even in the room, the reason his tone changed at Kastur was because she provoked him...and his response was in keeping with the question...in fact he said, mein tumse pyaar nahi karta, KHUSH? What was the pt of the khush in the end? It just goes to show that Mohan does not think abt story book love, emotions etc...love, pyaar are just words for him. Furthermore, even his telling Kastur she was his responsibility was a standard response...it could be something he would say to a co-worker, an employee...An emotional equation with her was completely out of the picture...till now.

HC's portrayal of M's emotions since returning from Alibaug have started to show a shift in his thinking. Kastur's ability to take the reality of her marriage in such stride has him scratching his head in confusion, and yes to some degree, in guilt...he almost wishes that she would make a scene, question him so that he could reconcile in his mind that she is in fact difficult to deal with...I also do believe that some of the things he said to her while being inebriated are finally coming to the surface...Kastur's reverse psychology is doing a number on his psyche & as Sam said the question remains: how will he express & make her realize his feelings are valid & not just obligation...

Honestly, I think it will take him a long while to even admit 'I think I love you'..it will be total denial in the beginning, followed by very subtle gestures towards Kastur...otherwise, it won't be Mohan...


Edited by Nandalala - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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About sacha pyaar, to be honest I hate such pushing for declarations and such. It's annoying as hell. And I am a girl saying this. 😆 It's so dumb, if I were in that position as Kastur, next to him at the gathering, I would just roll my eyes. And if he dodged the question I wouldn't mind either (though obviously the way it happened on the show, it's different.)

As I said, ajeeb o ghareeb.😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nandalala

Mohan looked at the alliance with Kastur as a business deal...she was a means to several ends. Also, he thought of her as an uneducated doormat who would do as she was told, mind house & nothing else...She was someone he would have to put up with to get what he wants...there was no thought given to his obligations to her; in fact in his mind, he didn't have any obligations to her. To be honest, I was not surprised as to how he handled Kastur and her alliance..who are his role models? A father who can't think for himself: a hen-pecked son & husband, a chauvinistic, conservative🤬 for a grandfather, and a mother who deceived his grandfather by secretly sending her son abroad, and spews venom at the drop of a hat. But even with such characters in his life, he has been civil to Kastur, showing moments of caring & concern for her...




I disagree to the one in red ... yes he married her for all the wrong reasons but he never thought of her as someone he will put up with till he needs her and then throw her out, he accepted her as his wife, yes he may or may not have thought about what next at the tome he decided to marry her but he never planned to treat her like a piece of garbage either. He did not just say that you are my responsibility hence i take care of you, he also said you are my wife and i try as much as i can to keep you happy, i don't think he said it for the sake of it, it was quite sincere and if he tries to keep her happy then it means he does have obligation towards her, yes may not be at the level expected from a husband but obligation none the less
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Posted: 13 years ago
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^^ I agree with you there, soaps. Mohan did in a way accept her as his wife from the engagement onwards, maybe even a bit before the engagement. He always had the idea that he would treat her well. Though again, he accepted her as his wife but not all of what that means. And he treated her well, but not as he really should as a husband.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Also, Mohan kind of figured out that Kastur was no doormat or idiot that night he went to apologise and she gave it to him. I do believe he was truly, genuinely sorry. I thought he was somewhat sorry even before he had left her after the blasting. That's why he had stopped, but turned around and told her to remember his words.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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*touch wood* 🤣

Yea i agree after having blasted her when he turned around he did feel bad
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Soaps & Likarsh: The obligation part I was referring was at the time of marriage...His only obligation was to himself & the mess he was in...In fact, it didn't matter to him if it was Kastur or someone else he was marrying...the marriage was a formality to get him out of his mess & move forward...

Coming to the responsibility part, while perhaps sincere in its intent & the way HC emoted, I still maintain it was a standard response. What had he done thus far to keep her happy? Ok, he spoke to his mom but it only resulted in Saroj getting aggravated to the pt of destroying rangolis & telling Kastur off...the 'gajra' gift was happenstance, even the night out, while meaningful for Kastur, was only a fun, alcohol induced evening for him of which he doesn't remember much (this is what the CVs want us to believe; the way MG/HC portrayed it had me thinking otherwise to some extent.)

In both your responses to my post, you allude to his falling short of a typical husband. Thats the whole key to the whole conscience dilemma & why we are discussing it...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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His decision to marry her was in self interest only, i have never argued on that but once he took that decision, kastur was not a piece of garbage for him that he wanted to use and throw out of his life, he accepted her as his wife. He does feel some obligation to her else he won't go and ask his mother aisa kab tak chaley ga, the way saroj reacted or what she did afterwards we can't blame mohan for it, cause he did not do it to so that saroj destroys rangoli and makes a bigger mess, if you do something sincerely and it turns out bad can you really be blamed for it? And no he did not forget the night, if he had he won't say "i was sharing happiness with my wife" ... the fact he accepts her as his wife, wants to keep her happy shows he feels some obligation towards her. As for your question what has he done so far to keep her happy, well for every person the definition is different ... Mohan has been shown to be more practical, he is not someone who believes in going out of the way and doing things mean happiness ... just because he has not done things out of the way for her, does not mean he feels no obligation towards her either. And if he felt no obligation towards kastur, her behavior now won't surprise him either he will just be glad that its done with and won't care why she is acting the way she is. The fact that it does bother him also hints at him feeling some obligation for her, again i am not denying its not to the level of a husband but saying he feels none is wrong in my opinion, be it due to his guilt or whatever but its' there

Remember when kastur was not smiling, after their phone fight when she had gone to her parents? If he did not care why would he ask her why you are like this? So whilst not denying that while marrying her he did not think through many a thing, i think saying he feels no obligation towards her at all, would be a bit unfair.

And I was not arguing he falls short of what a husband is expected to be, i was only replying to where you said he feels no obligation whatsoever towards her that is the only part i disagreed with.
Edited by Soaps1 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I agree. The point abt the obligation was to show an evolution in Mohan's character. I should have clarified this in my original post. I too believe after the phag phera epi, there was a change to some extent in Mohan's attitude towards Kastur. He was realizing that she has his back and felt an obligation to reciprocate. The fact that he went and talked to his mom on Kastur's behalf was a big step. And of course he didn't know the aftermath would result in Saroj's wrath (although he did hear the conversation on the rooftop, but did not (wisely) interfere.)

Abt the night out, Kastur was an after thought. I had mentioned it before, I'll say it again. Mohan's policy on Kastur has been 'out of sight, out of mind.' If he wanted to take her out in the first place, he would have done so as promised earlier in the evening. He was drunk, she turned on the light, she looked beautiful, he was turned on by her...Plus, his behavior did not give her any option but to go out. Yeah, they shared some beautiful moments, but in the morning he gave no indication that those mattered cause he was inebriated. Yeah, he 'shared happiness' but on his terms & with seemingly little recall. So it may be his intention to keep her happy but so far in their marriage, there have been very few tangible instances.

In any case, doesn't matter what I think...Kastur creates her happy place with what little Mohan has shown & given her...'nuff said...😆
Edited by Nandalala - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Oho i did not mean he wanted to take her out ... i was just saying he did remember the night and did not forget ... i already said he tries to keep her happy where ever possible, he is not someone to create opportunities for it 😆 And i feel even before paag phera he had accepted her as his wife and felt obligation, realization of what he has gotten into however came after that only ... what it meant to be married started to strike only then.

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